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Yes.. only help being that these RVV-AE would be newer, and not be near the end of their shelf life.. hence less prone to not being able to provide a targeting solution due to malfunction

Potential dumb question - is the solution generated by the radar or the missile? I thought the missile radar only kicked in the terminal homing phase.
 
Do you know why we need to win the propaganda war? Because we have Khujli, RaGa and @BlackOpsIndia including @Guynextdoor. The motivation of people is very important when you go to war or prepare for war. Pakistan Army thinks that they can call for Jihaad against India and every muslim of Pakistn will run to our borders with whatever weapon they have. Please read the judgement passed by Pakistan Supreme Court which says that Jihaad call can only be made by the government of the day.
Now Imagine, these idiots are still living in the days of Jihaad when Sindhis and Pushtuns and Balochies want separate homeland. Their Jihaad failed in Bangladesh as the Jihaadis ended up raping the muslim women.
The Jihaad will be in Pakistan, but against Punjabi population and against Punjabi Army. trust me, this time Pak punjab will ask for asylum in India and their people will also convert to Hinduism willingly and also state their original Gotra. These third rate converts needed our help in history and will need always.

You should be more respectful of kejriwal. He will be pm some day.
 
Just going around the circles, first to stop terrorism in order to start talking. Or you do not have the capability to stop terrorism then, these things will keep happening.
Sir, please tell me why people of pakistan AKA terrorists are attacking civilians and security forces in J&K? Who is helping them to cross the border? Either your army is rough and don’t listen to the government or you are only pretending. You are saying your country doesn’t want anyone to die in J&K. for achieving that goal tell your army to stop supporting terrorists. Hand over hafiz saeed , azhar , salauddin and others that you give protection in pakistan and you will have your talks! Do it or stop ranting that your country wants peace!!!

kashmir shares border with both pakistan and india.we can't stop everyone.it's too hard.we can lower the number of infiltration but can't make it zero because it's impossible.kindly look at the terrain.
 
Sir, please tell me why people of pakistan AKA terrorists are attacking civilians and security forces in J&K? Who is helping them to cross the border? Either your army is rough and don’t listen to the government or you are only pretending. You are saying your country doesn’t want anyone to die in J&K. for achieving that goal tell your army to stop supporting terrorists. Hand over hafiz saeed , azhar , salauddin and others that you give protection in pakistan and you will have your talks! Do it or stop ranting that your country wants peace!!!

sir people of pakistan aren't terrorists.they are proxy games.you are playing your game.we are playing our game.both armies can solve every problem by dialogues.there is no proof in pakistani courts related to hafiz saeed and masood azhar.india wanted to match hafiz voice with their own proof which pakistan denied.pakistan asked india to handover proof but india didn't respond.case not progressing anymore.how can we put them in jail if there is no proof? even before balakot,there was jem video warning india that they will attack but videos aren't proof.you have to capture the entire gang.in pakistan,we don't have anything to put them in jail.their schools or madrassas are filled with children but there is no evidence of any kind of jehadi education.you invited isi to pathankot.you hand over something and they denied that our people are involved.problem with india is simple.if you have credible proof,share it with us.why we will not react if there is credible proof? we will react.we are also facing same problems as yours.
 
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sir people of pakistan aren't terrorists.they are proxy games.you are playing your game.we are playing our game.both armies can solve every problem by dialogues.there is no proof in pakistani courts related to hafiz saeed and masood azhar.india wanted to match hafiz voice with their own proof which pakistan denied.pakistan asked india to handover proof but india didn't respond.case not progressing anymore.how can we put them in jail if there is no proof? even before balakot,there was jem video warning india that they will attack but videos aren't proof.you have to capture the entire gang.in pakistan,we don't have anything to put them in jail.their schools or madrassas are filled with children but there is no evidence of any kind of jehadi education.
https://fas.org/irp/eprint/mumbai.pdf

Now go play elsewhere with your blind propoganda.
 
https://fas.org/irp/eprint/mumbai.pdf

Now go play elsewhere with your blind propoganda.

i don't have time to read this big document but if you have credible proof,present it.you share nothing.it's not our mistake. yes they are UN designated terrorists but court wants proof.you said you have transmission intercepts.where is your transmission intercepts? give it to us and wait for results.how can we react if there is nothing!
 
i don't have time to read this big document but if you have credible proof,present it.you share nothing.it's not our mistake. yes they are UN designated terrorists but court wants proof.you said you have transmission intercepts.where is your transmission intercepts? give it to us and wait for results.how can we react if there is nothing!
The memo I gave you was shared with 18 countries in the third week of December including the UN. Matter of fact its better and more updated physical memo is still present in the UN archive library in NewYork at least until 2015 when last got a chance to check it out. Every country who had a look at this memo accused Pakistan of sponsoring non-state actors. So please stop your innocent BS about 26/11 and buzz off.
 
sir people of pakistan aren't terrorists.they are proxy games.you are playing your game.we are playing our game.both armies can solve every problem by dialogues.there is no proof in pakistani courts related to hafiz saeed and masood azhar.india wanted to match hafiz voice with their own proof which pakistan denied.pakistan asked india to handover proof but india didn't respond.case not progressing anymore.how can we put them in jail if there is no proof? even before balakot,there was jem video warning india that they will attack but videos aren't proof.you have to capture the entire gang.in pakistan,we don't have anything to put them in jail.their schools or madrassas are filled with children but there is no evidence of any kind of jehadi education.you invited isi to pathankot.you hand over something and they denied that our people are involved.problem with india is simple.if you have credible proof,share it with us.why we will not react if there is credible proof? we will react.we are also facing same problems as yours.


JEM claimed pulwama!! Masood azhar is a head of JEM! So he is responsible! hafiz and masood azhar both are UN designated terrorists. He was released in IC 814 hijack! Tell me what actions you took against UN designated terrorists? They are still roaming free! If you have guts then fight war openly why use non state actors?
 
i don't have time to read this big document but if you have credible proof,present it.you share nothing.it's not our mistake. yes they are UN designated terrorists but court wants proof.you said you have transmission intercepts.where is your transmission intercepts? give it to us and wait for results.how can we react if there is nothing!
Of course you are right , what can we expect from a country which mollycoddles terrorist like TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan who was part of terrorist group which massacred innocent school children.

Its not evidence that pakistan needs but a little bit of shame. What a pity the deep state cannot even wash away the blood stain of its own innocent children.
 
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i don't have time to read this big document but if you have credible proof,present it.you share nothing.it's not our mistake. yes they are UN designated terrorists but court wants proof.you said you have transmission intercepts.where is your transmission intercepts? give it to us and wait for results.how can we react if there is nothing!

Hi Arsalan, Salam wale kum :)
Ive been seeing your posts over some time and have also seen your exchanges today, something id like to point out, Pakistani civilians
like you said are not the bad guys but would you care to see the hospitality you've been offered here ?

A forum predominantly Indian, where mods step in and remind others to be civil while talking to you, a place
where your freedom of speech is respected and encouraged, a platform that allows you to question our soldiers, with
a few emotionally charged patriots and many level headed folk ...

With all that in place, wouldn't it be a little courteous of you to read something offered as proof to our reasoning and not dismiss it ?
Dont be like our bigots, or your idiots ? Acknowledge the respect we give you as that document is stained with the blood of
our men and women, make some time for it or drop the argument as you'll prove you're not worth it.
 
This is also the first time in forever that they flew back to drop ordinance at a VIP post
The first time they said well send back more missiles for each you fire
The first when they also came out justified the use of a jet that the us gave them NOT to be used against us

A lot of firsts youve missed, im all in to celebrate our role/flexing for de escalation but its not because were killing crows at some hacks whims, our diplomatic channels
international pressure and well aligned strategies have played in too

Our loses have made us questionable too ? friendly fire aging fleets ? You think they dont have a baba at their end peddling the death of our men everyday as well ? I wont buy that, nor this. sorry sir, India first, but not blind

Stop arguing with fanboys.

In Army they trust. No question ask.

The whole argument is, Indian Army could not be sitting idle, thus must be inflicting very high damage to Pakistan. Baba verified.

Just note, couldas, shouldas and musts in their posts.
 
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kashmir shares border with both pakistan and india.we can't stop everyone.it's too hard.we can lower the number of infiltration but can't make it zero because it's impossible.kindly look at the terrain.

How many armed infiltrators your security forces have killed while trying infiltrating into India? Or even arrested?

Assuming Pak forces heavily guard borders with India.
 
Stop arguing with fanboys.

In Army they trust. No question ask.

The whole argument is, Indian Army could not be sitting idle, thus must be inflicting very high damage to Pakistan. Baba verified.

Just note, couldas, shouldas and musts in their posts.

Stop arguing ? Thought the forum allowed debate ?
As a moderator are you advising me or telling me not to ?

The whole "argument" does not justify imaginary facts made up by a nobody who has time and again failed as well.
IF baba was a source of verification, there would be more done to china than pak at this point.

Yes high dmg indeed, thats increased the amount of CFVs to +300 in 3 months and given us
more personnel deaths, sure.

”I wonder whether those of our political masters who have been put in charge of the defence of the country can distinguish a mortar from a motor; a gun from a howitzer; a guerrilla from a gorilla, although a great many resemble the latter.”- Manekshaw said this for a reason and he is what the Indian army honors.

Unfortunately for most people the idea of "service before self" comes with the drums of war, where as the tri forces play other
silent roles as well, we dont need to keep our guns roaring when we use the MI for more fruitful things.
Please understand, it takes gaps of time to find a weakness in the enemy to hammer in, we arent weak because we are silent, we are feared for our silence
 
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Stop arguing ? Thought the forum allowed debate ?
As a moderator are you advising me or telling me not to ?

Yes, you are right. Debate is very much different to argue, specially when other is coming up with his assumptions out of confirmation bias.

And I am advising only, after wasted a lot of time myself.

The whole "argument" does not justify imaginary facts made up by a nobody who has time and again failed as well.
IF baba was a source of verification, there would be more done to china than pak at this point.

You missed the sarcasm there. :)

Yes high dmg indeed, thats increased the amount of CFVs to +300 in 3 months and given us
more personnel deaths, sure.

”I wonder whether those of our political masters who have been put in charge of the defence of the country can distinguish a mortar from a motor; a gun from a howitzer; a guerrilla from a gorilla, although a great many resemble the latter.”- Manekshaw said this for a reason and he is what the Indian army honors.

Unfortunately for most people the idea of "service before self" comes with the drums of war, where as the tri forces play other
silent roles as well, we dont need to keep our guns roaring when we use the MI for more fruitful things.
Please understand, it takes gaps of time to find a weakness in the enemy to hammer in, we arent weak because we are silent, we are feared for our silence

I have been very intuitive about this whole episode and have been questioning the veracity of claims and counter claims. For me, there was much more left which should have been done post Feb 27, if at all we have chosen to do what we claim on Feb 26. My whole contention is about not meeting the military goals but just the political ones.

Please understand, it takes gaps of time to find a weakness in the enemy to hammer in, we arent weak because we are silent, we are feared for our silence

Exactly but this leverage we lost due to some loud mouths or the eager ones who want to prove their chest sizes.
 
Yes, you are right. Debate is very much different to argue, specially when other is coming up with his assumptions out of confirmation bias.

And I am advising only, after wasted a lot of time myself.



You missed the sarcasm there. :)



I have been very intuitive about this whole episode and have been questioning the veracity of claims and counter claims. For me, there was much more left which should have been done post Feb 27, if at all we have chosen to do what we claim on Feb 26. My whole contention is about not meeting the military goals but just the political ones.



Exactly but this leverage we lost due to some loud mouths or the eager ones who want to prove their chest sizes.

Im sorry i misunderstood the sarcasm, appreciate the advise, ill keep that in mind !!
thought i was being asked to zip my bunker busters :p
 
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