Thank you sir. Will definitely try to read some more on the subject including the one you suggested.
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Frankly, that boat sailed a long time ago. Kasuri during his book launch a few years ago in India claimed that Musharraf & Manmohan Singh agreed to a four point formula as a solution to the Kashmir issue in 2006 and then Musharraf lost office. 26/11 put paid to any such efforts fructifying. Besides, there was no confirmation of such a deal by the Indian side then or since. Post that book launch, Hussain Haqqani has gone on record last year in an interview to Shekhar Gupta of The Print quoting Kayani as asking Haqqani not to lay much stress on the Musharraf Manmohan pact dismissing it as something of a Musharraf only plan.
I don't think the Pakistani establishment or the armed forces have actually understood or estimated the anger among the ordinary Indian citizens of the toll the past 40 years of Pakistan sponsored terrorism has taken of the Indian state & it's people.
It's that anger which is driving the politicians to act and not a personal sense of grievance or outrage. Left to their own devices, our ordinary politician will do what he does best - mouth platitudes, make false promises, patronise his audience and make money.
Then there are certain politicians more specifically those belonging to a particular spectrum, who've tapped into this anger to fulfill other aims. It's also an article of faith with them - namely the destruction of the Pakistani state .
While Modi himself is too shrewd to fall into this trap, circumstances like Pulwama binds his hands. As we see more such Pakistan sponsored outrages, the space not to respond and to make such claims of extracting a heavy toll with such responses with credible evidence, shrinks. As does public tolerance for both the conditions in Kashmir and that of the state of Pakistan.
I personally think the time for talks has gone. Besides, what do we talk about? We aren't going to give up Kashmir & you aren't going to settle for anything less. Beginning now or for sometime since URI there's now a belief fast gaining traction within the establishment of re conquering PoJ&K ( so called Azad Kashmir & Northern Areas) . Two things come immediately to ones mind. First is the dire economic state of Pakistan. The second being the belief that we can't let China encircle us which is what the CPEC is seen as through the port in Gwadar and the base coming up at Ormara. I don't think either the US, their European allies, the Russians or even the Japanese and the South koreans will like this as this means energy security for the Chinese and freedom to prosecute it's claims in East Asia beginning with SCS followed by Taiwan and the rest.
The Afghanistan question looms in the background with the Americans poised to leave. The Taliban backed up as they are by the ISI, the PA and tanzeems like the LeT, JeM will do the heavy lifting as last time. This doesn't augur well for us in Kashmir. Then there's Iran and its concerns with similar tanzeems operating out of Pakistan on their soil apart from their concerns about the UAE - KSA - Pakistan nexus and the situation in Afghanistan.
We live in interesting times.
Please don't post anything without authentication. A lot of garbage out there.
Sir is how you address veterans like Falcon & vstol Jockey. They've earned it. Apart from @Guynextdoor who's older than your oldest uncle. Hence you use terms like uncle to address him. He doesn't deserve such honorifics but it's a reflection of your upbringing. I've no such accomplishments to my credit nor am I old enough to deserve honorifics.
Yeah Please lay off @The Deterrent
He is one of the very few sane and knowledgeable member of this forum. Counter points and arguments can be presented without personal attacks.
He is one of the very few sane and knowledgeable member of this forum. Counter points and arguments can be presented without personal attacks.
Stop Trolling in every Thread...
In case we do have a full blown war with Pakistan resulting in its dismemberment, I will want the Indian leadership to merge Sindh with India instead of making it an Independent nation. Hind is known Hind because of Sindh. We even have Sindh in our national anthem. If this happens, it will probably be the first ever instance wherein a Province will acquire a Nation and that too with third largest economy in terms of PPP and sixth largest in terms of USD. I am also of the opinion that creating an Independent Balochistan may not be good idea considering the threats from Iran and residual Punjabis of Pakistan. They should be given an opportunity to think and decide and if possible, made to agree to the original Accesion Agreement which was signed by Nawab of Kalat in 1947. This will ensure stability in This part of the world and also ensure a bright future for the Balochis.
I also want India to openly declare that it no more recognises the Durandline and the borders of Afghanistan should be redefined to an era before Durandline. This is the only way to ensure a very prosperous and stable South Asia and also create a very healthy cooperation between the member states of SAARC. India needs land borders with Central Asia. Dissolving Durandline and having a swap deal with Afghanistan for Wakhan corridor will give us that direct access to Central Asia and also completely cut out China from South Asia and Middle east which they are trying to do thru CPEC. Dissolving Durandline also will have an added benefit. The Punjabis of Pakistan will never be able to raise their head and will be forced to behave with all their neighbours in the best traditions of neighbours. This will ensure prosperity even for Pakistan Punjab. This will allow us to put to rest all disputes about river waters as India will need water down Indus for Sindh and will be required to maintain sufficient flow to feed the needs of Sindh.
I also want India to openly declare that it no more recognises the Durandline and the borders of Afghanistan should be redefined to an era before Durandline. This is the only way to ensure a very prosperous and stable South Asia and also create a very healthy cooperation between the member states of SAARC. India needs land borders with Central Asia. Dissolving Durandline and having a swap deal with Afghanistan for Wakhan corridor will give us that direct access to Central Asia and also completely cut out China from South Asia and Middle east which they are trying to do thru CPEC. Dissolving Durandline also will have an added benefit. The Punjabis of Pakistan will never be able to raise their head and will be forced to behave with all their neighbours in the best traditions of neighbours. This will ensure prosperity even for Pakistan Punjab. This will allow us to put to rest all disputes about river waters as India will need water down Indus for Sindh and will be required to maintain sufficient flow to feed the needs of Sindh.
Voices within India are saying New Delhi has 'lost Kashmir', says Shah Mahmood Qureshi - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Just a little respite and they are back to old tricks!
Just a little respite and they are back to old tricks!
Do you know why so many drones in that area? They are shit scared of our formations in that area. But what they have forgotten is that CSD has already been operationalised. We can go into offensive within six hours and cross the border and dismember them. The nuke bluff and the hoax of Nasr has been completely demolished by a indian called Ajit Doval. Let me see how Pakistan will now deal with an India which will strike Pakistan at will at a place of its choosing and at a time of its choosing? The threat is now on Pakistan. This is what we call taking battle to the heart of the enemy. For them Kashmir was their Jugular vein. we have created many such veins for them now.
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This was 2nd Drone to be shot down today. Two drones in a day! Pakistan army is in real panic situation.
The penetration warheads of this system used not only for hardened bunkers. A penetration of A soft roof top to place the warhead right in the midst of the people you’re targeting is highly desirable since it ensures a high kill ratio. Spice does not depend on incineraton or structural damage for killing targets as much as setting off a high pressure blast wave that erases all soft targets. This is best achieved when the warhead is pushed through the roof into the midst of the people you want to kill. Lighter warhead, more killed even if structural damage is lesser.
I also thought India had done only a symbolic attack until I heard the audio in this news report
Jaish-e-Mohammed admits Indian attack on Balakot, urges Pakistanis to join Kashmir jihad
They should calm down... We are not going to attack them.. They should read falcon posts
Imran is asking help from every tom dik and harry, drones falling from sky. There is definitely more tension between both countries then we are aware.
Iranian President, PM Khan agree on closer cooperation in combatting terrorism - World - DAWN.COM
Iranian President, PM Khan agree on closer cooperation in combatting terrorism - World - DAWN.COM
That was only for prototypes. The production model carries an indigenous Ka band seeker.
Yes they must read @Falcon post which says that Strike formations have not moved as we don't need to move them. Pivot corps with IBGs are enough to do the job. The area south of Multan can only be defended by either the Karachi corp or the support of Quetta Corp or the Army reserve South. They have moved Quatta corps already. We now want them to commit Army reserve South. If they do its fine and if they do not, Its even better for us. CSD gives no options to Pakistan. We only have all the options.They should calm down... We are not going to attack them.. They should read falcon posts
Pakistan is seeing significant inflationary pressures even with cheap oil and very low GDP growth while their population growth is booming. So their economy is slowly tanking and we should do our best to help it along.
There should be no doubt about the nature of the intended targets. What ACM Dhanoa also said is the number of casualties can only be given by the govt. He wouldn't be referring to casualties if there weren't any.
Personally, I do not see any need for the Indian govt to do strikes that deliberately miss their targets. Otherwise we would never have called it "pre-emptive strikes".
IAF takes on detractors, submits proof of Balakot air strike
The IAF, in fact, submitted a dossier to the government yesterday as proof that 80% of the bombs deployed during the airstrike hit their intended targets. The dossier contained 12 pages of high-resolution satellite images and SAR imagery collected from an intelligence aircraft platform flying in Indian airspace, sources told India Today TV.
Apparently, it is not enough to hear Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa clearly state that " We [IAF] don't count human casualties, we count what targets we have hit or not". At the press conference on Monday he had added, "If we plan to hit the target, we hit the target, otherwise why would he [Pakistan PM] have responded, if we dropped bombs in the jungles why would he respond?"
Likely thermobaric bombs.
Thermobaric bombs require penetration if targets are inside a building. Any building.
Hopefully this happens. And I don't think India is going to accept anything less than 100% reduction. A future attack will simply see a repeat of the current situation.
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