I said the same thing about Rafale in India
Its clear you choose to ignore basic facts. you keep up bringing up anything but the subject, bringing up Rafale in India because you can't actually find a direct source that discounts what I say. Its very simple. we have actual Boeing numbers in Canada. The contract was so prohibitively costly even the Liberal Government which vowed to never buy F-35 rejected the Boeing contract. There are also other factors to consider like the Boeing contract would be subject to FMS fees which would add cost, but purchasing the F-35 as a partner nation would add none. This is another reason why its ridiculous to try and apply India to Canada using two different aircraft. since I assume you won't simply let this go I stand by the for the next exciting round. This is a complex thing, and you keep making surface level analysis that doesn't apply or is simply outright wrong.
That's how it works though, the real world.
The anticipated financial cost will be less: calculations currently indicate that a guarantee credit of CHF 6.035 billion will be required for the 36 F-35A fighter aircraft. This covers the following items:
• CHF 3.828 billion for the 36 F-35A aircraft (110 millions US dollars/f-35)
• CHF 1.927 billion for the logistics package, including ground material, replacement material, documentation, training, and technical support from the manufacturer during the rollout
• CHF 107 million for ammunition
• CHF 86 million for training, mission planning and evaluation systems
• CHF 82 million to cover potential technical risks: the F-35As are being purchased with the same configuration as used by other countries, and the manufacturer will produce the aircraft applying the same standards and procedures as used for over 3,000 aircraft. This means that the risk premium is expected to be low in comparison with other procurement projects.
• CHF 5 million for the assumed inflation level. A low figure can also be used for inflation, as inflation only affects that part of the transaction involving direct orders in Switzerland, i.e. to RUAG.
3.828B + 1.927B + 86M + 82M + 5M = 5.928B CHF... without weapons and R&D
4.029B + 2.028B + 90M + 86M + 5M = 6.238B USD
Indian Rafale deal... same stuff
3.42B + 0.9B + 0.35B = €4.67B
3.87B + 1.02B + 0.4B = $5.29B
I'm pretty sure $6.3B is more than $5.3B. Dunno if Canada plays by the same rules.
Apparently it took only 3 years to add a billion bucks to procurement. This kinda inflation doesn't happen anywhere else. Would that mean another billion bucks will be added to the bill by the time the first jet delivers? And another billion by the time all jets are delivered? Pretty clever way to hide costs through inflation. Just add 20% to the cost very 3 years. So 1 CHF + 1.2 CHF in just 6 years. A cool $7.6B when the first jet is delivered.
Dunno what you find so funny about the SH getting kicked out. I had already pointed out long ago that the Teens are useless. Plus this is a tactic used to kick out cheaper competitors. India does the same through tech evals. That's how Gripen, F-16, SH and Mig-35 were kicked out a decade ago too. Not many Western countries do this though.
its 100 percent political and absolutely embarrassing for Boeing if this leak turns out to be true.
Why is an older jet being less advanced than a recently designed jet embarrassing? What happened was pretty obvious as far as process was concerned. The SH doesn't match up to the Gripen for obvious reasons. The same story's gonna repeat with all older jets, including Flankers, Fulcrums, Falcons, Eagles etc. Very big RCS, old airframes, old avionics etc.