Tender documents, expected cost 1500-2000 crores
Sukhoi Su-30MKI
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Tender documents, expected cost 1500-2000 crores
Radar and detection is probably one of very few domains where we are on par with any western, chinese and bar a few very sophisticated systems like space object detection, Russian counterpart. In a few years you will see once the rollout is complete.
i certainly hope so but i still need proof to see that we have comparable anti stealth tech, LX111 has shown legitimate points on a subject where i do not possess a lot of knowledge. unless he/she is lying(no reason to) or misinterpreting the situation( which is likely) in which case i would appreciate more knowledge.
It is quite simple & logical actually.
If you are developing stealth tech based product and this is done by combining various applications together culminating into a final prototype product. Now you have to verify and prove that this combined technology applications put together also work as an integrated product. This means you need to develop telemetry, detection and tracking method to verify its performance otherwise you can not prove that the product you made work per a set of standards and meet certain criteria threshold.
Now I am making VLO stealth jet and I simply claim it works without verified proof, then what stops me by pointing to something imaginary & claim my invisible stealth platform work better than yours, only the gullible audience would believe my words and not yours. This applies for the chinese customer base where their customers do not bother to absorb the tech and later run into problems , part created by supply chain issue but majority is due to poor QA naturally.
Case in point, if you have developed sophisticated test method and tracking process to verify a stealth platform performance, that means it can be tracked and tracked well enough to identify its performance, its inherent qualities while being airborne. Most of this is achieved with the specific software algorithm tweaks and stealth object detection dedicated mode/radars etc. It means technology exist for detection of VLO flying objects. Its up to the user base to develop & scale that into a product standard.
This will be the first time one sees IAF Su30s taking off in tandem (at least caught on vids). Experts, please comment on the sudden movement of the right frame (is it natural or caught in the wake/turbulence?)
the line up for a staggered pair takeoff is normally done keeping in mind the wind direction. The second aircraft is supposed to be upwind while the lead is downwind to ensure that the wake of lead aircraft does not interfere with the take off of the second aircraft. In this case the surface winds as seen from the wind sock appear to be very slight and so the lead aircraft was lined up upwind against the normal procedure. It seems, just after take off, the aircraft experienced higher wind speed resulting in the ake of the lead aircraft drifting into the path of the second aircraft and that explains the away movement of the second aircraft to avoid the wake.
when we do proper paired take off inwhich we are in a close formation flying set up, the wind direction as such is of no importance. You may have seen such take offs being done by air display teams
There are internal talks to extend the order of 12 new MKIs to around 54-60 new ones(in addition to these 12 already ordered). Take it for what it is @marich01, @_Anonymous_, @Speedster1, @YoungWolf, @babablacksheep, et al
with hope.
Would these MKI be in the Super Sukhoi configuration being developed or the current one as it exists ?
Su-57 purchase was given greenlight by IAF during last year itself. Look at some of my comments when the news spread about PAF getting J-35s. I revealed even then that Su-57 was now a lock.
More MKIs are separate from that. Out of these 50-60 new ones, 20 would be modified for BrahMos-A carriage, thus we'll have close to 80 MKI with ability to carry BrahMos.
MKI did stellar work in the latest OPs and on contrary to popular propaganda, it did stellar work in 2019 itself to repel PAF strike package. Russia has offered their stealth cruise missile for MKI along with R-37M. Both of these would make MKI even more formidable until our desi weapons like CATS Hunter and Astra MK2/3 are fully ready and mature.
UPG. configuration.
Kh-69 is on offer? Wasn't it RUMINT? I have not studied it so far. It has been inducted fairly recently (22/23 IIRC). If IAF does acquire it, it will be the first export customer.
every single Rus export version is on offer to the interested party, you do not need to get separate offers. That written offer is applicable when a previous RFQ is already given to the Rus export bureau.
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Latest OSINT from X is UAC officials are in China with a Stage 2 Su-57 model offering it to the Chinese.