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Growler class capabilities are necessary when air superiority has been achieved, and the enemy is being bombed to oblivion. That means even stealth jets are flying around in beast mode and need EW-based protection from intermittent SAM threats.
That source claiming both are needed is basically pointing out the F-35 is not ready yet.
In any case, we need to go by the belief that China is beating the war drums confident in their ability to take on the US in the air. Because of our investment in SAMs, I'd say we will at least be able to perform air defence and CAS missions, so at least the IA won't be abandoned like last time.
Funny thing about artillery shells. It's why we need ATHOS and M777, it opens up American and Israeli dumps for more ammo, ie, when most of our local production would have been destroyed in a long war.
Why can't we do the same to China? Our conventional offensive arm with Shuarya/Pralay/Su-30MKI with Brahmos-A/Rafale with Scalp-EG is very potent too. With all of these, we can hit China very deep and destroy their war logistics too.
Interesting comments about sensitive tech & China's dominance in some sectors. As far as SCs go they're focusing on the lower end of tys market which'd make things more difficult for us. Plenty more stuff there.
Never judge a book by its cover: China has stolen US military secrets to create formidable J-20 knockoff of America's F-22 Raptor: expertsEurasian times
Happy now as the source is "Western" and not Eurasian
Take a lot of salt with all these nice pictures.
Once more when you detect something with your IRST you are far from taking a decision to launch a weapon. You firstly have to identify it and then you need to come much closer to it. And alone you can't know if your detection is a rafale flying at 900 km/h at 100 km from you or a small bird flying at 9km/h at 1 km from you.
Once again If every one is passive the smallest has to most chance to identify the other at first and then to take a fire decision.
Who cares whether they copied it or not, they now have it.
IRST won't be able to calculate distance. But if a group of fighters try to triangulate the target then even tracking and missile firing is possible.
Depends upon speed and the material of the plane too. It's not that simple.
The point is even the Americans are now acknowledging the presence of a near peer VLO rival. It actually proves what you're saying was correct.
According to a recent report India has over 14000 Brahmos. It could be a fake report, but even then we should not underestimate our firepower.
If China tries to attack our airbases, defence infrastructure, energy sectors, then India will give them a befitting reply. India is a military superpower, not a joke. A reminder to everyone.
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In our last discussion, you said that EA is not required to support VLO during breaking the enemy's door and Growlers would take a back seat to Lightning 2s during the first days of war.
Apparently, US considers dominating EW spectrum compulsory now to win the war(against China) and block-4 F-35s will have much better(GaN based??!!) EW suite. Also, as per Gen. Mark Kelly:
Link: New Electronic Warfare Suite Top Feature Of F-35 Block 4, Air Combat Boss Says
So as per Gen. Kelly, E-7 and EC-37 will play as vital role "alongside" block 4 F-35s in US future operations. So, apparently F-35 needs EW/EA escort too. What say?
Bear in mind that: The EC-37B is a next-generation, tactical jamming platform tasked with disruption of enemy C3, radar, and navigation. It will also offer offensive. counterinformation, EA, and SEAD support. So, they think only stealth alone won't do the job of SEAD/DEAD against a peer rival.
In our last discussion, you said that EA is not required to support VLO during breaking the enemy's door and Growlers would take a back seat to Lightning 2s during the first days of war.
Apparently, US considers dominating EW spectrum compulsory now to win the war(against China) and block-4 F-35s will have much better(GaN based??!!) EW suite. Also, as per Gen. Mark Kelly:
Link: New Electronic Warfare Suite Top Feature Of F-35 Block 4, Air Combat Boss Says
So as per Gen. Kelly, E-7 and EC-37 will play as vital role "alongside" block 4 F-35s in US future operations. So, apparently F-35 needs EW/EA escort too. What say?
Bear in mind that: The EC-37B is a next-generation, tactical jamming platform tasked with disruption of enemy C3, radar, and navigation. It will also offer offensive. counterinformation, EA, and SEAD support. So, they think only stealth alone won't do the job of SEAD/DEAD against a peer rival.
Yes that's the problem.
If only all the group have find the same target ... If and only if,yes I agree.
For speed yes you can use algorythm to differentiate some targets. But when you are alone (or when you are the first to find an indiferentiate blur) once again a plane flying at 900 km/h at 100 km from you fly at the same speed than a bird flying at 9km/h at 1 km from you. The only thing that you can easily have is an angular speed.
ANd sorry emmission of corps temperature is determine by the law of the black corps not by materials. ANd to see this temperature you just have to look at contrasts. If your plane is more hot than the backround sky then you are a potential target not more not less.
Stealth planes try to hide their temperature with fuel but in fact they only disseminate it in all the plane. Or you evacuate all this heat or you keep it but then you are like a flare in the sky.
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Aircraft like the J-20, F-22 can receive information from outside sources, but they are designed to use their own radar and EW suites to dominate the airspace.
Compass Call is basically the USAF's Growler, one of its main roles is to kill communication, fake or kill IFF signals and so on. It's not gonna be used to attack the J-20's X band radar, that's just suicide.
And when they talk about controlling the EMS, they are referring to communications.
In fact there are so many doubts about this aircraft that it's still unfunded beyond an initial 6. So teh USAF and ODS are still not convinced by this aircraft.
No buddy, it definitely depends on materials. Older stealth planes had ferrite or graphite based RAM which became incredibly hot.
But, planes like F-35/J-20/Su-57 use Carbon-Nanotype based fiber-mat RAM and RAS. Their heat properties are much different from older 'ferrite' based paint and even good ol' carbon composites.
You need QWIP based IRST because MCT based one can't see in Far InfraRed. You need a sensor that can look in wavelengths beyond 15 microns to really catch these fighters. If you have it, then all are going to get caught if they are cruising at above 500kmph from above even100+kms away. They just can't hide.
Good. The moment they emit, modern interferometer based ESM will know about their presence and their VLO goes bust.
You said that Growlers were not necessary for day 1 enemy penetration. But here USAF top general calls their own 'Growler Version' EC-37 as an important war tool 'along side' F-35, against peer enemy.
So it means that EA/EW is still considered utmost important(in fact the article says most important, even more so than VLO!) as per USAF. That was my point. Now whether it's jamming C3I or just doing brute noise jamming depends upon its mission as it can do both.
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Brahmos is expensive. We need an iskander clone. Also we need to produce around 10000 pralays and around 40000 prahaars if we want to fight a sustained 2 front war for a month.
Not to forget nirbhay's.
Understanding and quantifying the characteristics of the light emitted by a heated body thus seemed to be at the intersection of many important problems in physics and technology. It was well known that the colour of a body changed from red to white as its temperature increased. It was also known that it emitted more light, but what were the precise numerical formulae to account for these phenomena?
Kirchhoff was the first to find these laws. He discovered that there was a series of universal laws that were valid for all bodies, whatever their composition and state, whether gas or solid. These laws were easier to demonstrate if one considered the light emitted by a black body.
This curve is universel whatever the material. 6000 k is the sun temperature.
As you can see in this commercial test these two commercial detectors are sensible in the far infrared :
Read this to understand what is really important in an imaging sensor (and by extensions why QWIP sensor are so good) :