Excellent move. I hope the French don't back out.
Hopefully we will see the M2000 in Taiwan until the late 2030s. But an assessment only finishing by 2026 could be late.
Taiwan Gives Up On F-35, Turns to F-16V Option - Their M-2000s are up for sale
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Excellent move. I hope the French don't back out.
Hopefully we will see the M2000 in Taiwan until the late 2030s. But an assessment only finishing by 2026 could be late.
French missed the trick by not designing an AESA radar for M-2000 MLU.
Wow! Such a thing never crossed my mind. But that move would seriously p** off the Chinese, lol. Will GOI & French gov. agree?
Maybe, we should upgrade our M-2000 with Uttam variant first. That most definitely will increase its air to air capabilities. That should allow Meteor/Astra 3 integration possible as well.
DRDO offered it for both Mig-29UPG and M2000UPG. Haven't heard much about it after that.
If we are planning to build 25-30 LCAs a year, then it would make more sense to replace it though. The AESA R&D effort will end up far more expensive than just buying more LCAs. Rather just stick the MICA NG on it once ready and pair it with the Rafale.
A 5-year supply will keep their inventories fresh until 2028. Enough time to decide whether to keep it going or replace it.
Why import Indian radar when Taiwan has a large number of APG-83s? Indian products are not only immature and technologically backward,And until now, there has been no large-scale equipment on active aircraft， Moreover, the Mirage 2000 itself will gradually retire when the F16V arrives in Taiwan. Now it's just about maintaining normal flight
The Indian radar is in reference to upgrading IAF Mirages, not Taiwan's. DRDO claims Uttam is superior to both the RBE-2 AESA and EL/M 2052. It's also the reason why the IAF has replaced 2052 with Uttam on LCA Mk1A. All Indian-designed jets will carry Uttam.
Possibly. But Taiwan is conducting a study on whether to retire the jet or upgrade some. They will know the result in 2026 for 9 two-seat jets.
Air Force to assess extending service life of Mirage fighter jets - Focus Taiwan
Taipei, July 31 (CNA) Taiwan wants to assess whether the service life of a number of its Mirage fighter jets can be extended for both strategic and risk-hedging reasons, the Air Force Command Headquarters said in a statement Monday.
IAF Mirages have 11500 hours of service life. That's 70 years. Taiwan's jets are only 25 years old. So any upgrade is a political decision, depending on France's support. Or they can sell it to India.
The Dassault goal was to avoid any shade on the Rafale. An AESA M2000 will be a threat to Rafale.
The French air force didn't have the money to fit an AESA on M2000 (there was a plan to install a RC400 radar on the upgraded M2000D : too costly....)
SO : no way.
I hope Macron will have the balls. Not sure....
Man! I speculated in my previous post that we should put Uttam in our Mirage-2000 jets and voila there are some reports(speculative!) that we are going to do so in future. IAF's love for M-2000 is well known. So it could be a definite possibility.
Do you have any sources to prove that the Mirage fighter has a lifespan of over 10000 hours? As far as I know, most of Taiwan's illusions are concentrated at the Jiashan base, waiting for retirement.
It seems that the fighter jets you mentioned are not yet in service. I remember India will use Israeli products on the MAK1A, but there is no exact time yet for whether and when Indian products will be in service.
If there were no serious espionage concerns, the Rafale was the obvious successor to the M2000. But any chance of that happening is only after China's invasion fails.
It's a huge problem if the French are setting roadblocks to even upgrading older jets. ICMS Mk4 and new weapons will be necessary to keep it relevant.
Uttam on M2000 with Meteor integration was on the wishlist of not just fanboys but the IAF too. But I guess it died after they decided Meteor integration on M2000 was unrealistic. LCA Mk1A seems to have killed this plan.
Old Mirage came with 5000-6000 hours, Taiwan's Mirages can manage 7500 hours. IAF's Mirages have doubled service life with a life extension of 5500 hours.
India operates Mirages in a semi-desert region while Taiwan operates in a marine environment, so they have different problems. Even if service life is high, Taiwan's Mirages need upgrades. They are already 26 years old.
So your assertion of Uttam being technologically backward is wrong, 'cause it will be used in future jets.
Israeli radar and EW suite will be replaced with Indian products from the third squadron onwards.
U remember Amardeep sharma from this or previous forum?
He said India will catch upto Israel in 4-5 years in electronics.
I guess we did it..
Test it against Mig 29. Because that is the minimal threat level which LCA will face. Both adversaries are operating 4.5 Gen fighters.
Uttam shall allow integration of Astra 2(maybe Astra 3 too in-future!). Astra 2 will have 200kms+ range in a high and fast launch which M-2000 is very much capable of. So, we should pursue it despite MK1A.
We caught up with Israel and the West as of two years ago. We are only pending operationalizing what we have developed. It will happen in another 1-2 years.
We have access to absolute best EW/electronics tech from Israel/France/Russia. Our EW/electronics was always going to be a cut above the rest(with the aforementioned experience and then some...
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