Jammu & Kashmir live updates: GOI remove all provisions of Article 370

Perhaps singapore's premilenials elected a man (Lee Kuan Yew) who converted a fishing village into financial hub , whereas india's premilenials elected a man who through his socialism policies converted a great civilization into the one which had more poor people than the whole African continent .

No British colonialism did that... I'm sure you know that history
 
Is this including Gilgit-Baltistan?



But I suppose that's at the cost of more casualties on our side, or does it even out?

And also a greater threat of Pakistan using nukes since Punjab is threatened when you go through plains.
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Difficult to predict as depends on opposition and dispersion of assets on own side.Also, individual commander/soldiers abilities to think on feet. More people get killed of own stupidity in war than imaginable.

Follow up question - has the decision been made to do this? If yes why are we waiting for them to initiate rather than acting preemptively?
 
I am interested in knowing given that our military has not executed any such operation recently (last 2 decades) on what basis are these estimations based on ? During kargil , military said they will evict intruders in a week or two then the operation stretched to 3 months.

When you quote Kargil, you need to also always acknowledge the ban on use of Air Fuel Munitions (read: Napalm) and crossing of LC by own troops. This enabled a supply line to be maintained to enemy troops which was always going to take time and higher casualties, to off set.



Even though we conduct wargames/military exercises, simulations...etc we might not have full picture of our own capability & strength vis-a-vis to the enemy.

Out of curiosity I want to turn around the question a bit and ask , as a military person what would be your reaction if a civilian says they can deliver a fighter jet/sub..etc in next year. Would military go to war on the assumption that they will get the promised hardware or would they say we don't believe in bakwas .......:giggle:


Forces will fight with what they have. They will get the stuff as and when they need. Perhaps, this time, we have stuff in already, merely waiting for an opportunity to use it.

But the trends indicate that Government of India opens up the coffers when needed (albeit, a bit late in the day)
 
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Like I said ruling regime and its supporters will come out with various twisted logic, like parliament can legislate on behalf of a state with a legislature (not a UT with legislature)
I am sorry for my twisted logic and words that are actually written in constitution, couldn't muster the courage to quote from thin air, anything, as per my wish and attribute it to constitution and then in every reply tell others how uninformed those fools are.

but those are finer points of some constitutional grey areas.
Yup, couldn't grasp it even if it put all my brain on it.
 
Follow up question - has the decision been made to do this? If yes why are we waiting for them to initiate rather than acting preemptively?

Decision to do something emphatically - yes. Pre-emptively - yes and no.

We will not be the first to cross the Line, neither will we be the last. Make what you can, of this.
 
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Anyway, I've heard that all the fighter jets will be getting new SDRs by next month on an emergency basis.

Is that for avoiding getting caught with our pants down or is sh!t really going down that the IAF is now in a hurry to get the new kit?


How about a third option? Upping the costs while upgunning?
 
Decision to do something emphatically - yes. Pre-emptively - yes and no.

We will not be the first to cross the Line, neither will we be the last. Make what you can, of this.

Do we have that "strategic depth" to do such optics as we did in 71?
 
I'm actually impressed by the way J&K police & CRPF handled the situation. It shows that if hands are not tied, they can prevent any violent revolting efficiently.

The total casualties reported is just 13 pellet injuries,I was expecting casualties to be way higher

I was also monitoring a Kashmiri students private Telegram channel, many of them went to Kashmir valley and came back. All of them reporting that everything is normal, no violence😍😍😍

I had a bad feeling that we may be hiding some violence, but after hearing from Kashmiri students,I am impressed


Some comments

1)"Just reached back Delhi.

Everything is normal and fine in Kashmir."

2)"Yes there was a peaceful protest on eid in chanapora,no violence"

3)"my mom's friend came from Kashmir today she said halat thik hai apart from a couple of protests aur sanatnagar market shaam ko khula hota hai dvai Khana and all sab milta hai the only problem is communication blockade private transport is also plying on the roads though there is no public transport"

4)SHO Nowgam Cell
+9194xxxxx138
"Things are calm over there, movement of traffic is allowed without any hassle"

5)Assalamualaikum, got a call from my uncle & cousin from police station of Rajpora (pulwama)...as per them things are fine in pulwama, could not speak at a length...cos people had qued up to call their relatives on eve of Eid.
Just mentioning the number +9194xxxxxx44, in case it does good for someone
The number is working 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻



No one reported any violence
 
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There is a silver lining to the false propaganda of Pakistan. Other than them, no one believes it. More the fake propaganda, more agitated will be the brain washed population of Pakistan and less manageable will they be for the rulers of Pakistan. They creating problems for themselves with this false propaganda.[/QUOTE/]
Sir do you think will they do a misadventure??
 
There is a silver lining to the false propaganda of Pakistan. Other than them, no one believes it. More the fake propaganda, more agitated will be the brain washed population of Pakistan and less manageable will they be for the rulers of Pakistan. They creating problems for themselves with this false propaganda.

They are already questioning their jernails and politicians.Soon, the jihadis and even soldiers in PA will get restless due to mard-e-momin image of their armed forces
 
I'm actually impressed by the way J&K police & CRPF handled the situation. It shows that if hands are not tied, they can prevent any violent revolting efficiently.

The total casualties reported is just 13 pellet injuries,I was expecting casualties to be way higher

I was also monitoring a Kashmiri students private Telegram channel, many of them went to Kashmir valley and came back. All of them reporting that everything is normal, no violence😍😍😍

I had a bad feeling that we may be hiding some violence, but after hearing from Kashmiri students,I am impressed


Some comments

1)"Just reached back Delhi.

Everything is normal and fine in Kashmir."

2)"Yes there was a peaceful protest on eid in chanapora,no violence"

3)"my mom's friend came from Kashmir today she said halat thik hai apart from a couple of protests aur sanatnagar market shaam ko khula hota hai dvai Khana and all sab milta hai the only problem is communication blockade private transport is also plying on the roads though there is no public transport"

4)SHO Nowgam Cell
+9194xxxxx138
"Things are calm over there, movement of traffic is allowed without any hassle"

5)Assalamualaikum, got a call from my uncle & cousin from police station of Rajpora (pulwama)...as per them things are fine in pulwama, could not speak at a length...cos people had qued up to call their relatives on eve of Eid.
Just mentioning the number +9194xxxxxx44, in case it does good for someone
The number is working 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻



No one reported any violence
Nah this is all hogwash, Kashmiris are actually picking up guns en masse because this is first thing common people do. Once they get a right that empowers them first thing that common people do is pick guns and start violence.

You are hiding true facts, any chance you are from propaganda wing of BJP and Modi? Things don't add up, I am suspicious.
 
I am sorry for my twisted logic and words that are actually written in constitution, couldn't muster the courage to quote from thin air, anything, as per my wish and attribute it to constitution and then in every reply tell others how uninformed those fools are.


Yup, couldn't grasp it even if it put all my brain on it.

I'm willing to concede that govt, at least they believe and you concur, that they may manage to find a grey area in the constitution to pull of the 'coup'. We will have to wait for the the SC to decide whether it was a valid amendment or skulduggery. However I hope you have the humility to admit that my questioning of the 'coup' was equally valid and 'not beyond' anything laid out in the constitution.