Why not? Stronger landing gear allow harder landings on improvised air strips.
It is the same thing with the Hornet. Finnish Hornets have the landing hooks. It's possible in theory to put up an arresting wire across a road for the Finnish Hornets.
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It is the same thing with the Hornet. Finnish Hornets have the landing hooks. It's possible in theory to put up an arresting wire across a road for the Finnish Hornets.
French members can explain better but As far as I know it’s not just about landing distance but operational requirements of carrier based fighters are different than Airforce versions. Even the landing modality is different, like they use arrester hooks, require software changes that makes the whole landing process easier and automated. Take-off and landing on carriers are very complex and maintenance intensive operation.
Airframe needs special treatment to protect for salt corrosion.
Even engines are specially modified to operate in these humid conditions.
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The afterburner won't help with landing
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The afterburner won't help with landing
I doubt either takeoff or landing poses a problem for the F-35A in wartime conditions.
Comfortable margins are required in peacetime, and although it can be a bit expensive, the main bases can be upgraded for it. Stuff like this will have been taken into consideration when costs are tallied.
Yeah well, I still think that the F-35 is out. Of course I could be wrong. We only have to wait a few weeks to get the answer.
That's what I like about the Finnish program. With cost out of the way, the choice will purely be made on technical basis. There isn't better open source information than this.
I doubt the Finnish are gonna reveal a ranking list for obvious reasons, I hope they do, but the winner's gonna be the best jet, it's all that matters.
This is practically a contest between the F-35 B4 and Rafale F4. Typhoon and SH don't cut it, we know that for a fact. Saab claims their new jet with Meteor makes it 80% as capable in BVR as the F-35, which is still an admission that it's inferior to the F-35 in BVR.
Only the Typhoon could bridge the gap quite a bit in A2A with the F-35.
Closer to home, it will help Indian enthusiasts gauge the IAF's capability versus our enemies. I mean, if the Rafale F4.2 is chosen, then the IAF doesn't have as much to worry from a fast advancing PLAAF. If the F-35 is chosen, then we need to see what the margin was, although I think that's not likely to be revealed.
Well I don't think the F-35 is really in the game, I don't think it suits the requirements.
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The only thing that everyone know now is the real price of the f-35 : 110 millions $US and what a surprise that's exactly what everyone say from long time ago except f-35 fanboyista.
We all wait know for the tacair. Will the F-16, F-15 or A-10 really desepear since the f-35 are so multirole ?
With all due respect your logic in why F-18 is better is borderline... well stupid. So because the F-35A MAY need a lil bit longer runway you would rather have a 4th gen fighter (lump in french plane too) that is far less capable and susceptible to Russian IADS and possibly SU-35s over the F-35A? Is that what you're saying?
Clearly you're not a Finish fighter pilot or you wouldn't say such nonsense. Fouth gen fighters are in their twilight years there's a reason why Europe is buying F-35s over the french plane. Start putting on your thinking hat and stop using emotions to do your thinking.
You also need to add pods. ~$10-15m. The IR pod is ~7m, I would think the current targeting pod is similar.
Of course I am not a fighter pilot... I have done eight months of conscript service in a mortar company, a very long time ago. But I have followed the HX process for years. The demand for distributed operations comes from the political level. If the F-35, Rafale and whatever are not suited for it, then it's Gripen all the way. This is just what my intuition is saying after years of reading.
The problem with the F-35 crowd is precisely this: they start with the assumption that F-35 is the best, then it must be that the F-35 is best, and it is the best because it is best. Well maybe so, but if it does not fit the requirements then there will be no buying and selling happening. If it is the "best" but it is not what is required then no.
What we know is that a FMS 2030 price of the F-35 is $110, that would also include the costs accrued, after the 'rolling of the production line, flyaway' cost.
No you are describing the Gripen and french plane crowd. F-35 is the best as far as capabilities for obvious reasons if you want to go into details of the capabilities of the three fighters lets do so but it's not going to look good for the 4th gen fighters including US 4th gen fighters.
You should try reading more
If this is what you think they cost, you need to look at your own ability to analyze costs.
If you don't know how to analyze US defence costing methodology you should probably stop trying at this point. $110 million for procurement cost is superb comparatively, and "fanboyista" keeps getting it right with the F-35 while the French rage post like jealous high school girls, on and on about Switzerland which was a rude awakening to everyone who's brains have been dulled with wine and berets while the F-35 fanboys got it right from the start. Not that we don't enjoy the behavior, much like American liberals half the fun is watching the snowflakes melt, and they don't have an ounce of stoicism, grace, or humility in their blood, it would never occur to them to take their lumps, congratulate the winner (we know the French are capable of collaboration) and quietly improve. instead they advertise the pain for all to see in the most overdramatic painfully performative way possible. The way you "guys" post here desperately seeking validation and attention in attempts to be "edgy" is delightful, it just reeks of bitterness which makes it all the better. Your obsession with F-35 is icing on the cake
i keep trying to emphasize this to randomradio but he can't read apparently. Can you say this with pictures somehow? I tried cute little emoji animals already. Super Hornet is a dead end.
the only reason the hornet is capable of "short take off" is the catapult that launches it off the front of the carrier. As a Canadian I can tell you this has come up a million times, icy runways, runways length, arrested landings, Norway's drag chutes et cetera. its really not the "impact" from super hornet undercarriage landing "hard" that matters. land the aircraft as usual, its the lumps and bumps of the bad road or runway that come after, carrier aircraft don't deal with that stuff. they hardly taxi. and we have seen F-16 do roadside operations before.
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