ADA AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

T

Tarun

HAL AMCA (Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft) 5th Generation Fighter Concept

Updated: 10/24/2017; Authored By Staff Writer; Content ©www.MilitaryFactory.com

HAL AMCA (Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft)


The Indian Air Force and Navy are studying the feasibility of an indigenously-designed Fifth Generation Fighter concept through the AMCA.



India plans to join other military powers - namely the United States, Russia, and (possibly) China - as operators of the only Fifth Generation Fighters in the world. The program is the "Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft" (AMCA) and its finalized form was unveiled during Aero India 2013. As with other 5th Gen types in-the-works (the Sukhoi PAK-FA T-50) or already in existence (the Lockheed F-22 Lightning II), the AMCA will feature a twin-engine, single-seat layout with a diamond-shaped planform and an internal weapons bay. Stealth features will be inherent. The aircraft will be of the "multirole" requirement allowing it to tackle both air-to-air and air-to-ground operations with equal lethality. Much of the work and material will be devised and arranged in India to promote less reliance on outside help. The AMCA represents a chance to secure an indigenous Indian 5th Gen mount - unlike the joint HAL-Sukhoi initiative that is set to produce the "FGFA" aircraft detailed elsewhere on this site. This multi-role fighter is expected as a two-seat derivative of the in-development Russian Sukhoi T-50.

Indian aero-industry further hopes to secure several related developments that will play a vital role in seeing the AMCA come to fruition. These include indigenous fly-by-wire with triple redundancy and digital flight assistance, advanced cockpit displays, and advanced radar-defeating/reducing components and structures. Of course a powerful AESA radar (Active, Electronically-Scanned Array) will feature prominently into the design plans - the new standard in multirole aircraft radar systems.

The last iteration of the AMCA sees a design not unlike the F-22 with a faceted shape making up the fuselage. The single-seat cockpit will seat behind a short nose cone assembly with angled, rectangular intakes fitted to either side and aft of the cockpit position. These openings will aspirate the twin turbofan engine arrangement found at the extreme aft section of the aircraft, arranged in a side-by-side formation. The main wingplanes will be set a midships and aft while being completed in a symmetrical trapezoidal form. The horizontal tailplanes will be featured directly aft of the mainplanes. The aircraft will make use of a twin vertical tail fin configuration. Its weapons bay will be installed at the airframe's center mass, slightly ahead of midships. It is not out of scope to assume that the AMCA will also hold provision for mounting external ordnance to expand its mission roles - though at the expense of some stealth coverage.

Power is expected from 2 x GTRE GTX-35VS "Kaveri" NG turbofans with vectored nozzles for extreme agility. Total output thrust is rated at 12,130lbs each on dry and 20,230lbs of thrust with afterburner engaged. The engine is currently in development and under the direction of the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE).

Development of the AMCA is to reach into 2018 which, at that point, a flyable prototype may become ready. Development will undoubtedly be long and arduous for the growing Indian aero-industry meaning that operational service of the aircraft would not begin until sometime around 2025 or even later. The end-product would go on to serve both the Indian Air Force and Navy. Some delays in the program have already been noted primarily due to the protracted development of the "Light Combat Aircraft" (LCA) program - this having produced the HAL "Tejas" fighter.

In February of 2015 it was announced that the AMCA team had finalized the AMCA's design. Its weight is expected to be between 45,000 lb and 55,000 lb. A twin-engine configuration is expected utilizing General Electric powerplants (possible a modified F414 series) of at least 24,700 lb thrust each. The cost of development is now estimated at $3.2 billion USD though it has not gained government approval to this point.

March 2017 - The external design of the AMCA has been finalized to include a twin tail, twin engine configuration. All other aspects are typical of 5th Generation fighter types like the Lockheed F-22 Raptor. A first-flight is scheduled for sometime in 2024 with service introduction planned for around 2030.
 

Bon Plan

Well-Known member
Dec 1, 2017
1,510
593
France
Power is expected from 2 x GTRE GTX-35VS "Kaveri" NG turbofans with vectored nozzles for extreme agility. Total output thrust is rated at 12,130lbs each on dry and 20,230lbs of thrust with afterburner engaged. The engine is currently in development and under the direction of the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE).
Yes.
with some help from SAFRAN.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Aditya

Bon Plan

Well-Known member
Dec 1, 2017
1,510
593
France
I hope to god we don't depend on Kavri's success for first flight. PLease work with an established plant and modify for kaveri when it is ready.
I think the Safran plan is to deliver an airworthy Kaveri for 2019. More than enough to be used for AMCA.
 

Kshithij Sharma

Well-Known member
Dec 4, 2017
756
551
India
I think the Safran plan is to deliver an airworthy Kaveri for 2019. More than enough to be used for AMCA.
Prototype and first flight is done with reliable engine and not engine that is not fully proven. Even if Kaveri is ready by 2019, the first prototype of AMCA may use F414
 
  • Like
Reactions: Angel Eyes

Bon Plan

Well-Known member
Dec 1, 2017
1,510
593
France
Prototype and first flight is done with reliable engine and not engine that is not fully proven. Even if Kaveri is ready by 2019, the first prototype of AMCA may use F414
When do you think AMCA will have its first flight ?
Not in 2019.
2025 more or less at best. At those time Kaveri will be mature.
 

Pundrick

Well-Known member
Dec 2, 2017
335
354
Just In LCA Tejas MK2 and AMCA Sanctioned by Government. Funds to be released soon.............:):):):)
Very happy with your postwa, but where is the sourcewa ?? :unsure::unsure::unsure:
Though, not very optimistic with the progress made on the AMCA front. MK2 looks in advanced stage of designing & production with prototype stage to be commenced once MK1A become a mature product.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Aravind and Aditya

Kshithij Sharma

Well-Known member
Dec 4, 2017
756
551
India
When do you think AMCA will have its first flight ?
Not in 2019.
2025 more or less at best. At those time Kaveri will be mature.
I am not sure when first flight will be as first flight is generally run on a prototype and can even be manual controls without much FBW, aluminium frame etc. First flight is done on basically just the design rather than the components after preliminary design review.

The final design completion may be 2024-25 but first flight is likely to be earlier - 2020-2021. I am doubtful if Kaveri will be used in such a stage when it is not fully considered as reliable
 

Guynextdoor

Banned
Dec 19, 2017
3,949
1,031
India
I am not sure when first flight will be as first flight is generally run on a prototype and can even be manual controls without much FBW, aluminium frame etc. First flight is done on basically just the design rather than the components after preliminary design review.

The final design completion may be 2024-25 but first flight is likely to be earlier - 2020-2021. I am doubtful if Kaveri will be used in such a stage when it is not fully considered as reliable
Highly unlikely. I haven’t even seen a full scale mock-up yet.
 

Bon Plan

Well-Known member
Dec 1, 2017
1,510
593
France
I am not sure when first flight will be as first flight is generally run on a prototype and can even be manual controls without much FBW, aluminium frame etc. First flight is done on basically just the design rather than the components after preliminary design review.

The final design completion may be 2024-25 but first flight is likely to be earlier - 2020-2021. I am doubtful if Kaveri will be used in such a stage when it is not fully considered as reliable
You are very (too?) optimistic.

The indian aeronautic projects are not known to be on time.
Even the best (Boeing, LM, Dassault) need at least 3 to 4 year to built a new plane, and they probably have worked hard on it before, for reducing some risk.

So 2021 is more than a challenge.
 

Kshithij Sharma

Well-Known member
Dec 4, 2017
756
551
India
You are very (too?) optimistic.

The indian aeronautic projects are not known to be on time.
Even the best (Boeing, LM, Dassault) need at least 3 to 4 year to built a new plane, and they probably have worked hard on it before, for reducing some risk.

So 2021 is more than a challenge.
The sanction is for prototype construction. Preliminary design Review stage is over. AMCA is not a new project.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Shekhar Singh