Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

jetray

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INR 400 per dose is NOT profiteering. They have to operate BSL3 labs to produce this vaccine.
More they manufacture lesser should become the price. We are talking about atleast 500 million doses or more, they will break even soon or later.
Astra -zeneca is estimated to be $3-4 not more than that. They are welcome to increase the cost once the pandemic is over. Normal flu vaccine manufactured per year is 1.4 billion doses again which depends on the demand but covid vaccine is guaranteed to sell and price should not change.
 

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More they manufacture lesser should become the price. We are talking about atleast 500 million doses or more, they will break even soon or later.
Astra -zeneca is estimated to be $3-4 not more than that. They are welcome to increase the cost once the pandemic is over. Normal flu vaccine manufactured per year is 1.4 billion doses again which depends on the demand but covid vaccine is guaranteed to sell and price should not change.

It's not that simple though. We do not know how long the protection will last. And we do not know if Covid will become a long term threat like the flu.

If the vaccines, along with a potential booster dose, provide protection for 1 to 3 years at best, then the govt needs to immunise the population all over again every few years.
 
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Astra -zeneca is estimated to be $3-4 not more than that. They are welcome to increase the cost once the pandemic is over. Normal flu vaccine manufactured per year is 1.4 billion doses again which depends on the demand but covid vaccine is guaranteed to sell and price should not change.
AstraZenca prices are all over landscape.
US/EU got it for $3-$4. This is because they signed contracts and paid even before the vaccine had completed trials.
UK got the best price of $2.52 for the same reason.

South Africa for instance got a price of $5.25 or something similar.
Canada got it for $8.18 because they ordered it late.

Centre got it for INR 150 because there was an agreement to buy it before it was approved. The agreement was for some 30 million doses or so IIRC.
400 INR is about $5.42, right about what South Africa is paying. States are ordering late and when we know vaccine is effective.

Price is a function of risk. If you order something at risk, you get better prices. Is it really rocket science to media and our people?

Modi administration's stupidity was to NOT order 1 billion doses from the start with an option to buy another 1 billion doses later with prioirty.
at USD 2 per dose it would have been an order of $2 billion. Hardly a price that India cannot afford. After all we spend so much elsewhere. If India were ordering this much, it could have negotiated a slightly better deal on another alternative vaccine in case this one bombs. Say on Russian Gamalaya vaccine? Most likely they could have repurposed the same production facility to produce Sputnik-V vaccine.

With 2 billion dollars, SII would have scaled its production capacity a lot.
 
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AstraZenca prices are all over landscape.
US/EU got it for $3-$4. This is because they signed contracts and paid even before the vaccine had completed trials.
UK got the best price of $2.52 for the same reason.

South Africa for instance got a price of $5.25 or something similar.
Canada got it for $8.18 because they ordered it late.

Centre got it for INR 150 because there was an agreement to buy it before it was approved. The agreement was for some 30 million doses or so IIRC.
400 INR is about $5.42, right about what South Africa is paying. States are ordering late and when we know vaccine is effective.

Price is a function of risk. If you order something at risk, you get better prices. Is it really rocket science to media and our people?

Modi administration's stupidity was to NOT order 1 billion doses from the start with an option to buy another 1 billion doses later with prioirty.
at USD 2 per dose it would have been an order of $2 billion. Hardly a price that India cannot afford. After all we spend so much elsewhere. If India were ordering this much, it could have negotiated a slightly better deal on another alternative vaccine in case this one bombs. Say on Russian Gamalaya vaccine? Most likely they could have repurposed the same production facility to produce Sputnik-V vaccine.

With 2 billion dollars, SII would have scaled its production capacity a lot.

Centre got it at 150 because Gujarat did upfront fund
You have mistaken India with China.

EMERGENCY IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CONSTITUTION. THEY DIDN'T PUT IT THERE AS SHOWPIECE BUT USE IT WHEN NEEDED.
 

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Centre got it at 150 because Gujarat did upfront fund


EMERGENCY IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CONSTITUTION. THEY DIDN'T PUT IT THERE AS SHOWPIECE BUT USE IT WHEN NEEDED.

Emergency can only be used
In case of External Aggression AND / OR Internal armed Rebellion

The Nation wide lockdown imposed last year was a smaller version of emergency

But it led to migrant labour getting stranded and unemployed and unable to even reach back to their villages

After a year of living with Covid , it was well known to the public at large that we can prevent it by masks and social distancing

If people did not take precautions , it is their fault

Government's Mistakes are on Two levels , Vaccines and Oxygen
 

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Emergency can only be used
In case of External Aggression AND / OR Internal armed Rebellion

The Nation wide lockdown imposed last year was a smaller version of emergency

But it led to migrant labour getting stranded and unemployed and unable to even reach back to their villages

After a year of living with Covid , it was well known to the public at large that we can prevent it by masks and social distancing

If people did not take precautions , it is their fault

Government's Mistakes are on Two levels , Vaccines and Oxygen

It is clearly internal armed rebellion that is happening.

Modiji is very clever.

He campaigned like mad in Bengal so that a BJP govt can come to power and no emergency can be imposed. But now that stupidity has prevailed, Modi must impose National Emergency, remove mamta and lead COVID in full form. It is constitutionally valid.
 

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Only if coronavirus is determined to be a citizen of India and is rebelling against the constitution.

Nonsense. Anything that endangers the safety and security of state is an emergency. If a terrorist blows up a nuclear bomb, automatically India will go into a state of emergency.
Emergency can only be used
In case of External Aggression AND / OR Internal armed Rebellion

The Nation wide lockdown imposed last year was a smaller version of emergency

But it led to migrant labour getting stranded and unemployed and unable to even reach back to their villages

After a year of living with Covid , it was well known to the public at large that we can prevent it by masks and social distancing

If people did not take precautions , it is their fault

Government's Mistakes are on Two levels , Vaccines and Oxygen

Mamta is doing internal armed rebellion. mamta+ corona= maro na.