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Pray for completion of s400 delivery first, Russia may not fullfill the last two S(hit)-400 regiments to IAF.
S-400 is vital for us retaking POK and thwarting Pak/China Nexus. We will find a way to make payment to the Russians.
@Rajput Lion :p:p:p Hydra is on a roll?
On a roll or on a troll??

We will only go for F-35 if Uncle Sam agrees to give us 100% autonomy over its usage. Otherwise FGFA/AMCA/Rafale/MKI UPG./Tejas MK1A/2 this is what the future of IAF would look like. Period.
 
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S-400 is vital for us retaking POK and thwarting Pak/China Nexus. We will find a way to make payment to the Russians.

On a roll or on a troll??
You need willpower first to do that. Barring,IG None of our leaders had that so far.
Secondly you need capable infantry & mechanised forces traveling along with hefty howitzer support from ground, mobile sams& air cover from aircraft. S400 is as useless as a pineapple on pizza.
We will only go for F-35 if Uncle Sam agrees to give us 100% autonomy over its usage. Otherwise FGFA/AMCA/Rafale/MKI UPG./Tejas MK1A/2 this is what the future of IAF would look like. Period.
PAF had used f16 on offensive role,they fired up on us with AIM120c. These were given to PAF for use strictly for anti terrorism activities. So this US control all are myths propagated by Russian bootlickers in India.
 
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Not going to happen. As it is with all your US platforms.
I am not against US fighters in IAF or IN. But this autonomy thing is a huge contentious issue for us.

NGAD and B-21 for us, I'm all game. F-35, no problem. Just remove the kill switch and allow us to use it as we want and don't mind it too.

But realistically, the above scenario doesn't look probable or possible. So only reaslitic 5th gen we can procure this decade to counter J-20 is Su-57M. Period.
 
You need willpower first to do that. Barring,IG None of our leaders had that so far.
Secondly you need capable infantry & mechanised forces traveling along with hefty howitzer support from ground, mobile sams& air cover from aircraft. S400 is as useless as a pineapple on pizza.
You don't understand the concept of S-400. We move it forward and entire Pakistani airspace turns into No Fly Zone. It counters their cruise/ballistic missiles too.

If we can find a way to make payments of the crude oil we're buying from Russia, we'll find a way for S-400 payment too. It's a game-changer for us. We're not going to relinquish it for trivial issues.
PAF had used f16 on offensive role,they fired up on us with AIM120c. These were given to PAF for use strictly for anti terrorism activities. So this US control all are myths propagated by Russian bootlickers in India.
So you really believe US gave AIM-120C5s to counter terrorists? Lmfao.

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Wishfull thinking.
As Egypt and UAE how they were free to use their F16....

And what about S400 ? USA can't refuse to a NATO member to have S400 and F35 and to agree to a non NATO one.
That's exactly what I'm saying too. We need to order few squadrons of Rafale 4.2 and Su-57M(both government to government) to continue parity with China. There are reports of China going to increase the production of J-20 from 40 to 100 units per year:oops:. If IAF & our gov. don't wake up now, then we're going to get seriously effed in the next aerial war.

Americans fighters just don't cut it for us because of all the strings attached. Indian/Russian/French fighters are perfect in the Indian context.
 
You don't understand the concept of S-400. We move it forward and entire Pakistani airspace turns into No Fly Zone.
Tell this to Ukrain, they dont really know this gold theory.
. It counters their cruise/ballistic missiles too.
Counter ballistic missiles? Another ignorant post from a shity brain. Russian themselve will not claim about ballistic missile.
 
So you really believe US gave AIM-120C5s to counter terrorists? Lmfao.

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Your peanut brain still not ready to get comprehended, listen US sold f16,aim120 for anti terrorism. That's the condition,you yourself don't believe it . That's what I am telling,the condition of US has only a paper value.
 
Just remove the kill switch
It's in your @*s, it is slowly killing us all, because you are s#itting here as your post.
That's exactly what I'm saying too. We need to order few squadrons of Rafale 4.2 and Su-57M(both government to government) to continue parity with China. There are reports of China going to increase the production of J-20 from 40 to 100 units per year:oops:. If IAF & our gov. don't wake up now, then we're going to get seriously effed in the next aerial war.

Americans fighters just don't cut it for us because of all the strings attached. Indian/Russian/French fighters are perfect in the Indian context.
Russian themselves dont have any trust on that poorly designed, poorly equipped, underpowered aircraft. And you are asking we Indians to place order.
 
Your peanut brain still not ready to get comprehended, listen US sold f16,aim120 for anti terrorism. That's the condition,you yourself don't believe it . That's what I am telling,the condition of US has only a paper value.
Yes..you can hit Osama Bin Laden in mid air while going to 72 hoors.😂
 
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That's exactly what I'm saying too. We need to order few squadrons of Rafale 4.2 and Su-57M(both government to government) to continue parity with China. There are reports of China going to increase the production of J-20 from 40 to 100 units per year:oops:. If IAF & our gov. don't wake up now, then we're going to get seriously effed in the next aerial war.

Americans fighters just don't cut it for us because of all the strings attached. Indian/Russian/French fighters are perfect in the Indian context.
This is where you get delusional. You already use US equipment with these conditions. Unless you plan on attacking Australia or Japan, it's a non issue.
France and Russia also have limitations. ask Argentina about how the French cut them off at the knees, when they upset their UK friend. An outright betrayal.
Russia's new best friend is China. What can go wrong there for india?
 
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Russia's new best friend is China. What can go wrong there for india?
They already started screwing India on behalf of China. When Chinese first mobilized a massive infantry column, Russian deceived us by conveying the message that it's part of their annual military exercise. Moreover, in 2020 the stupid Jaishankar meets Chinese counterpart in presence of Putin in Russia,the pull back agreement solution proposed by Russia is favouring Chinese. Ironically,that stupid JNU product agreed that proposal and came back to Dekhi. Fortunately,Modi government pursue it later.

Let's forget that Russia supplying engine for ,s400,35s for china they been selling weapons to us & china for long. But, Pakistan. They started selling crucial engine for JF17.

These all are clear indication,the sh!t load in this forum is so stupid to comprehend this facts .
 
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The US tells you upfront, what the conditions are. France and Russia don't tell you upfront. Surprise.....they make it up as they go along. You don't know where you stand.
 
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"J-20s fly with Luneberg lenses which means that their true RCS is still a mystery for anyone outside China."