The first firing of Brahmos missile, INS sindhudurg broke into two halves and sunk into the ocean before the scientist & the Navy reached to the location,
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Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions
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in the presentation videos they have shown it many times. Its a common feature almost, video was also played several times I have seen.
This should be what they should fear the most, when it enters service it will Essentially cut PLANs access to IOR region.
This is only for really high value targets , like the very large carriers for jets uavs or helicopters even, or the LPD size big ships , or maybe those floating huge docks china makes for war use. The regular capital ships like destroyers etc are unlikely to be engaged with this. A deterrence for all yes, but when to choose target perhaps it will not target anything or everything floating.
In a way LR-AShM sort of extends the land version role of the Sagarika , a pseudo cruise missile to counter the 1971 like situation, the main reason why K-15 was conceptualised after the Soviets demonstrated it.
"Cutting PLANs access to IOR region" here means, making them incapable of challenging IN in IOR & to crush any opposition PLAN shows if we ever decide to block Raw material supply heading towards china crossing IOR, in case of full scale war.
Destroying their carriers basically means, we destroy the aircover of chinese navy, any navy without aircover Is *censored*ed when facing opponents which have air power( IN aviation and IAF).
The only force that is not affected by LRASHM is PLAN submarine force.
But why was it never put into service and anti ship varient made?
Instead it is used in nuclear delivery role, and shaurya in limited no. Under stratigic forces command.
It's only now with induction of pralay, it is intended to be used in tactical land attack role.
From what I know russian zircon antiship&land attack HCM is similar to shaurya/K15 instead of using scramjet.
We could had our own ship launched zircon like/HCM like missile in service.
I am pretty sure things will not move in that way because only low power navy less Iran & Houthi type ragtag groups threaten such action. A confident navy with a decent amount of naval asset available will challenge any threat towards it with an aggressive posture as deterrent. The chinese know this very well, which is why they will not directly challenge in this way. The IOR is vast, much greater than we think and we certainly won't block any passage.
The only assets that are to be challenged are the naval military assets, and in this regard most action will be about calling out china's bluff tactics.
Sagarika's role is to deter any nuclear threat, that includes threat posed by any nuclear power plant driven large vessel like SSN SSBN and the american carriers. When the soviet sub came to deter usa uk carrier group in the western shore , it had cruise missiles capable of taking out those carriers. That particular role left huge impression over the political contingent resulting in secret handover of nuke sub plans from USSR and later lease of soviet subs Chakra. Govt changes never stopped funding for such projects despite on off time impression in public but the work went on including full reverse engineering of Chakra containerised missile launching system. There was no benchmark available within the country nor any proper industry so even with delays finally Arihant came out that is capable of fielding a nuke tipped fast cruise missile capable of penetrating any ad system. Its sole purpose is to deter events like 1971 , or whatever the western coalition keep doing with less sophisticated ME nations. This will not get repeated in our case because the messaging is clear, they will find real trouble should they try to cause us trouble.
Yeah no, the raw material chocking would be to help our war effort on himalayan/land front.
There are handful of passage ways to cross IOR, we know what African countries supplies what raw materials, and where the ports are we can stop the ships near the ports, near the choke points etc.
It's another deck, we can play in desperate times in case of long term full scale war.
And to prevent that is literally the reason Chinese navy wishes to project power in IOR itself.
So some k15 Sagarikas on Arihant and some shaurya missiles have conventional warhead?
Can it be guided towards & attack moving targets like ships?
There are certain international level treaties and general agreements that at least our countries political hierarchy will always continue to abide by even if the other (rogue) side does not. Recent event is a prime example of it. So I am quite certain things like that won't be done by our military unless specifically instructed and allowed by the political leadership of the country.
Desperate times calls for Desperate measures.
Chances of "full scale" war itself I pretty low, war if ever happened would most likely remain regional as it's in benifit of both sides to maintain that, but again if by a small chance full scale long term war did happen, then again Desperate times calls for Desperate measures.
Even US navy has plans to blockade chinese shipping, if things ever escalate to that level, also one of the main reason Chinese were building their "belt and road" project.
Its a rather lame narrative and propagated by US think tanks due to having plenty of proxies willing to do the dirty work, see Estonia effort recently. An actual evnt in a vast ocean like the south china sea and IOR will play out differently. At most certain ship boarding by patrolling parties will happen or stray incidents. Actual military blockade and engagement happens very few & far less without active participation from multiple countries , 5+ at least. Else its not effective.
Alleged move to ‘delink’ BrahMos Thiruvananthapuram unit from parent organisation kicks up row
An alleged move to “delink” the Thiruvananthapuram unit of BrahMos from the parent BrahMos Aerospace Pvt Ltd (BAPL), the Indo-Russian missile JV, has cast a pall of uncertainty over an enterprise that was once hailed as a model of Centre-State collaboration.
Over the past few weeks, employees at the BrahMos Aerospace Thiruvananthapuram Ltd (BATL), situated at Chakka in the State capital, have been concerned over a reported move to separate BATL from BAPL, of which it is a wholly-owned subsidiary. They have sought the urgent intervention of the Kerala government to discourage any move that adversely impacts the future of the unit and jobs.
When contacted by The Hindu, BATL managing director A. Joseph said the Thiruvananthapuram unit has not been delinked thus far, but he also did not fully rule out the possibility of such an eventuality. Mr. Joseph went on to add that he was not privy to the discussions taking place at the BAPL headquarters.
Employees’ unions argue that the Kerala government cannot be kept in the dark about such decisions with respect to BATL as the unit was established in 2007 by transferring the State government-run company Kerala Hi-Tech Industries Ltd (KELTEC) for a token ₹1.
Unions allege that the BrahMos management have show utter disregard to the Thiruvananthapuram unit even at a time when Operation Sindoor has demonstrated the might of the BrahMos missile and the demand for its production is on the rise. They also note that BATL has run on a profit over the past 11 years, including a ₹24 crore profit in 2024-25.
With the INTUC-led BrahMos Staff Association and the AITUC-backed BrahMos Employees Union conveying their apprehensions over the reported delinking move, Thiruvananthapuram MP Shashi Tharoor and CPI State secretary Binoy Viswam, who is also president of the AITUC-led union, have separately appealed to Defence Minister Rajnath Singh to urgently intervene to protect the unit.
Mr. Tharoor noted in a June 27 letter that “Employees were recently alarmed to learn - through proceedings at a Board of Directors meeting and the Annual General Meeting of BAPL - that a resolution had been passed to delink BATL from BAPL. This decision was taken without the prior knowledge or consultation of the State government, the employees, or the trade unions, and has been widely perceived as a disregard for the significance of this vital defence manufacturing unit in Kerala.” Mr. Viswam, in a June 4 letter expressed similar sentiment, and urged Mr. Singh to “investigate this matter.”
Both Mr. Tharoor and Mr. Viswam have urged the Defence Minister to allay fears by either retaining BATL under BAPL’s structure or reconstituting it as a direct production entity under the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
KELTEC, situated on 15.80 acres near the Thiruvananthapuram airport, was transferred to BAPL, a JV of the DRDO and Russian company NPOM, on December 5, 2007. A.K. Antony was Defence Minister at the time in the Congress-led UPA government while Elamaram Kareem was Industries Minister in the LDF government led by V.S. Achuthanandan in Kerala.
In connection with the transfer, a March 22, 2007, State Industries Department order observed that the Centre-State collaboration would provide Kerala with its “first defence production unit.” It would also “result in additional investments between at least ₹100 crore to ₹200 crore initially and may go up many fold.”
Brahmos batteries replacing Styx coastal batteries.
Also intersting that Styxs have been moved to Okha. Closer to Karachi.
Also intersting that Styxs have been moved to Okha. Closer to Karachi.
Navy, every Branch has surface to surface launched brahmos