Just going around the circles, first to stop terrorism in order to start talking. Or you do not have the capability to stop terrorism then, these things will keep happening.
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Just going around the circles, first to stop terrorism in order to start talking. Or you do not have the capability to stop terrorism then, these things will keep happening.
Sir, please tell me why people of pakistan AKA terrorists are attacking civilians and security forces in J&K? Who is helping them to cross the border? Either your army is rough and don’t listen to the government or you are only pretending. You are saying your country doesn’t want anyone to die in J&K. for achieving that goal tell your army to stop supporting terrorists. Hand over hafiz saeed , azhar , salauddin and others that you give protection in pakistan and you will have your talks! Do it or stop ranting that your country wants peace!!!
Pakistan's Action Against Terror Groups Post Pulwama Attack Still Reversible, Says US
Terrorist organisations such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad will continue to pose a grave risk to international peace as long as they are able to operate freely in Pakistan, US said.
Pakistan's Action Against Terror Groups Post Pulwama Attack Still Reversible, Says US
Terrorist organisations such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad will continue to pose a grave risk to international peace as long as they are able to operate freely in Pakistan, US said.
Pakistan's Action Against Terror Groups Post Pulwama Attack Still Reversible, Says US
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Now i have seen the posts of you on the topic of Baba's twitter account...... You need to understand the purpose of such a handle (we believe it has a purpose), Check the time lines of that handle it will give you some clues..... Do not makee mistake of what our neighbors do, Ie, Taking Gafoora as the "Gospel of truth"....... He is playing a role..... As a defence enthusiasts, You have to check the sources available and start collating information, you may get the truth....There are cases he was right, and there are cases he wanted to convey a message...... So one need to understand this....
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Balakot has changed the Indo Pak equation forever!!!!!!!
We hesitated to use IAF beyond LOC even during Kargil.... Oh yeah we had PA sitting inside india and attacking our forces who were trying to recapture the heights...... We were not really a nuclear states then, probably the delivery platforms were not that matured as we have it today.....
We were worried about our diplomatic victory during kargil..... While it costed us soldiers, but it did gave us the stature of a matured nuclear power...... This was needed then, as our economy or our allies were not that strong....
Today the scenario is totally different..... To add all those, We also have a leader who do not hesitate to take tough calls........
The equation has changed!!!!!!!
We are tolerant to every ideas which has substance and add quality of discussion, but there is a natural intolerance towards BS
Now i have seen the posts of you on the topic of Baba's twitter account...... You need to understand the purpose of such a handle (we believe it has a purpose), Check the time lines of that handle it will give you some clues..... Do not makee mistake of what our neighbors do, Ie, Taking Gafoora as the "Gospel of truth"....... He is playing a role..... As a defence enthusiasts, You have to check the sources available and start collating information, you may get the truth....There are cases he was right, and there are cases he wanted to convey a message...... So one need to understand this....
I agree with EVERYTHING you said but here, id like to ask you when there is intolerance towards bullshit and rightly so, why is his "purpose" not called out, him being right vs wrong isnt weighable, right was based of news, wrong each time he claimed something
The "purpose" of the handle would have it being larger than life in terms of social authority, the account sat online for a few years and promoted
delhi govts in his past tweets and when the pakistani's shared his past tweets and adolescent images, it went offline said "boss" audited the account and it became the new spokesperson of the indian army, our babus and handler are no where close to that level of incompetence
Mistakes like over balakot amongst others like Tarbela are beyond psyops, his research on some forum went wrong, he got over confident.
He thrives in conflict periods claiming kills, yet we see dead bodies on our borders, and no pakistan isnt able to hide all of it because they are putting out their "civilian" deaths to claim islamic support, recent news articles have proved their agenda on that.
A nation crushed to its core by our loved black sheep shouldnt even have the will to talk back to us, at this point they snub our PM nagging airspace and let terrorists live after 5 more of our valiant die, the "purpose" is blinding us.
Also, not arguing with you, like i said respect your comments, find you sane enough to talk to about my views, hence the talk
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Not possible, there would be a home uplink that would break through jamming, that plane would drop faster than a rock
they'd shoot it down, the AD's would hunt it for all the gems it would have on board, crossing a border with all the tech on alert the day after balakot with a A50 (larger turn radius sluggish plane) E145 (fl24 data showed it hover within our regions) not happening
Our systems have an effective minimum detection of 400km, dont need to enter their airspace, ghar bhet ke jhingalala even in bad weather
grabbing their data hugging the borders YES YES YES
It's what he said. I have no clue what they were doing there though.
I agree with EVERYTHING you said but here, id like to ask you when there is intolerance towards bullshit and rightly so, why is his "purpose" not called out, him being right vs wrong isnt weighable, right was based of news, wrong each time he claimed something
The "purpose" of the handle would have it being larger than life in terms of social authority, the account sat online for a few years and promoted
delhi govts in his past tweets and when the pakistani's shared his past tweets and adolescent images, it went offline said "boss" audited the account and it became the new spokesperson of the indian army, our babus and handler are no where close to that level of incompetence
Mistakes like over balakot amongst others like Tarbela are beyond psyops, his research on some forum went wrong, he got over confident.
He thrives in conflict periods claiming kills, yet we see dead bodies on our borders, and no pakistan isnt able to hide all of it because they are putting out their "civilian" deaths to claim islamic support, recent news articles have proved their agenda on that.
A nation crushed to its core by our loved black sheep shouldnt even have the will to talk back to us, at this point they snub our PM nagging airspace and let terrorists live after 5 more of our valiant die, the "purpose" is blinding us.
Also, not arguing with you, like i said respect your comments, find you sane enough to talk to about my views, hence the talk
How long you have been following India Pakistan conflict
This is the First time in 20 years , ever since
I have been following Pakistan ie since Kargil , that they have been so humble and desperate for Peace
Do you Really think that loosing 300 Terrorists and One F 16 will make them So KEEN for peace
Or is it that the Losses suffered by them are Really Hurting them
Rouge States Like Pakistan do not change
Character overnight
Earlier they used to show the Finger to the US , regarding Taliban and Afghanistan
When US put them on FATF and denied Soft loans from IMF , they are Actively supporting peace talks between US and Taliban
People can say anything about Baba
But I am only looking at Pakistan' s desperation for de escalation
This is also the first time in forever that they flew back to drop ordinance at a VIP post
The first time they said well send back more missiles for each you fire
The first when they also came out justified the use of a jet that the us gave them NOT to be used against us
A lot of firsts youve missed, im all in to celebrate our role/flexing for de escalation but its not because were killing crows at some hacks whims, our diplomatic channels
international pressure and well aligned strategies have played in too
Our loses have made us questionable too ? friendly fire aging fleets ? You think they dont have a baba at their end peddling the death of our men everyday as well ? I wont buy that, nor this. sorry sir, India first, but not blind
I agree with EVERYTHING you said but here, id like to ask you when there is intolerance towards bullshit and rightly so, why is his "purpose" not called out, him being right vs wrong isnt weighable, right was based of news, wrong each time he claimed something
The "purpose" of the handle would have it being larger than life in terms of social authority, the account sat online for a few years and promoted
delhi govts in his past tweets and when the pakistani's shared his past tweets and adolescent images, it went offline said "boss" audited the account and it became the new spokesperson of the indian army, our babus and handler are no where close to that level of incompetence
Mistakes like over balakot amongst others like Tarbela are beyond psyops, his research on some forum went wrong, he got over confident.
He thrives in conflict periods claiming kills, yet we see dead bodies on our borders, and no pakistan isnt able to hide all of it because they are putting out their "civilian" deaths to claim islamic support, recent news articles have proved their agenda on that.
A nation crushed to its core by our loved black sheep shouldnt even have the will to talk back to us, at this point they snub our PM nagging airspace and let terrorists live after 5 more of our valiant die, the "purpose" is blinding us.
Also, not arguing with you, like i said respect your comments, find you sane enough to talk to about my views, hence the talk
Have you Followed Pakistani statements and Behaviour Post 2016 Surgical strikes
For two years till Pulwama There were Regular Firefights on LOC But Pakistan was Firmly Supporting the Kashmir Separatist movement in Every International Forum
Last Two Months , I have Not heard a WORD
About Kashmir
So what this means is that their Motivation for Kashmir has gone down Because of their Own Losses
These Days Bajwa saya one thing
We have Countered Indian aggression
While Qureshi and Imran talk of peace
When it comes to India , Pakistan talks of peace Only after Material and Human loss
Not due to diplomatic pressure
did you hear the DGISPR press release post 45 days ? HE SAID WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT KASHMIR
also the LOC has reported OVER 400 CFV already ?
are we not watching the same news?
5 MEN KILLED YESTERDAY claimed by Pak based groups, nothing has gone down
official data shows that, this is what im saying !!
Pakistanis are Celebrating their Victory because they dont get any Information from their Govt
They think that after Feb 27 , NOTHING happened at all
They are Wrong
Infact I have not even seen any Bluster about Nukes for 2 months now
Of course 5 soldiers died
That will also be Avenged
At least the Policy is in place , it is a matter
Of Timing and Execution
Yeah Nukes, we totally hit them with cruise missiles that left "ink blotches" on a map
Cruise missiles can be intercepted, thats why they own SAMs and AD's
Its the same reason why WE ARE PUSHING FOR s400s right now, to push back on the nuke threat
Also youre missing a LOT of the data cause youre avoiding it, each time gaffe-oor speaks, hes says nukes for deterrence
his repetition is clear indication
Then the CIA asset spying on their nukes is commissioned to death ? because he leaked info - "no nukes" ?
add this up please ?
Our army chief has also stopped threatening Pakistan. There's more to the whole thing than meets the eye. A possibility is that both sides have decided to not publicize actions, if any. @vstol Jockey had also said this.
Vinayak is EX MI, there is a reason he uses possible accident and explains it further, this is not consistent with cruise missile damage
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