Project 18, Next Generation Destroyer (NGD) : News and Updates

any update on p18?? i heard that we dont have any destroyer in production for the next 6-7 years, till then ig all the production line will remain dry???

i hope that this time govt doesnt do any cost cutting on subsytems for p18
 
any update on p18?? i heard that we dont have any destroyer in production for the next 6-7 years, till then ig all the production line will remain dry???

i hope that this time govt doesnt do any cost cutting on subsytems for p18
MDL had floated a tender for constructing a large dry dock , other than that nothing.
However, the IN will still get plenty of ships till 2030 like the p-17A and the NGMV or NGC which should start construction from next year. There is also the P-17B heavy frigate as well. P-18d will mostly start construction in 2030.
 
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Can Quad pack short-medium range missiles, or tri-pack in 1vls.
2 medium-long range missiles in 1vls.

Single Anti ballistic missile in 1vls.
At present I am not considering multi pack approach. Are there any nato navy or in general other navy got multi pack of brahmos class heavy missiles, except usa maybe ? not sure. Multipackaging approach is highly maintenance intensive & rely on long life cycle of many smaller parts , which is our case would be a handicap.
 
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At present I am not considering multi pack approach. Are there any nato navy or in general other navy got multi pack of brahmos class heavy missiles, except usa maybe ? not sure. Multipackaging approach is highly maintenance intensive & rely on long life cycle of many smaller parts , which is our case would be a handicap.
Not brahmos class.
Multipacking smaller missiles in larger brahmos vls, using brahmos vls as universal vls.

Large missiles like ad1, ad2,
And anti ship like brahmos, subsonic anti ship cruise missiles etc , single missile per vls.

China has universal vls in its latest ships.
Japan, south korea also have it.

modern/latest Russian warships are equipped with the UKSK VLS, which can handle a variety of missiles, though it's not considered a truly universal system, but even russia is moving towards universal vls with this development.


So every major navy either has universal standard vls, or partial universal standard vls implemented, except indian navy.


If its too cumbersome we can go with twin vls system.
One for airdefense missiles, designed to house a single large anti ballistic missile and more than other airdefense missiles per vls. Like two long range missiles, 2-3 medium range, 3-4 short range missiles per vls.



Another vls for anti ship/land attack missiles, to house, brahmos, subsonic cruise missile, future scramjet hypersonic missile, also probably smart torpedo carrying missile.


Though, is the S in smart, really stands for supersonic given its a derivative of shaurya missile.
Or it's an Hmart.
 
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Possibly the design of Next Gen Destroyer (guessing from relative size of gun, beam of the vessel & number of VLS cells)

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Interesting radar layout. We can see arrays not only embedded in the superstructure (presumably LRMFR) but also on the mast up top. If LRMFR is below, the mast radar certainly wouldn't be MFSTAR, so I'm guessing it would be a surveillance radar of some sort.

This would imply the LRMFR will not have multi-band functionalities.

Also, the resemblance to Italy's DDX which existed in WESEE's old CGI is now completely gone. I'm kinda disappointed if there won't be any VLS amidships...without that second farm, VLS count would be on the lower side.

I wonder how long this project will remain in the conceptual design phase. The design might change yet again.
 
At present I am not considering multi pack approach. Are there any nato navy or in general other navy got multi pack of brahmos class heavy missiles, except usa maybe ? not sure. Multipackaging approach is highly maintenance intensive & rely on long life cycle of many smaller parts , which is our case would be a handicap.
Other than ESSM, the USNs Virginia class have multipack Virginia Payload Modules (VPMs) for around 8 Tomahawk iirc. Heck, our Arihant have 3 round plugs per VLS cell for K-15. Unless, we develop a way of replenishing weapons at sea, multi pack is imperative, imo. The USN has been working on weapons RAS for a while.

 
Not brahmos class.
Multipacking smaller missiles in larger brahmos vls, using brahmos vls as universal vls.
not even sure what sort of IP protection is there + suitability. My guess would be given that we are only just doing the canisterisation work for several different missiles, multiple packaging is still some time away.

Almost all missiles of ours so far are of first gen (in drdo made terms, not missile gen) so once every system get established then only you can think of multiple packaging. At present each canister got a single top seal. to have multi launch from same tube this system need miniaturisation at individual level ie each missile in own single canister then several are packed together via hydraulics mechanism inside a bigger canister tube ?
 
Possibly the design of Next Gen Destroyer (guessing from relative size of gun, beam of the vessel & number of VLS cells)

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Disappointing design. Very conventional and evolutionary.

The main changes are the new radar layout and the removal of ASW rockets.

Looks like its 16x Brahmos/LRLACM UVLS + 48x MRSAM + 16x VL-SRSAM

But, Where will the new long range SAM go?

That's not NGD, both of them are fanart.
Why do you say that? Its from navy PR.
 
On a closer look, seems there are additional small VLS (presumably for VL-SRSAM) at the rear:

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Combined with the 16 x up front, that would total 48 x small VLS for point-defence SAMs.

Along with 48 x for long range air defence/BMD up front, and 16 x large VLS for outsize articles (BrahMos/future Hypersonics).

Total 112 VLS. Quite decent.
 
On a closer look, seems there are additional small VLS (presumably for VL-SRSAM) at the rear:

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Combined with the 16 x up front, that would total 48 x small VLS for point-defence SAMs.

Along with 48 x for long range air defence/BMD up front, and 16 x large VLS for outsize articles (BrahMos/future Hypersonics).

Total 112 VLS. Quite decent.
Those quote "mrsam vls" and " brahmos" vls at the front of this design look to be of the same/similar size

While in current ships the size difference between them quite obvious.
 

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On a closer look, seems there are additional small VLS (presumably for VL-SRSAM) at the rear:

View attachment 45478

Combined with the 16 x up front, that would total 48 x small VLS for point-defence SAMs.

Along with 48 x for long range air defence/BMD up front, and 16 x large VLS for outsize articles (BrahMos/future Hypersonics).

Total 112 VLS. Quite decent.
Till there is no official confirmation, we can't speculate things as per mere assumptions... As far as I know the P18 destroyer will have 125+ VLS ... also the given model is having some design flaws as per modern surface ship design requirements.
 
Those quote "mrsam vls" and " brahmos" vls at the front of this design look to be of the same/similar size

While in current ships the size difference between them quite obvious.

Obviously the new VLS will be made keeping Project Kusha in mind. The longer ranged versions in Kusha family may have quite a fat booster that we have to accommodate.

It may or may not be possible to quad-pack smaller missiles in these cells.
 
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