Its protection is less than BMP2.
The BMP2 based light tank would have better Survival chances. No ATGMs required, the 37mm AA chinkis have, will be enough to get this thing to ashes.
Zorawar: Light tank for Indian army
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The BMP2 based light tank would have better Survival chances. No ATGMs required, the 37mm AA chinkis have, will be enough to get this thing to ashes.
I believe it's probably a typo even with modular composite armour one can easily reach stanag 5 level.
By the way Sprut can withstand 23mm canon fire. STANAG level 4 means Zorawar can only face 14.5 HMG fire.
The 23mm AP round will penetrate it from front and get out from its rear.
But it has weight. And those European modern IFVs weight between 30-35 tons.
Not 25 tons.
The 23mm AP round will penetrate it from front and get out from its rear.
Modular Armour is the answer. European IFVs have it. It protects them against 30mm canon fire.
But it has weight. And those European modern IFVs weight between 30-35 tons.
Not 25 tons.
Aren't we moving away from Rifled Gun?
Stanag level 2 weigjs 25 tons?
Read somewhere our new M5 Or tata Or mahindra vehicle is stanag level 2.
Isn't this a bit too low for a tracked tank platform?
India to kickstart mega indigenous project for light tanks amid confrontation with China | India News - Times of India
India News: NEW DELHI: India is set to kick-start a mega indigenous acquisition project for 354 light tanks, the critical operational necessity for which has come.
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NEW DELHI: India is set to kick-start a mega indigenous acquisition project for 354 light tanks, the critical operational necessity for which has come to the fore during the ongoing over 30-month long confrontation with China in eastern Ladakh.
Sources say the defence ministry has resolved the festering differences between the Army and DRDO over the light tanks meant for high-altitude warfare in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh as well as riverine areas like the Rann of Kutch and can be swiftly deployed after being transported by air.
The Rajnath Singh-led Defence Acquisitions Council will soon take up the grant of AoN (acceptance of necessity) for the armoured fighting vehicle-Indian light tank (AFV-ILT) under Project `Zorawar’, at a cost of around Rs 17,500 crore, the sources told TOI.
The proposal is that 59 of the 354 light tanks, each weighing less than 25 tonnes with a high power-to-weight ratio as well as superior firepower and protection, will be reserved for the tanks developed by DRDO. The remaining 295 tanks will be manufactured under the government-funded design and development project for the Indian industry in the `Make-1’ category of the Defence Acquisition Procedure (DAP).
“DRDO can also compete with private players for this,” a source said.
The Army had strongly pitched for all 354 tanks to be produced by the private sector under the Make-1 category. But the DRDO argued its Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) was already working to develop a light tank prototype with private sector giant Larsen & Toubro as the “lead system integrator”.
“DRDO says its first light tank prototype will roll out by mid-2023. So, the decision is that 59 tanks be reserved for DRDO, with the condition that it delivers a successful prototype ahead of the others in the fray,” the source added. The 12-lakh strong Army had managed to deploy some of its heavier Russian-origin T-90S and T-72 main-battle tanks (40 to 50 tonne each) in eastern Ladakh after the confrontation erupted in 2020. The PLA also inducted a large number of technologically advanced mix of medium and light tanks, including the new third-generation Type-15 ones. “But the T-90S and T-72, designed for operations in plains and deserts, have limitations in high-altitude areas ranging from 11,000 to almost 17,000-feet. Consequently, the need for indigenous versatile light tanks that are more manoeuvrable and operationally flexible in mountains,” another source said. The ongoing Russia-Ukraine war has also impacted both the manufacturing and sustenance of the Army’s fleet of 1,200 T-90S (another 457 being manufactured under licence from Russia) and 2,400 older T-72 tanks. The Army wants the new light tanks to also incorporate niche technologies like AI, drone integration, active protection system and high degree of situational awareness, among others.
Sources say the defence ministry has resolved the festering differences between the Army and DRDO over the light tanks meant for high-altitude warfare in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh as well as riverine areas like the Rann of Kutch and can be swiftly deployed after being transported by air.
The Rajnath Singh-led Defence Acquisitions Council will soon take up the grant of AoN (acceptance of necessity) for the armoured fighting vehicle-Indian light tank (AFV-ILT) under Project `Zorawar’, at a cost of around Rs 17,500 crore, the sources told TOI.
The proposal is that 59 of the 354 light tanks, each weighing less than 25 tonnes with a high power-to-weight ratio as well as superior firepower and protection, will be reserved for the tanks developed by DRDO. The remaining 295 tanks will be manufactured under the government-funded design and development project for the Indian industry in the `Make-1’ category of the Defence Acquisition Procedure (DAP).
“DRDO can also compete with private players for this,” a source said.
The Army had strongly pitched for all 354 tanks to be produced by the private sector under the Make-1 category. But the DRDO argued its Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) was already working to develop a light tank prototype with private sector giant Larsen & Toubro as the “lead system integrator”.
“DRDO says its first light tank prototype will roll out by mid-2023. So, the decision is that 59 tanks be reserved for DRDO, with the condition that it delivers a successful prototype ahead of the others in the fray,” the source added. The 12-lakh strong Army had managed to deploy some of its heavier Russian-origin T-90S and T-72 main-battle tanks (40 to 50 tonne each) in eastern Ladakh after the confrontation erupted in 2020. The PLA also inducted a large number of technologically advanced mix of medium and light tanks, including the new third-generation Type-15 ones. “But the T-90S and T-72, designed for operations in plains and deserts, have limitations in high-altitude areas ranging from 11,000 to almost 17,000-feet. Consequently, the need for indigenous versatile light tanks that are more manoeuvrable and operationally flexible in mountains,” another source said. The ongoing Russia-Ukraine war has also impacted both the manufacturing and sustenance of the Army’s fleet of 1,200 T-90S (another 457 being manufactured under licence from Russia) and 2,400 older T-72 tanks. The Army wants the new light tanks to also incorporate niche technologies like AI, drone integration, active protection system and high degree of situational awareness, among others.
Pointers
1. Estimated cost of program is 17,500 crore rupees.
2. Usage will not be limited to mountains but also kutch area. Also air mobile.
3. Total requirement 354. (6 formations with 59 tanks each)
4. 59 tanks will be DRDO-L&T
Rest will be open competition. If DRDO wins then DRDO-L&T, else other.
BAE and Israel both had showcased their ideas. They will likely team up with Indian pvt sector companies..
I feel like DRDO is worrying that they will lose the competition to the private players and their RnD will go in vein, so they went to the government for backing them up and securing them some numbers which government did and quoted them a number '59'.
Now, for the rest of the number which is around 291, private players will be allowed to bid and develop and if DRDO also wants to bid then they can do it separately without any commitment of procurement.
they are not afraid of any thing, on the contrary it is the govt which is afraid of them. vain.
The similar kind of arrangement will happen to 814 MGS but there no number will be reserved for DRDO and they will have to bid in the tender.
vain.
Only 50 will be indigenous that too as a khairat rest will be import solution. When you have dalla lobby at helm don't get excited.
59 will be drdo and drdo will be free to bid for the rest too. Its kind of unfair to others.
I would have hoped for full fledged competition between DRDO design, BAE and Israeli design.
After the release of the ATAGS RFI , in spite of all that tall talk on MII & Atma Nirbharta including the GoI's / MoD's active push towards it by coming out with the DPP , various MII plans w.r.t the armed forces , negative import lists etc I somehow get the strong impression there's either deep dissatisfaction at the DRDO consequently leading to the IA favouring imports or an active lobby smartly playing on this dissatisfaction to ply their own agenda .
I'd be very interested in seeing whom Elbit would be partnering with to bid for the RFP for ATAGS. The cat'd be out of the bag then.
In 2013 we were talking about 414 OFB guns right? 114 45cal ones and 300 in 52 cal.
This RFI is an insurance against OFB gun. Those 300 units. Kalyani has a 155/52 gun without any APU, like the M46. Low cost, light weight and like for like replacement of solid M46 guns, but with the capability to fire at high angles.
I just urge all to wait and not judge. Just discuss the possibilities. Atleast in the Artillery case.
ATAGS are coming. And 1400 units will come. But 2-3 years down the line.
L&T gets order to build prototype of light tank for Sino-India border,
L&T gets order to build prototype of light tank for Sino-India border
Defence Sector: To be optimised for extreme cold, high altitude of Ladakh, Arunachal Pradesh