The Shishumaar class if anything is of an older vintage than our Kilo class. They'd be the first to go or should be.
I suspect both classes have no space to contain an AIP system & I don't think a plug containing the AIP can be retrofitted in.
Shishumar and Sindhughosh Class of Submarines : Pictures and Discussions
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I suspect both classes have no space to contain an AIP system & I don't think a plug containing the AIP can be retrofitted in.
One would assume the builders used up most of the available space on the sub at the time of the build. AIPs take up a decent amount of space. We'd have to remove something to fit it in.
AIP requires an entire section to be built and attached. Adding a new section would require appropriates upgrade in other aspects of the existing propulsion system as well, in order to make up for the increase in weight.
But this sub is the best option to test DRDO's AIP with. The Germans have excellent experience in this and can easily help us make the upgrade. Plus the fact that the last 2 subs are yet to undergo MLUs.
There's a Swedish design with Stirling AIP engine. That's far more quiet than normal AIP.
It's not about importing AIP, it's about testing DRDO's AIP on an existing design so that it can find its way on to the Scorpene in the future.
Mazagon Dock is undertaking Refit and Upgrade of Shishmuar class (U209-1500) of submarines.
There was no update in the last few years.
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2 Kilo class submarines of the Indian Navy at the Vizag port. Pic from 2017.
Kilo may incorporate AIP having more similarities with LADA class SSKs than 209s with 214s I am speculating basis my Knowledge.
What is the current status of our Navy’s submarine arm?
CNS: As on date, the Indian Navy has 17 submarines in commission.
In so far as the expansion plans of the submarine arm are concerned, the first three P-75 submarines were commissioned between December 2017 and March 2021. The fourth submarine Vela was commissioned last month and the fifth submarine is at an advanced stage of trials. The RFP for a new class of submarines under Project 75(I) has been issued. Construction of all submarines of P-75(I) will be carried out in India under the Strategic Partnership (SP) model. Additionally, the Government has also approved a proposal for extending the service life of four Sindhughosh class and two Shishumar class submarines. As part of this, two submarines have already arrived in India post completion of Medium Refit cum Life Certification (MRLC) at Russia. MRLC of the third and fourth submarine are ongoing and are likely to be completed by mid-2022.
Whilst the submarine force level is adequate to respond to current threats, we need to expeditiously progress planned acquisition progress to be future ready. The required force levels of our submarines and strategy of their operation in the future are in accordance with the overall naval plans of countering threats to national interests close to the coast as well in distant waters. Most of our submarines have been modernised and upgraded in terms of their weapons-sensors suite as well as their crew-support system. The Indian Navy’s submarine arm is a potent force, fully capable of accomplishing a wide range of operational tasks.
CNS: As on date, the Indian Navy has 17 submarines in commission.
In so far as the expansion plans of the submarine arm are concerned, the first three P-75 submarines were commissioned between December 2017 and March 2021. The fourth submarine Vela was commissioned last month and the fifth submarine is at an advanced stage of trials. The RFP for a new class of submarines under Project 75(I) has been issued. Construction of all submarines of P-75(I) will be carried out in India under the Strategic Partnership (SP) model. Additionally, the Government has also approved a proposal for extending the service life of four Sindhughosh class and two Shishumar class submarines. As part of this, two submarines have already arrived in India post completion of Medium Refit cum Life Certification (MRLC) at Russia. MRLC of the third and fourth submarine are ongoing and are likely to be completed by mid-2022.
Whilst the submarine force level is adequate to respond to current threats, we need to expeditiously progress planned acquisition progress to be future ready. The required force levels of our submarines and strategy of their operation in the future are in accordance with the overall naval plans of countering threats to national interests close to the coast as well in distant waters. Most of our submarines have been modernised and upgraded in terms of their weapons-sensors suite as well as their crew-support system. The Indian Navy’s submarine arm is a potent force, fully capable of accomplishing a wide range of operational tasks.
Kilo class by 2030 end will see all but 2 of the boats cross 40 years of service. When they should go out.
One of them might be a test bed.
So 1 Kilo is coming back from Norway after refit in Russia (RFP was released maybe around 4th Jan).
And Sindhukirti will go into 22 months long refit in HSL.
And Sindhukirti will go into 22 months long refit in HSL.
IN will be operating 4 Kilo and 2 Shisumar class by the of this decade along with 6 Kalvari class. The original plan was 4 Kilo + 2 Shisumar + 6 P-75 + 6 P-75I to reach a combined strength of 18 by 2032. Then the oldest submarines would have been decommissioned and replaced by an indigenous submarine aka P-76. Now, lets see how things go.
No, the Original plan was 6 P-75 + 6 P-75I + 12 indian designed SSK = 24 SSK
Then it got amended to 6 Indian-designed SSK + 6 Indian SSNs = 18 SSKs + 6 SSN