Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

One thing we should take in from Canada is their nurse system. They have this number called 811 (junior cousin of 911) for reaching out to a nurse. Many times, you need a medical advice on things like dosage or not finding the right medince, so you can call them. They are really helpful. If they cann't help you they will instruct you to call 911.
I was talking about going there as a clinical appointment.
Practically what happens is even if you have a minor or non critical or non emergency issue which a walk-in cannot handle in Canada, they sometime send you over to ER to skip the waiting line. Seen it enough times.
 
Practically what happens is even if you have a minor or non critical or non emergency issue which a walk-in cannot handle in Canada, they sometime send you over to ER to skip the waiting line. Seen it enough times.

That depends on other factors. But it's better to call doctor, ending up in emergency for soar throat means waiting for hours. Call ambulance, thats the best way.
 
USA healthcare is an organized mafia. If you are sickly, suffer from a disease like cancer or get seriously injured, you will be reduced to a pauper if you dont have a decent job that takes care of insurance. I had a friend who was in an accident on the outskirts of Chicago, nothing really serious except for a cracked rib, no surgery, 12 hours in intensive care and 1 day under regular observation after which he was sent home - his bill $98000, he had to pay $12000 after insurance. He is now in Canada, left USA without paying a penny. :)
 
Americans wait for the last moment to head to hospital, because of insurance costs. They prefer to self-medicate and then dial 911 when the pain is unbearable. By that time, pneumonia is in its advanced stage. Also, demographically, they seem to have weaker immunity.

A lot of Americans are unhealthy. Heart conditions, diabetes, blood pressure, obesity etc.
 
As of today there are 12 countries with almost 10k or more known cases. The puzzling part is extremely low mortality rate in Germany. Either they have really strong genes or their testing rate is 10x better than their neighbors.

Give it a week. Their healthcare is much more established than other European countries, but real rise in deaths will start happening once they start running out of ventilators and ICU beds. Same with the US.
 
That depends on other factors. But it's better to call doctor, ending up in emergency for soar throat means waiting for hours. Call ambulance, thats the best way.
If you have JUST soar throat, you go to walk-in clinic. Thats all. If you need a diagnostic that has 5 months of waiting, may be... just may be you go to emergency.
 

1029 active cases. Pls remember these infections were caught somewhere around 14-16 Mar. The next fortnight from the listed dates till date is going to be crucial, the results of which we'd know from next weekend to next fortnight.

MoHFW says something else.. Many of these numbers are coming from sources that are untrusted. Lets stick to numbers from one good source.

Ministry of Health and Family Welfare | GOI RSS

819 Active
79 cured
19 Not among us.
1 I don't know what happened.
Trouble for China is that it will be really hard for them to reverse it. They don't have the capability to reverse damage to soft power.
 
Trouble for China is that it will be really hard for them to reverse it. They don't have the capability to reverse damage to soft power.

What about big corporations who have billions at stake? China is both a big manufacturer and consumer.
 
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MoHFW says something else.. Many of these numbers are coming from sources that are untrusted. Lets stick to numbers from one good source.

Ministry of Health and Family Welfare | GOI RSS

819 Active
79 cured
19 Not among us.
1 I don't know what happened.

Trouble for China is that it will be really hard for them to reverse it. They don't have the capability to reverse damage to soft power.
This account compiles the latest information as updated by individual States. MoHFW is tardy & incompetent. Their lists are often incompatible with the aggregate of all the states. They do rectify the errors but at their own convenience.
 
This account compiles the latest information as updated by individual States. MoHFW is tardy & incompetent. Their lists are often incompatible with the aggregate of all the states. They do rectify the errors but at their own convenience.
We don't know how well they compile the numbers. I have seen their website. They also admit that. Honestly, there are NO really good source of number for simple reason we are not testing enough. I am suggest Ministry website because they tend to have access to all the data. Anyways its a matter to 100-200 cases. We know there is a much bigger coverage issue.
 
1 I don't know what happened.
He flew out of India.
Khujli is now showing his true colors as the agent of anti India forces. This exodus of migrant labour from Delhi is a very well planned move done at the behest of his foreign masters. The world is pretty shocked about the way this virus has been contained in India and they want to disrupt this at any cost. Khujli and his gang is working on their behalf.
 
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He flew out of India.
Khujli is now showing his true colors as the agent of anti India forces. This exodus of migrant labour from Delhi is a very well planned move done at the behest of his foreign masters. The world is pretty shocked about the way this virus has been contained in India and they want to disrupt this at any cost. Khujli and his gang is working on their behalf.

Sir

Has the Anand Vihar ISBT been cleared today morning , or are they still waiting
 
He flew out of India.
Khujli is now showing his true colors as the agent of anti India forces. This exodus of migrant labour from Delhi is a very well planned move done at the behest of his foreign masters. The world is pretty shocked about the way this virus has been contained in India and they want to disrupt this at any cost. Khujli and his gang is working on their behalf.

I don't get the mindset of these people. They make no sense. I wish I had some insight.
 
Khujli is now showing his true colors as the agent of anti India forces. This exodus of migrant labour from Delhi is a very well planned move done at the behest of his foreign masters. The world is pretty shocked about the way this virus has been contained in India and they want to disrupt this at any cost. Khujli and his gang is working on their behalf.

I doubt, no one expected so many migrants to be stranded. It was said that many labourers would be left on site with basic food and water, even if they did not earn anything or house helpers would be paid their salaries. But employers have done otherwise and asked them to leave. This is because of panic and no one expected - trains should have been arranged for the succeeding 24 hours, to get people home.

And there are these legends who still need their maids. Her face alone is enough to give you permanent erectile dysfunction.

 
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Khujli is now showing his true colors as the agent of anti India forces. This exodus of migrant labour from Delhi is a very well planned move done at the behest of his foreign masters. The world is pretty shocked about the way this virus has been contained in India and they want to disrupt this at any cost. Khujli and his gang is working on their behalf.

Some folks sold India for few units of electricity. Damn!

That said, New Delhi is not that big of an epicenter right now. Bigger problem is punjab and maharashtra.

I think, even migration is not that much of an issue in longer term. This disease WILL spread. One way or the other. There will be NO vaccine for 2 years or so.

May be better way is to isolate known vulnerables. Unlike USA/EU, our vulnerables are smaller as a fraction (AFAIK, and honestly an assumption). So, may be we should provide ways in which older and vulnerable folks can be better isolated from younger folks.


I doubt, no one expected so many migrants to be stranded. It was said that many labourers would be left on site with basic food and water, even if they did not earn anything or house helpers would be paid their salaries. But employers have done otherwise and asked them to leave. This is because of panic and no one expected - trains should have been arranged for the succeeding 24 hours, to get people home.

And there are these legends who still need their maids. Her face alone is enough to give you permanent erectile dysfunction.
To be honest this was a pink flamingo. It should have been expected. There should have been temporary arrangement for their stay.

Rural Urban migration is taught since class 8th from past so many years. Any IAS worth his salt should know that process. Now if you shut down business what you expect?

This was a miss. A massive miss.

That said, I have seen it happen all the time. Contractor brings labourer from villages for doing trenching and then leaves them. I came across many people with entire family in the tow. Many begging for money to return. I was in B'lore once and saw many folks from Maharashtra in such predicament.

Someone should have worked this out.......

May be, they should restart Indian Railways for few days and move people and/or accomodate people everywhere they can.
 
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