Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

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China has been telling lies the virus must have escaped from their Biological Warfare laboratory at Wuhan. The agent had escaped in Sept 2018. Three known varieties have come in public domain MERS, SARS and CORONOVIRUS. Coronavirus is best delivered as an aerosol ideal for battle field.
 

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China has been telling lies the virus must have escaped from their Biological Warfare laboratory at Wuhan. The agent had escaped in Sept 2018. Three known varieties have come in public domain MERS, SARS and CORONOVIRUS. Coronavirus is best delivered as an aerosol ideal for battle field.

Which agent are you talking about? Are you pointing to the Virus itself or are you pointing towards a covert action by an enemy country? And did you really mean Sept 2018 or was it a typo and you meant Sept 2019? If it is indeed Sept 2018, I doubt that it has taken almost 15 months to get to its first victim in Dec 2019?

It's full blown incubation period is 14 days and the cases are doubling every 3.5 days. Also, some estimates speak of several hundreds being cremated every day in just one single crematorium. So the death toll is almost close to 50k as opposed to some 900 officially admitted. And almost half billion people in China are under lock down.
 

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Level 4/5 bio labs are very difficult to breach

( India has similar labs , just don't know where. Stores of hard to find viruses for R&D )

Multiple close circuit air circulation systems , 100% redundancy.

Automatic scrubbers working 24/7 at different tiers

Core has emergency burners installed , on activation burns air and everything inside to contain leaks

Even containment doors are interlocking to prevent leakage during ingress or exit of personnel, time pads including.

Also human made bioagents are made through splicing , UV and phenol etc treatment . So tell tale signs of modification is always there , any competent lab on bio analysis will be able to pinpoint bioengineering.


Whenever a weapon grade bioagent is engineered , concurrently a weakened strain of the same is engineered as a failsafe . It is the SOP during bio agent development unless one is hellbent on suicide.

The weakened strain is used to develop the antidote , own troops are innoculated against the weapon grade bioagent through the weakened strain , working principle same as anti venom of snake.

Primarily bioagent like viruses and certain biotoxins have a oxidation life , where a weapon grade virus after breaking dormancy losses virulence after a fixed time period so that own troops can move in. However to cater for any unexpected behaviour ( natural mutation ) of bio agent after release , own troops are also innoculated via the weakened strain to develop immunity .

There are different types of bioagents so expect some diffence in offensive and defensive measures.
 
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Narendar Singh

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Which agent are you talking about? Are you pointing to the Virus itself or are you pointing towards a covert action by an enemy country? And did you really mean Sept 2018 or was it a typo and you meant Sept 2019? If it is indeed Sept 2018, I doubt that it has taken almost 15 months to get to its first victim in Dec 2019?

It's full blown incubation period is 14 days and the cases are doubling every 3.5 days. Also, some estimates speak of several hundreds being cremated every day in just one single crematorium. So the death toll is almost close to 50k as opposed to some 900 officially admitted. And almost half billion people in China are under lock down.
 

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It is September 2018. The Coronavirus in news today. It is similar to MERS and SARS. Milder form. The Virus is imbedded in droplets and affects through inhalation. The agent affected the water and then in turn it spread in unsuspecting population. The incubation period was long primarily due weather conditions.
 
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Narendar Singh

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Level 4/5 bio labs are very difficult to breach

( India has similar labs , just don't know where. Stores of hard to find viruses for R&D )

Multiple close circuit air circulation systems , 100% redundancy.

Automatic scrubbers working 24/7 at different tiers

Core has emergency burners installed , on activation burns air and everything inside to contain leaks

Even containment doors are interlocking to prevent leakage during ingress or exit of personnel, time pads including.

Also human made bioagents are made through splicing , UV and phenol etc treatment . So tell tale signs of modification is always there , any competent lab on bio analysis will be able to pinpoint bioengineering.


Whenever a weapon grade bioagent is engineered , concurrently a weakened strain of the same is engineered as a failsafe . It is the SOP during bio agent development unless one is hellbent on suicide.

The weakened strain is used to develop the antidote , own troops are innoculated against the weapon grade bioagent through the weakened strain , working principle same as anti venom of snake.

Primarily bioagent like viruses and certain biotoxins have a oxidation life , where a weapon grade virus after breaking dormancy losses virulence after a fixed time period so that own troops can move in. However to cater for any unexpected behaviour ( natural mutation ) of bio agent after release , own troops are also innoculated via the weakened strain to develop immunity .

There are different types of bioagents so expect some diffence in offensive and defensive measures.
 

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India is one of the five major countries in Research and under BW Convention has retained the right to produce anti dotes. The five countries in Research are US, Russia, India, North Korea, China. It appears you have great knowledge of lab. But there are no fool proof system. Accidents can happen. I have been putting this out since September 2018 that accident has occurred at Wuhan.
 
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Wuhan Virus is a man made virus which escaped and took time to spread. It is mildest form of the group of viruses. But difficult to beat as it is imbedded in water droplets. Affects rapidly through inhalation. The accident took place sometime in September 2018.

The Chinese are worse than Africans when it comes to bush meat - they will eat just about anything that has life. Quite likely the 2019-nCOR originated from bats, as it has been shown. Even the MERS virus is thought to have come from bats that passed it on to camels. Bats are a flying petri-dish because of their immuno-ability to suppress pathogens. The anti-inflammatory proteins are thought to negate the effects of viruses. Moreover, the breeding location of bats in moist caves with tonnes of organic decomposing matter is another reason why they harbor thousands of parasites and viruses. The report from IITD is leery.
 

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The Chinese are worse than Africans when it comes to bush meat - they will eat just about anything that has life. Quite likely the 2019-nCOR originated from bats, as it has been shown. Even the MERS virus is thought to have come from bats that passed it on to camels. Bats are a flying petri-dish because of their immuno-ability to suppress pathogens. The anti-inflammatory proteins are thought to negate the effects of viruses. Moreover, the breeding location of bats in moist caves with tonnes of organic decomposing matter is another reason why they harbor thousands of parasites and viruses. The report from IITD is leery.
 

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A view point accusing America for Coronavirus and SARS, etc by pointing out that most deaths have been Chinese race because it was bioengineered against them. From globalresearch.ca:

In China, where by now scientific evidence is mounting that the disease – like all the coronaviral diseases, including the 2019-nCoV predecessor SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, 2002 / 2003 also in China), and its Middle East equivalent, MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) are not only laboratory fabricated, but also patented. And so are many others, for example, Ebola and HIV. Both, SARS and 2019-nCoV are not only man-made, but they are also focusing on the Chinese race. That’s why you find very few people infected in the 18 countries where the coronavirus has spread.
It sounds like a strange coincidence that in October 2019 a simulation with precisely the coronavirus was carried out at the John Hopkins Institute in the US, funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the WEF (World Economic Forum), as well as the Pirbright Institute of the UK, one of the world’s few level 4 (highest security level) bio-warfare laboratories

More details:
China's Coronavirus: A Global Health Emergency is Launched. What are the Facts - Global Research
 

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SARS outbreak was also a specie of coronavirus... so no surprises ....
My point is it is more contagious among the chinese than any ther rae, which points to a genetically engineered virus that targets Chinese genotypes. Maybe the Chinese were not weaponizing it, but rather investigating it to create antidote and reveal its origins. Maybe the Canadians developed it in their lab and Chinese stole it to create antidote.
 

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India is one of the five major countries in Research and under BW Convention has retained the right to produce anti dotes. The five countries in Research are US, Russia, India, North Korea, China. It appears you have great knowledge of lab. But there are no fool proof system. Accidents can happen. I have been putting this out since September 2018 that accident has occurred at Wuhan.

Yes accidents can happen

It is only prudent we keep all options open when discussing an event on which we don't have on eyes information.

Viruses are very difficult to contain especially during testing on live subjects.

It is possible Chinese were testing them on prisoners etc and since the test subjects were unwilling , they might have found ways to spread it . Unwilling tests subjects are not exactly patriotic are they . Psychology of patients is a determining factor .

Even what seems possible was that the Chinese were not testing the virus perse but the weakened strain " antidote " on human test subjects . Extract test data to ensure Chinese people across all age and ethnic classes are immune to the original weapongrade virus .

Americans did the same in the 50 and 60s including Soviets.

Hence the so called evidence that the released " strain " of weakened virus containing bio engineered instructions to effect Chinese ethnicity. This corona virus could possibly be the weakened strain ie antidote of the original biowarfare virus which was designed to protect the Chinese population but was either badly engineered or which mutated on/off test hosts to become deadly and virulent . So instead of granting immunity it is wrecking havock on the people with chinese genealogy. Just imagine the havoc the actual biowarfare virus would do.

One tablespoon of pure refined virus with 100% virulence is enough to wipe out entire human population within one month if weather conditions favours it's spread.

Greenish molds on bread , visually same , refined and lab produced virus in bulk is like that in appearance, albeit powdery but generally white in colour.

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Biowarfare agents not nukes are the final guarantors of sovereignty
If the Chinese took the risk inspite of all their firepower , they must have solid reasons to do so. An important point we all are missing. Does India have reasons to worry.

The West especially Canada and UK is the proxy of US for R&D on offensive bioweapons.
The west have been waging biowarfare on other nations since long , bio engineered crops etc is just a tip of the iceberg . Por........ ISI banned the same , but did we ?

Anyways bioweapons in west have come a long way , reasons to believe they are safe to operate and very target specific .

There was something I wanted to discuss but open forums are not suited for it.
 
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hellbent

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India is one of the five major countries in Research and under BW Convention has retained the right to produce anti dotes. The five countries in Research are US, Russia, India, North Korea, China. It appears you have great knowledge of lab. But there are no fool proof system. Accidents can happen. I have been putting this out since September 2018 that accident has occurred at Wuhan.

Something I forgot to add

September 2018 incident at Wuhan makes it more or less a open shut case. Never knew about it .

Anyways I remember sort of that Americans / UK and Soviets sourced some samples of a perticular virus from india before it was completely eradicated decades ago