Shishumar and Sindhughosh Class of Submarines : Pictures and Discussions

No, the Original plan was 6 P-75 + 6 P-75I + 12 indian designed SSK = 24 SSK
Then it got amended to 6 Indian-designed SSK + 6 Indian SSNs = 18 SSKs + 6 SSN
No sir, what I am saying is until last year, IN had hoped to reach the number 18 by having the quoted distribution of 4 Kilo + 2 Shisumar + 6 P-75 + 6 P-75I. What you said was planned under 1999 and amended in 2016 but IN knew they can't reach that number by 2032 with all new subs that is why they thought of upgrading the Kilos and Shisumars.

How come IN can have both P-76 and P-75I till 2032?
 
(flot, jan.12)
Western sanctions against Russia have made it difficult to transport to India the diesel-electric submarine Sinduratna, which has been repaired and modernised in Severodvinsk. This was reported by TASS on Thursday 12 January, citing the Times of India.

"The anti-Russian sanctions have created some problems for the return of the submarine to India. Initially, it was planned that in October 2022, the
Sinduratna DEPL would be delivered by commercial semi-submersible vessel directly from Severodvinsk, where it has completed modernisation. However, the ship's owners have changed the freight conditions," sources told the Indian newspaper.

According to them, under the new conditions, the loading of the submarine onto a transport ship should take place in February in the Norwegian port of Tromsø or any other Norwegian port. The delivery of the '
Sinduratna' to its location in Mumbai will take 35 days.

According to reporters, the Indian submarine was being repaired and upgraded at the Zvezdochka ship repair centre in Severodvinsk after a serious accident and fire in February 2014, which killed two people on board.

Sinduratna, a diesel-electric submarine of the Soviet project 877EKM (according to NATO classification - Kilo), was commissioned in 1988. The Indian Navy is armed with six such submarines. /Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ashwin
(ToI, feb.24)

In a 1st, Indian submarine INS Sindhukesari docks in Indonesia amid South China Sea conflict​

NEW DELHI: An Indian submarine has, for the first time ever, docked in Indonesia, which is among the countries locked in a maritime dispute with China in the contentious South China Sea, as part of the continuing overall diplomatic-military outreach to Asean countries.​
The 3,000-tonne diesel-electric submarine, INS Sindhukesari, reached Jakarta for the ‘maiden operational turnaround’ after transiting through the Sunda Strait on Wednesday. “Indian warships often visit Indonesia and other Asean countries. This first long-range deployment of a submarine underlines the operational capability and reach of the country’s underwater combat arm as well,” a senior official told TOI.​
INS Sindhukesari had undergone a major Rs 1,197-crore ‘medium refit-cum-life extension’ at Severodvinsk in Russia that ended in 2018, as part of the ongoing plan to upgrade four old Sindhughosh-class (Russian-origin Kilo-class) and two Shishumar-class (German HDW) submarines to stem depletion in the underwater fleet.​
The submarine’s deployment to Indonesia comes soon after India conducted operational training to handle the BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles for 21 military personnel from Philippines at Nagpur earlier this month.​
India will supply three missile batteries of the shore-based anti-ship systems of the BrahMos, a deadly conventional (non-nuclear) weapon that flies almost three times the speed of sound at Mach 2.8 with a strike range of 290-km, under the $375 million contract inked in January last year.​
The first such BrahMos export order to Philippines, which also has bitter territorial disputes with China in the South China Sea, is expected to pave the way for such deals with other Asean countries like Indonesia and Vietnam.​
Along with the push for military ties with African and Gulf countries on one side, India has been steadily cranking up defence relations with Asean countries on the other side through combat exercises, exchanges, training programmes to operate fighters and submarines, and now increasingly weapon supplies.​
India, for instance, had transferred a Kilo-class submarine INS Sindhuvir to Myanmar in 2020, as was then reported by TOI. Apart from BrahMos, jointly developed with Russia, India also hopes to sell the indigenous Akash missile systems, which can intercept hostile aircraft, helicopters, drones and subsonic cruise missiles at a range of 25-km, to countries like Philippines, Indonesia and Vietnam, among other countries.​
On the bilateral exercises front, India has conducted the ‘SIMBEX’ naval exercise with Singapore, the ‘Agni Warrior’ Army exercise with Singapore, ‘Harimau Shakti’ with Malaysia and the ‘Garud Shakti’ with Indonesia in recent months.​
With Indonesia, India also conducts coordinated naval patrols twice a year, with the last one being held along the international maritime boundary line in December.​
“India and Indonesia have expanded their strategic and defence cooperation in a wide range of areas, especially after inking a new defence cooperation agreement during PM Narendra Modi’s visit to the country in 2018,” another official said. /end
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ankit Kumar
ihi2b2mqu3ka1.jpg

 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Ashwin and Fatalis



The Defence Ministry has signed a ₹2,725-crore contract with Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL), Mumbai, for the Medium Refit with Life Certification (MRLC) of the HDW-class submarine INS Shankush which will extend its life. This is the second HDW submarine that will undergo MRLC with upgrade of the first one, currently in progress, to be completed by August. This is one of seven submarines that are being put through the process as the Navy struggles to maintain its depleting sub-surface fleet.

Meanwhile, the fourth Kilo-class submarine meant to undergo MRLC is awaiting transport to be taken to Russia, which has been delayed due to non-availability of transport docks in the backdrop of war in Ukraine.

The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) had originally approved the MRLC programme for six submarines - four Kilos and two HDWs - in August 2014 at a cost of around ₹1,000 crore per boat. So far, three Kilo submarines have undergone the process which extends their life by 10 to 15 years. These include Sindhukesari, Sindhukirti and Sindhuratna.

The first submarine to undergo MRLC was INS Sindhukesari, a Kilo-class submarine commissioned in 1989. INS Sindhukirti underwent refit and life extension at Hindustan Shipyard Limited, Visakhapatnam while INS Sindhuratna was sent to Russia.

However, earlier this year, INS Sindhuratna was stuck in Russia due to non-availability of transport following which the Navy looked for an option to sail it to Norway and then move it in a sea-lift vessel to Mumbai. However, after that too didn’t materialise the submarine reached Mumbai on its own after sailing for 97 days and almost 10,000 miles with two port calls in between in France and Spain. Finding transport to ship the next submarine to Russia is again an issue and the Navy is evaluating options, another defence official said.
 
  • Like
Reactions: marich01
DAC approved MLU of 6 subs in 2014:

1. INS Sindhukesari - Completed in Russia
2. INS Sindhuratna - Completed in Russia
3. INS Sindhukirti - Completed at HSL
4. INS Shishumar -Currently under modernization at MDL.
5. INS Shankush - Will go under modernization at MDL with planned completion by 2026.
6. INS Sindhurashtra - Will be sent to Russia for modernization.

Other submarines for which MLU is not yet planned:
1. INS Sindhuvijay
2. INS Sindhuraj
3. INS Sindhughosh
4. INS Shalki
5. INS Shankul
 
  • Like
Reactions: marich01
DAC approved MLU of 6 subs in 2014:

1. INS Sindhukesari - Completed in Russia
2. INS Sindhuratna - Completed in Russia
3. INS Sindhukirti - Completed at HSL
4. INS Shishumar -Currently under modernization at MDL.
5. INS Shankush - Will go under modernization at MDL with planned completion by 2026.
6. INS Sindhurashtra - Will be sent to Russia for modernization.

Other submarines for which MLU is not yet planned:
1. INS Sindhuvijay
2. INS Sindhuraj
3. INS Sindhughosh
4. INS Shalki
5. INS Shankul
2725 crore rupees is big amount.

It's like spending 40 million USD on Mirage 2000 upgrade while Tejas Mk1A can come at 50 million USD.

I am now coming to the terms that P75I will cost close to 8000 crores (or near 1 billion USD) each for new builds.
 
  • Like
Reactions: marich01
2725 crore rupees is big amount.

It's like spending 40 million USD on Mirage 2000 upgrade while Tejas Mk1A can come at 50 million USD.

I am now coming to the terms that P75I will cost close to 8000 crores (or near 1 billion USD) each for new builds.
Yeah, IN could have ordered more Kalvari class instead of going this route.

But I can only wish for things like this, what really happens only depends on the top Navy brass.