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You hit the nail on the head there sir


Chinese Awacs, Saab and now the PN101 ALL were airborne, its no secret PAF has more AWACS than us, add the ground and radar assets
they cant have lasted a minute ! They were monitoring way more, from the second balakot materialized they had assets up reading callsign data for their strike back, guaranteed, said it 10 times they had the VA's CS signature confirmed for the 27th strike they came in for.

They were monitoring for a long while after too each day and night, pak handles kept showing data of assets

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Infact after they caught abhi if you remember he was trying to dispose papers ? those were exfil and cs charts a top intel priority for us
As a part of our RTI training abhi was proabably taught to slowly drop info not lie, stuff like yes im a pilot with IAF, we have jets etc etc allowing us to reassemble all our assets and data cause every min he would exchange some to live longer.
they would then use that to configure their intel searches up there
How are you sure that PA knew that LT GEN was there at the brigade headquarters...@adgpi tweeted on 28 th that Ranbir Singh had visited the post.. Gafoora might as well just have picked from twitter...
 
How are you sure that PA knew that LT GEN was there at the brigade headquarters...@adgpi tweeted on 28 th that Ranbir Singh had visited the post.. Gafoora might as well just have picked from twitter...

Well lets go backwards on this ?
26th we give them hell , they plan all day, they "possibly" have a guy on ground in our territory, maybe honey trapped in the ranks ? ?
Info is leaked VA expected, they also, just like us have listening posts, they study call signs all day 24*7*365, our "peace time lapse" might have led to a repeat on CS
additionally, inter agency communication would be discussing the arrival of the VA as well, they are all alerted right cause he could inspect anywhere so a comms intercept, just like how we said we have one of the downed F16
We also kept quiet for a LONG time on this denied all of it, till the print broke it. ergo the sanitisation, cleaning the house.
 
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Those radars are specially designed to avoid jamming but let's say our EW aircraft was able to jam it, how many it could have jammed/confused? There are ground stations, Air defence units, AWACS and other fighter jets (as per ISPR whole PAF was airborne) all doing one single job to track the enemy assets in air. How many of them could single EW have jammed or evaded?

It's not like Pakistan is too big a country that flying over Islamabad or Peshawar is too far from Indian border and out of range. They were monitoring and observing our flying pattern so deep that in a small window they could find little weakness they executed strike. Mig was too quick to surprise them but some EW Aircraft staying in Pakistani airspace with so high alert is nothing short of miracle.

These things are not guaranteed, it's always fluid and dynamic. And the number of targets jammed, number of frequencies jammed etc are all secrets.

And it's not easy to find weaknesses in our defences, especially over the Himalayas, with so many hiding spots. That's also how our Mig-21s were undetected until it was too late. The same thing is extremely difficult over plains.
 
These things are not guaranteed, it's always fluid and dynamic. And the number of targets jammed, number of frequencies jammed etc are all secrets.

And it's not easy to find weaknesses in our defences, especially over the Himalayas, with so many hiding spots. That's also how our Mig-21s were undetected until it was too late. The same thing is extremely difficult over plains.

This is an argument that was thrown by the US about the F16 radar data as well, that the track was lost due to terrain and
the IAF images are inconclusive, fun part was the evasive flight path could not be questioned :)
 
This is an argument that was thrown by the US about the F16 radar data as well, that the track was lost due to terrain and
the IAF images are inconclusive, fun part was the evasive flight path could not be questioned :)
Yes, the Kashmir Bowl is a very different terrain. Till such time you rise above the Pir Panjal, its very difficult to detect anyone within the bowl from Pakistan side and also difficult for anyone within the bowl to detect anything outside the bowl. Its only our Radars high on hill tops also known in civil as Northern Control who can look really deep inside Pakistan.
 
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If it's the RVV-AE, then it's just more of the same. Hopefully, it's the SD.
Yes.. only help being that these RVV-AE would be newer, and not be near the end of their shelf life.. hence less prone to not being able to provide a targeting solution due to malfunction
 
These things are not guaranteed, it's always fluid and dynamic. And the number of targets jammed, number of frequencies jammed etc are all secrets.

And it's not easy to find weaknesses in our defences, especially over the Himalayas, with so many hiding spots. That's also how our Mig-21s were undetected until it was too late. The same thing is extremely difficult over plains.
What about the H-4s dropped in haste and lying near the loc, were they picked up by our guys...
 
This is an argument that was thrown by the US about the F16 radar data as well, that the track was lost due to terrain and
the IAF images are inconclusive, fun part was the evasive flight path could not be questioned :)

They probably already know, but can't admit publicly. Especially after that successful Syrian hit on the Israeli F-16 last year.
 
That's something you have to find out from @Falcon. But don't expect an answer.

There was something in the media though quoting people who were collecting the debris.

The last information on this was that the parts are lying close to LOC, and it was not safe to go closer at that time.... Current status nothing is available..... I dont think that would be brought to public domain as it doesnt carry any additional information which should be knows to general public.....
 
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