India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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thinkingcap81 said:
Our army chief has also stopped threatening Pakistan. There's more to the whole thing than meets the eye. A possibility is that both sides have decided to not publicize actions, if any. @vstol Jockey had also said this.
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If thats the case we should believe what the ISPR put out claiming HEAVY SHELLING and casualties at our end on the 27th night
they put that in their official release, there is nothing going on, we'd know tbh, you think all the noise wont have its leaks
honey trapped soldiers coming out of every corner and indian journos like shiv wont get a source to verify ?
 
panzerdad said:
Yeah Nukes, we totally hit them with cruise missiles that left "ink blotches" on a map
Cruise missiles can be intercepted, thats why they own SAMs and AD's
Its the same reason why WE ARE PUSHING FOR s400s right now, to push back on the nuke threat

Also youre missing a LOT of the data cause youre avoiding it, each time gaffe-oor speaks, hes says nukes for deterrence
his repetition is clear indication

Then the CIA asset spying on their nukes is commissioned to death ? because he leaked info - "no nukes" ?
add this up please ?
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If you think that an open and full fledged
War is the way to Go , I dont think so

These Low level , Low Intensity
But Random and Unpredictable Attacks
Which Baba talks about are
More Disruptive and cause a lot of Chaos and confusion

Because the Cost of Operational
prepared ness becomes much higher

The material and human loss are in addition to it
 
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panzerdad said:
If thats the case we should believe what the ISPR put out claiming HEAVY SHELLING and casualties at our end on the 27th night
they put that in their official release, there is nothing going on, we'd know tbh, you think all the noise wont have its leaks
honey trapped soldiers coming out of every corner and indian journos like shiv wont get a source to verify ?
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I meant small scale actions, and not the kind of stuff that baba and ISPR post. More than this i want to know the dynamics of the deescalation - what has happened and what is going on behind the scenes? Have both sides temporarily stepped back?
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
If you think that an open and full fledged
War is the way to Go , I dont think so

These Low level , Low Intensity
But Random and Unpredictable Attacks
Which Baba talks about are
More Disruptive and cause a lot of Chaos and confusion

Because the Cost of Operational
prepared ness becomes much higher

The material and human loss are in addition to it
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So i guess we're talking on similar lines in terms of him being unreliable

coming to other details, we're currently playing a gandhian approach to our retaliation i see
were baiting them, internal issues are hurting us as well, what i think we're doing is revamping, there are tunnels being set up
near the LOC, were fixing our AD's and running drills, we arent hurting them for now, we're fixing us.

There were BIG breaches that allowed for our embarrassment on the 27th, from them knowing callsigns, breaching interpersonal data streams
to on ground assets helping them with the strike, there is a huge sanitization drive on.

Let me illustrate, when a VA enters a non peace zone, IAF/IA/LP all are made aware, the PA found that info somehow
and went to drop cotton balls near the VA's position, green flagged by their element on ground indicating the VA being mobile
IA MI must be working round the clock to sanitise all this.

CFV wise we can only operate at them via the LOC, IB would cause issues for us as well, the LOC right now with no snow is
open for them to monitor, they are on alert as well as us, they fire almost every 4th day, we retaliate
Are we crossing over, i doubt it, theyve moved enough AD up there to find paper planes as well, can we be funding proxies to do our work
now that is a theory i would love to float
 
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thinkingcap81 said:
I meant small scale actions, and not the kind of stuff that baba and ISPR post. More than this i want to know the dynamics of the deescalation - what has happened and what is going on behind the scenes? Have both sides temporarily stepped back?
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panzerdad said:
So i guess we're talking on similar lines in terms of him being unreliable

coming to other details, we're currently playing a gandhian approach to our retaliation i see
were baiting them, internal issues are hurting us as well, what i think we're doing is revamping, there are tunnels being set up
near the LOC, were fixing our AD's and running drills, we arent hurting them for now, we're fixing us.

There were BIG breaches that allowed for our embarrassment on the 27th, from them knowing callsigns, breaching interpersonal data streams
to on ground assets helping them with the strike, their is a huge sanitization drive on.

Let me illustrate, when a VA enters a non peace zone, IAF/IA/LP all are made aware, the PA found that info somehow
and went to drop cotton balls near the VA's position, green flagged by their element on ground indicating the VA being mobile
IA MI must be working round the clock to sanitise all this.

CFV wise we can only operate at them via the LOC, IB would cause issues for us as well, the LOC right now with no snow is
open for them to monitor, they are on alert as well as us, they fire almost every 4th day, we retaliate
Are we crossing over, i doubt it, theyve moved enough AD up their to find paperplanes as well, can we be funding proxies to do our work
now that is a theory i would love to float
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We have Done more in the Last 3 and Half Months than As compared to the Previous 30 years

Pakistani support to Kashmiri Terrorism
Started in 1989

Even During Kargil and Post Kargil Pakistan was Very Belligerent and Arrogant

Why are they Talking So Politely these days :sneaky::sneaky:
 
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panzerdad said:
So i guess we're talking on similar lines in terms of him being unreliable

coming to other details, we're currently playing a gandhian approach to our retaliation i see
were baiting them, internal issues are hurting us as well, what i think we're doing is revamping, there are tunnels being set up
near the LOC, were fixing our AD's and running drills, we arent hurting them for now, we're fixing us.

There were BIG breaches that allowed for our embarrassment on the 27th, from them knowing callsigns, breaching interpersonal data streams
to on ground assets helping them with the strike, their is a huge sanitization drive on.

Let me illustrate, when a VA enters a non peace zone, IAF/IA/LP all are made aware, the PA found that info somehow
and went to drop cotton balls near the VA's position, green flagged by their element on ground indicating the VA being mobile
IA MI must be working round the clock to sanitise all this.

CFV wise we can only operate at them via the LOC, IB would cause issues for us as well, the LOC right now with no snow is
open for them to monitor, they are on alert as well as us, they fire almost every 4th day, we retaliate
Are we crossing over, i doubt it, theyve moved enough AD up their to find paperplanes as well, can we be funding proxies to do our work
now that is a theory i would love to float
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I am unable to understand what are you saying

If you are referring to Our Mistakes and Deficiencies that have been exposed
Then that also is a Good thing

Because Otherwise How else will be know about it , except during a Real conflict
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
We have Done more in the Last 3 and Half Months than As compared to the Previous 30 years

Pakistani support to Kashmiri Terrorism
Started in 1989

Even During Kargil and Post Kargil Pakistan was Very Belligerent and Arrogant

Why are they Talking So Politely these days :sneaky::sneaky:
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It has nothing to do with our supposed unverified military operations that do not exist, it has TONNES to do with our
govt, we have choked them from each end, Oman,IRAN, AFG, tajikistan we wrapped them up in a noose economic and military
even saudis and chinese know the diplomatic value we carry now.
Suadi investment in pak was under threat due to our flexing, cepc was itching cause they knew our flexing was causing
nervousness, lets give the likes of AJAY BISARIA, JAYSHANKAR etc the credit that we drool over a bababakri ?
 
panzerdad said:
@Falcon , can i request you to point me to your data/post on our SIGNIT being across the border during the recent conflict
wanna read up and ask you a few questions if thats okay ?
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I forgot to give you a heads up. All he said was an "unknown" Indian aircraft was also flying in their airspace. He didn't reveal the type of aircraft or nature of the mission. So it's up to you to guess all that.

My guess is it's one of NTRO's newest aircraft and the aircraft was jamming.
 
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panzerdad said:
@Falcon , can i request you to point me to your data/post on our SIGNIT being across the border during the recent conflict
wanna read up and ask you a few questions if thats okay ?
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I forgot that it's easy to find. Lol. I made a joke about it too. You can read this page and the next.

India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

Of course, it could also be a satellite, but that's not "airspace".
 
randomradio said:
I forgot to give you a heads up. All he said was an "unknown" Indian aircraft was also flying in their airspace. He didn't reveal the type of aircraft or nature of the mission. So it's up to you to guess all that.

My guess is it's one of NTRO's newest aircraft and the aircraft was jamming.
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I had read @Falcon 's post. Is it possible that our asset is in enemy airspace and they do nothing about it?
 
randomradio said:
I forgot to give you a heads up. All he said was an "unknown" Indian aircraft was also flying in their airspace. He didn't reveal the type of aircraft or nature of the mission. So it's up to you to guess all that.

My guess is it's one of NTRO's newest aircraft and the aircraft was jamming.
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Will Any Aircraft which engages in Jamming
Appear on the Enemy Radar

Is it possible for a EW aircraft to hide itself completely

BTW from their side a Dassault Falcon 20
Was engaged in Jamming

Dassault Falcon 20 - Wikipedia
 
panzerdad said:
It has nothing to do with our supposed unverified military operations that do not exist, it has TONNES to do with our
govt, we have choked them from each end, Oman,IRAN, AFG, tajikistan we wrapped them up in a noose economic and military
even saudis and chinese know the diplomatic value we carry now.
Suadi investment in pak was under threat due to our flexing, cepc was itching cause they knew our flexing was causing
nervousness, lets give the likes of AJAY BISARIA, JAYSHANKAR etc the credit that we drool over a bababakri ?
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I dont know Why people hate Baba So much

He is not asking people to follow him

He does not appear in media like Zaid Hamid

If Govt of India wanted his account to be closed they would have done so already

Nobody in Mainstream media has ever quoted Baba , for most Indians he is Not a
Known figure
 
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Yes. It's because even if they know they are being jammed, they wouldn't be able to figure out where exactly it's coming from.[/QUOTE]


And yet cutie found this ?
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