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India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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He says Katasraj temple. Has Baba gone nuts? The temple's very well inside Pakistan.
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I don't think you guys have been paying too much attention to what @Falcon has been repeatedly emphasising. This is going to be a localised engagement for the foreseeable future. The aim is to bleed Pakistan without doing too much. The big bang game we were expecting ended on 27th Feb.
The only way it'd resume is if there is another Pulwama or a big misadventure by Pakistan on the LoC. Sans that we will, in all probability , continue our incremental advance west wards taking one BOP at a time, straightening out the border not moving more than 0.5-1.0 kms westward.
All the rest is merely to be taken with a pinch of salt or for entertainment.
I think all these OSINT are baba's students..they post the tweet after baba posted the tweet...
I think i am reading too much bullshit on SM
here goes my prediction
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This cold start thing is psyops.We are not going to invade pakistan.These formations are there to tie down pak forces on border,putting more pressure on economy due to deployed state and also keeping them away from balochistan and kpk.
Meanwhile we will 'rationalize' LOC nibbling where we please with firepower.This steady attrition will combine with the relentless BLA attacks in balochistan to demoralize PA and impose the human cost.
Meanwhile IAF keeps the PAF at alert and eats up more funds.
With economic state and looming FATF blacklist ,and debt commitments we want them to committ to more nuke bombs and conventional arms to match us and end up doing a soviet union.If they sought to bleed us with a thousand cuts we will bleed them with ten thousand.
The only way out for them would be to dismantle terror sponsor strategy,but that will be too much for the ego and fanaticism of the jernails so at max they might try a temporary pause to get recovery time.Then startup again in a few years.We musn't allow this unless they do 'irreversible ' action.But if they do that it would be tantamount to an end of 30 years of pak grand strategy,basically signal internally the end to their kashmir quest and cause a blowback.So they cant really do that.
We will continue to do this endlessly as we have the resources for it provided political will at centre persists(most important).The conventional military balance will continue to shift irreversibly in our favour - new guns,body armour,artillery,radars,istar aircraft,gunships,s-400,mrsam,rafales.By 2022 end our qualitative superiority(important in skirmishes) will be decisive on all fronts.(right now its marginal qualitative superiority and decisive quantitative superiority).
Let the attrition continue.We will not invade pakistan,we will beseige it.
Meanwhile we will 'rationalize' LOC nibbling where we please with firepower.This steady attrition will combine with the relentless BLA attacks in balochistan to demoralize PA and impose the human cost.
Meanwhile IAF keeps the PAF at alert and eats up more funds.
With economic state and looming FATF blacklist ,and debt commitments we want them to committ to more nuke bombs and conventional arms to match us and end up doing a soviet union.If they sought to bleed us with a thousand cuts we will bleed them with ten thousand.
The only way out for them would be to dismantle terror sponsor strategy,but that will be too much for the ego and fanaticism of the jernails so at max they might try a temporary pause to get recovery time.Then startup again in a few years.We musn't allow this unless they do 'irreversible ' action.But if they do that it would be tantamount to an end of 30 years of pak grand strategy,basically signal internally the end to their kashmir quest and cause a blowback.So they cant really do that.
We will continue to do this endlessly as we have the resources for it provided political will at centre persists(most important).The conventional military balance will continue to shift irreversibly in our favour - new guns,body armour,artillery,radars,istar aircraft,gunships,s-400,mrsam,rafales.By 2022 end our qualitative superiority(important in skirmishes) will be decisive on all fronts.(right now its marginal qualitative superiority and decisive quantitative superiority).
Let the attrition continue.We will not invade pakistan,we will beseige it.
For the sake of clarity, have divided your statement above into two points. Bear with me. For:
1. Precisely. The question is indeed as to why they are silently sitting. The answer is, they are not, but they have very few options and every one of those options results in their expanding the conflict, which is precisely playing to India's strengths. It is, as the picture over the past 308 pages and counting would have indicated, a situation which is unenviable. Historically, India has never attacked Pakistan overtly. This time too, India is not attacking Pakistan, merely the terrorists that originate from it's territories. Every attempt at ingression from their side, policy shift dictates that the Pakistani Posts in the region are to be considered as supporters of terrorists and to be dealt with accordingly. The only option, as you rightly pointed out, for them is to come out swinging, and that is precisely what we want.
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2. Here, I will again reiterate that unlike what the perception here seems to predominate, probably because of the inherent need to feel some kind of satisfaction from 'punishing' a terror supporter, there has been no major shift in the military positions across LC with any kind of capture of enemy territories. Selectively, points that were held by the opposite sides, were either neutralized, occupied or positions adjusted along LC in quite a few places that allowed us to establish arcs of fire that preclude permanent stationing of troops by enemy in the selected areas. This has enabled exploitation of situation to gain tactical advantages. This does not mean that we have not occupied a few points previously held by PA, but merely means that we have simply adjusted our positions with an aim to deny enemy the free passage in the areas we have acted. As most of the places involve contiguous ridges, we have, in short, occupied points along contiguous ridges, in the process eliminating and destroying posts of the enemy and forcing them to vacate entire stretches.
Now coming to the problem of the twitter handle oft quoted here. Note this tweet:
Now see this tweet by Neeraj Rajput:
If you analyze the two tweets, you shall be able to appreciate that rather than any territorial gain, the logical conclusion of what I have averred to in point no 2, is but a given.
It is precisely this point that I am trying to drive in here, that do not misinterpret what the Baba handle is saying. Things do not add up when imaginations go wild.
Sorry to say, the specific concerned people tried level best to not move out from Chandigarh where they are located at the Airport Road. Since Army is operational in that region and the extended line of communication resulted in a rather sluggish command and control of ITBP troops operating in Leh, Army asked for operational control like its with BSF in valley. The leadership at ITBP was then prodded by the Government to move.
The 'bitter facts' are there in the second half itself.
This is a major problem afflicting the Paramilitary forces manned by IPS cadres like BSF and ITBP - the officer cadre is usually found sitting in rear. Very few officers would be found sitting forward with their men. This needs an urgent relook.
Well, strategic thought in India and especially in civilian government is simply this much : They want India to hold on to the territory which she is having. Territorial gain is not Indian position, at least for the time being. If one understands this much, then IMHO, rest follows. Unlike yahoos of Pakistan, IA is a through professional organization which operate under and with a specific civilian agenda: To safeguard India's territorial integrity.
So, the 'changes' in LoC will be tactical in nature. Obviously. Things like posts and locations which allow easy sniping for PA will be 'adjusted'. Things like positions which allow PA to bombard Indian defences to draw away BSF's attention will be 'adjusted'. If not anything, it will force PA to recalculate its requirements. The equipment which possibly made their operations feasible will now need to be upgraded or replaced. The tactics which used to work over last so many decades will now need to be redeveloped. It will be burdensome on enemy.
Interestingly though not surprisingly, it still keeps the strategic situation identical. India will still control as much Kashmir as she was in past so many decades. That is not changing anytime soon. The reason why India can change tactical situation almost on-demand is because of India's relative strength over Pakistan. That said, this strength is still not great enough to simply make a strategic change in the situation on-demand.
Even more interestingly, vis-a-vis China, even with all their growth, Chinese cann't do either. Atleast on-demand. All they have is a force superiority over India. Its neither tactically overpowering and certainly not strategically dominating. To a large extent, we should thank Himalaya for that.
Twitter is full of Indians making all sorts of delicious theories (read lies) to try and prove India won.
Fact remains that we daily kill Indian soldiers on LOC, of course India does the same.
Indian Air superiority Complex came crashing down on 27th in many forms.
PAF shot down two Indian jets. Targeted six military installations inside IOK. Also India shot one of their own helicopter killing own soldiers.
So Pakistan has won.
However even if India claims parity with Pakistan that they caused equal damage, that is a defeat for India.
How can a 7 times smaller country in land mass.. 6 times smaller in population, many times smaller in economy, and having no or little diplomatic support country Pakistan, cause equal military damage to India.
That in itself is Indian defeat.
Fact remains that we daily kill Indian soldiers on LOC, of course India does the same.
Indian Air superiority Complex came crashing down on 27th in many forms.
PAF shot down two Indian jets. Targeted six military installations inside IOK. Also India shot one of their own helicopter killing own soldiers.
So Pakistan has won.
However even if India claims parity with Pakistan that they caused equal damage, that is a defeat for India.
How can a 7 times smaller country in land mass.. 6 times smaller in population, many times smaller in economy, and having no or little diplomatic support country Pakistan, cause equal military damage to India.
That in itself is Indian defeat.
What strategic objectives Pakistan achieved? Any change in LoC? Did you prevented any change in LoC? --Hint it was not even attempted-- If nothing then what is victory?
India was not even fighting a war to be honest. We were merely hitting terrorists. And that we did. Even your atomic weapons failed to keep India at bay. India's victory is in setting a precedent that India can bomb targets inside Pakistan whenever it want. And Pakistan cann't stop that using Atom bomb. Thats what was the goal India achieved. And of-course, few hundred dead yahoos are not bad too..
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I once dented a US Army vehicle on road. I must have caused military damage to US. So, US is now challenged by an individual. Great!
What 'military damage' has Pakistan caused to India honestly? Your own Gafoora was saying that they removed fuses of laser guided bombs. All you did was to shoot down a Mig-21. We shot down a F-16.
Actually, I will not even say shooting down a F-16 is any kind of real military damage... You want to know what is real military damage?
You won't get any spares for F-16s. Thats the real damage. Good luck keeping them flying in few years time. And good luck buying new jets whit the shitty economy you have now.
Oh and the icing. Since US is withdrawing from Afghanistan, you have no leverage left on the US. Your crown jewel of PAF is broken.
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A small mosquito can cause dengue. That is its sole reason for existence. Nothing else. It causes harm to some humans even death in some cases. Lets call it a defeat for the entire human race. Right?
That is what you are. An inconsequential mosquito. India prospered despite your efforts. While you struggle with the same problems you were fighting 20 years ago. Seriously you guys are a sorry mess.
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