Project 18, Next Generation Destroyer (NGD) : News and Updates

These ships are supposed to have the ship based DEW system mounted somewhere right, ie not just in the front section only but to cover 360deg ?
 
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Interesting radar layout. We can see arrays not only embedded in the superstructure (presumably LRMFR) but also on the mast up top. If LRMFR is below, the mast radar certainly wouldn't be MFSTAR, so I'm guessing it would be a surveillance radar of some sort.

This would imply the LRMFR will not have multi-band functionalities.
May be the LRMFR would be earmarked for long range AD/BMD roles. The radar atop the mast could be a X-band radar for anti-ship & land attack roles.

Also, the resemblance to Italy's DDX which existed in WESEE's old CGI is now completely gone. I'm kinda disappointed if there won't be any VLS amidships...without that second farm, VLS count would be on the lower side.
Maybe we will get to see a multi-mission customizable bay amidship. There has to be something at the back to balance out the weight on the foredeck of the ship.
 
Hope it's not NGD & is NGF..... NGD need to be this

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Yes... This the most appropriate design concept for NGD... I LOVED IT...just want a very small modification of the MFR to be a little slanted in angle to cover maximum angle in Azimuth... But this is much better design than the latest rumoured one.... We need a superior system than PLAN TYPE 055 & it's succesors... Right now India may not match PLAN in quantity, but we can obviously outclass them in Quality.
 
If it's going to be four paneled Astra AAAU than ship going to get bigger..... Would probably make it the most capable destroyer on planet.

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US Navy would die to have a 6 mt diameter radar on their warships...... Now imagine four of them each with 45,000 TRM with total of 180,000 TRM.........This radar would detect a B-21 size stealth bomber at upward of 500 Km easily.

If it's going to be four paneled Astra AAAU than ship going to get bigger..... Would probably make it the most capable destroyer on planet.

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US Navy would die to have a 6 mt diameter radar on their warships...... Now imagine four of them each with 45,000 TRM with total of 180,000 TRM.........This radar would detect a B-21 size stealth bomber at upward of 500 Km easily.
Revised estimate 18,000 TRM max since it's operating in S Band that's 72,000 TRM in total..... With same power consumption & sensitivity as SPY-6(V)1 then range gain would be 1.5X.
 
If it's going to be four paneled Astra AAAU than ship going to get bigger..... Would probably make it the most capable destroyer on planet.

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US Navy would die to have a 6 mt diameter radar on their warships...... Now imagine four of them each with 45,000 TRM with total of 180,000 TRM.........This radar would detect a B-21 size stealth bomber at upward of 500 Km easily.

Imo, more than likely NGD will get a 4 panel superstructure mounted radar config similar to Arleigh Burke/Type 052D/Type 055, given the sheer size.

From what we know,  LRMFR is quite a bit a big larger than LM SPY-6 that's going onboard AB Flight 3 and a host of Euro ships. Hopefully it's a scalable design that can be adapted to P-17 size FFG in the future.
 
Hope it's not NGD & is NGF..... NGD need to be this

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If it's going to be four paneled Astra AAAU than ship going to get bigger..... Would probably make it the most capable destroyer on planet.

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US Navy would die to have a 6 mt diameter radar on their warships...... Now imagine four of them each with 45,000 TRM with total of 180,000 TRM.........This radar would detect a B-21 size stealth bomber at upward of 500 Km easily.


Revised estimate 18,000 TRM max since it's operating in S Band that's 72,000 TRM in total..... With same power consumption & sensitivity as SPY-6(V)1 then range gain would be 1.5X.
That render looked really good. They only issue with that design is the radar. If the LR-MFR (6 m wide & 25 ton per panel) has to be mounted atop a mast, P-18 will have a draft of ~8 - 8.5 m & length to 200+ m.
 
That render looked really good. They only issue with that design is the radar. If the LR-MFR (6 m wide & 25 ton per panel) has to be mounted atop a mast, P-18 will have a draft of ~8 - 8.5 m & length to 200+ m.
We are reaching battle cruiser territory than........ Based Based Based 😎
 
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Could it be that we're going for fore and aft citadels for mounting LRMFR? It is a novel idea but well proven. The Germans have the under dev F-127 class DDG design with a similar layout.

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And then there's the in-service F-125 class too.


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Do we have any timelines/roadmap for the P18 ships yet?

Also, it seems there are 2 different-looking P18 designs. One was revealed in the WDB video, and there's a slightly different design in a video by MDL at a defense expo. Have the ships still not finished basic designs?
 
Could it be that we're going for fore and aft citadels for mounting LRMFR? It is a novel idea but well proven. The Germans have the under dev F-127 class DDG design with a similar layout.
Can not tell tbh , we have to see what config finally get revealed. Currently there are tenders for ship propulsion simulation, plus this aaau etc so bit by bit certain aspects will come clear. The unicorn mast will also likely come, possibly hybrid propulsion too, then dew system, auv carry system. Navy is generally semi conservative ie some sudden crazy idea will not get reflected in the design & later get cleared into production. It will be proven mature system with rational scaling up that does not impact the ship agility speed etc characteristics to compensate for extra weapons loadout. The weapon systems we use are also quite heavy & going thru evolution. So each element has to merge with other present element on the ship in a precise manner.
 
Do we have any timelines/roadmap for the P18 ships yet?

Also, it seems there are 2 different-looking P18 designs. One was revealed in the WDB video, and there's a slightly different design in a video by MDL at a defense expo. Have the ships still not finished basic designs?
No design has been officially revealed.

Upcoming contracts include 8 NGC and 7 P-17B. P-18 is 3 to 4 years away.