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Please understand, it takes gaps of time to find a weakness in the enemy to hammer in, we arent weak because we are silent, we are feared for our silence
In your opinion, do the Pak armed forces fear our armed forces? If so, then the events of 27th and why did-they-do-what-they-did needs greater scrutiny and analysis.

I have a friend (whose brother is a brigadier in the IA) and he said that PA is afraid of the IA. Do you agree, Sir?
 
In your opinion, do the Pak armed forces fear our armed forces? If so, then the events of 27th and why did-they-do-what-they-did needs greater scrutiny and analysis.

I have a friend (whose brother is a brigadier in the IA) and he said that PA is afraid of the IA. Do you agree, Sir?

Men in Uniform fear not even death, the creator maybe, having said that, why-they-did-what-they-did was not for us, it
was for the domestic audience back home, a population with growing adolescents, able minds and young bodies, people who need
faith in their forces AND FORCES THAT WILL NEED THOSE SAME PEOPLE (recruitment etc), post musharraf the army hadnt seen as many fan-boys till now.

Please also understand the "big brother" had okayed the events of the 27th, with their support and push the image of "naya pakistan: made
a giant splash, "swift retort" became a poster for the "islamic countries under oppression" and China proved it was laying a string of "jagged" pearls around us all along.

Focusing on the fear you mentioned, the master planner Sun Tzu, who we owe due credit to in terms of all doctrines said one must "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak", right now we are mastering that, the world did not come to Pakistan's rescue and mediate as they feared war, they stepped in knowing what precedent India might set in its wake, destabilizing more than just one neighbor.

We have miles to go as a force, time has always grounded us when we have flown high (mi17,an32), its time we adopt
the doval route more, subduing the enemy without a fight.

The PA is not afraid, they are war tested each day, as i write this, their men are probably in a gunfight somewhere bearing faith in what they do as gods work and death as the prize of humanity (dont look down on this, it only makes them harder), the IA has history as
its witness(need i say more), what fun is a fight when your opponent doesn't bring a bite.
 
Sir, not after ive seen images showing the installation of new AD at lahore :)
Seems we might have made the message loud and clear[

I will wait for the message to reap benefits. We lost 5 brave men couple of days back. I am scared if it ends at message level only.
 
I will wait for the message to reap benefits. We lost 5 brave men couple of days back. I am scared if it ends at message level only.

Whats unfortunate is others have waited 60 years to see the message, the benefits are not reaped by us, the ones who plant the seeds are the ones who water the plant, for the halls of power, men come and go, symbolised by stars on walls, it is the legacy of "A KING" that is built on the back of these very "pawns"

forgive the poetry, the topic exists because of a turbulent ecosystem
 
Whats unfortunate is others have waited 60 years to see the message, the benefits are not reaped by us, the ones who plant the seeds are the ones who water the plant, for the halls of power, men come and go, symbolised by stars on walls, it is the legacy of "A KING" that is built on the back of these very "pawns"

forgive the poetry, the topic exists because of a turbulent ecosystem

Are you suggesting a long, very long haul we are into? I am not at ease with it.
 
Are you suggesting a long, very long haul we are into? I am not at ease with it.


Domestically, the valley has seen a new summer "loo" contrary to its icy winds, the heat wave has wiped cleaned many predators
that for far too long were hibernating, hoping to crack this earth.

Internationally, a long haul is an understatement, for the house itself lacks the doors to keep them away, ergo kilometers of
unguarded, un fenced and unknown sectors, the harsh reality is at 4 am hiding between pieces of rocks and a make shift shelter at subzero temps, with nothing but some letters from home and food that's frozen, a jawan relies on his gun not jamming and his equipment not failing as the elements of terror and nature play tricks on him. Till we dont learn ways to be the "chowkidars" of that man whos using nothing but his body to shield us back home, this drama will continue, forever.
 
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Babaji has been Missing for Two days now

PAF exercises going on

Airspace Closure extended till 28

Modi Insults Pakistan in SCO
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Looks like the Planets are Aligning for Some Action :LOL:
 
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Baluchistan events are Also linked to the Present stand off

Since the PA had to pull out its troops from
Baluchistan , the Rebels have stepped up their Attacks
 
sir people of pakistan aren't terrorists.they are proxy games.you are playing your game.we are playing our game.both armies can solve every problem by dialogues.there is no proof in pakistani courts related to hafiz saeed and masood azhar.india wanted to match hafiz voice with their own proof which pakistan denied.pakistan asked india to handover proof but india didn't respond.case not progressing anymore.how can we put them in jail if there is no proof? even before balakot,there was jem video warning india that they will attack but videos aren't proof.you have to capture the entire gang.in pakistan,we don't have anything to put them in jail.their schools or madrassas are filled with children but there is no evidence of any kind of jehadi education.you invited isi to pathankot.you hand over something and they denied that our people are involved.problem with india is simple.if you have credible proof,share it with us.why we will not react if there is credible proof? we will react.we are also facing same problems as yours.
@Arsalan123 Pakistan was/is playing games ever since its partition from India, first in Kashmir which led to war in 1948 & then again in 1965. Then Indira Gandhi played counter game and my oh my more than 93000 mard e momins surrendered with their heads down and half country lost to Bengalis.

Wounded Pakistan then started playing games in Punjab stoking khalistan movement (although it was also a political tug of war between Indira Gandhi, Durbara singh, zail Singh, and Akalis) and again Kashmir freedom movement both successfully contained by India. Now Modi government has just started playing games in fata, Gilgit Baltistan, Baluchistan, Sindh and pok and again look at Imran Khan and Bajwa begging for peace knowing what is coming their way.
We have just taken out our popcorn and are enjoying the show. Next 5years will be interested...😁😁

Note: India kept restraint during Nehru, Janta govt, idiot IK Gujral even shared India's deep assets to seek peace, Vajpayee tried with Lahore agreement only to be backstabbed by Pak Gernails. Modi like Indira Gandhi who delivered Bangladesh will deliver 4 babies to the world. Time for dossier dossier giving proof of Harpic sayeed and Ajgar Masood involvement and Aman Ka TAMASHA is long gone. Have fun...😉😉
 
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They've hit them again, adding this, pak had 1 out of 5 subs online post balakot
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Interesting, how they spotted our sub in march, had theirs in dry docks, thus the vigil on their waters
and the quick media announcement to alert the world to a threat they might not be able to defend against

Well played pak, but india played this better, showed up on intel when they had no subs
 
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