Transport Aircraft of IAF - C-130J, C-17 Globemaster, C295: Updates & Discussions

Kawasaki C 2 is an impressive thing. Wonder what would happen if we double the number of engines. Will we take the initiative with Japan to work on something like that?
Though not in line with c17, We had a chance to develop a freighter or atleast an opportunity to grab intellectual property right from an oem, not once but twice (But we are Indians, we were good in repeating the mistake multiple times since centuries ), But we miss both opportunities twice, first ine was obviously the proposed indo Russian medium transport aircraft.
Second one was the AN-70, it is actually a better version than A400, there was no takers for that aircraft from any customers, we could have get an easy deal from Ukrain.
Il-76MD/TD: Range with 52-tonne payload: 4,400 km (2,700 mi, 2,400 nmi)
A-400 M: Range with 30-tonne payload: 4,500 km (2,450 nmi)

2 A-400 M can replace one Il-76MD/TD.
You cleverly ignored c17 from c17/il76 from the post #1022.
I want offload a T72 or t90 or a k9 howitzer to Ladakh, is it possible to perform it? C17 can do it easily.
 
You cleverly ignored c17 from c17/il76 from the post #1022.
I want offload a T72 or t90 or a k9 howitzer to Ladakh, is it possible to perform it? C17 can do it easily.
it is an apple to orange comparison, that he makes. you also can't put abrams tanks in an A400
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Kawasaki C 2 is an impressive thing. Wonder what would happen if we double the number of engines. Will we take the initiative with Japan to work on something like that?
The only thing we can procure is the Embraer c-390. The Japanese wouldn't export the c-2. But it's the weakest choice and would be basically useless for airlifting tanks.
 
The only thing we can procure is the Embraer c-390. The Japanese wouldn't export the c-2. But it's the weakest choice and would be basically useless for airlifting tanks.
Importing C2 wasn't what I suggested. A larger version of C2 with 4 engines as future (15 years down the line) replacement of Il76 fleet.

Could be worked upon with Japanese.

If nothing works, buy the fleeting engineers of Antonov and take over An178 and An70.
 

TASL will produce C-295 aircraft at affordable price: CEO & MD Sukaran Singh

Tata Advanced Systems CEO Sukaran Singh speaks about a collaboration with Airbus on producing 56 C-295 transport aircraft in India


Tata Advanced Systems Limited (TASL) — the Tata Sons’ subsidiary which has emerged as the country’s leading private defence manufacturing company, is confident of jointly producing with Airbus more than 40 of the 56 C-295 transport aircraft in India which would be “more affordable globally”.
In an exclusive interview with Business Line, TASL CEO and MD Sukaran Singh spoke extensively about indigenously built new unmanned and optronics systems the company will roll out, besides the need to push for development of core technologies for real self-reliance in the defence sector. Edited excerpts:

Can you share TASL’s expansion and growth plans?​

Tatas are going forward in two ways; one is by proactive investment by us without any orders. The other one is with the DRDO. Tatas are making attempts in both cases where technologies are denied to India... In these strategic areas, true tech cannot be transferred, it is not easy even if they want to. It is not a software pack where you just give them the design... If we actually don’t know the ‘know-why’ we cannot build the next generation products… We are developing with the help of start ups unmanned systems. We are also developing capabilities. Tomorrow, if it is somebody else’s design, we can go for global quality, great production.
Tatas are looking at doing things which benefit the country. When we look at projects we look at two to three things. First, whether these are strategic to the country where technologies have often been denied. This is our real area of growth. And it is actually hard work, and the other filter is that we must make a commercially profitable enterprise… Of course, this is from India’s project point of view. We will always support foreign companies, which want to make global scale products. India as a source of low-cost quality products will always be held...

Where is ₹22,000 crore worth C-295 aircraft project headed?​

It’s all on time. It’s all on track. When we got the project we had a lot of time thinking through the project on timelines... we are absolutely on track, certain things had to start early, certain things can start a little later, and so on and so forth.

Where will the production set-up be located?​

As far as the FAL location is concerned, we will share it with you at the right time. Frankly, at the end of the day our board has to decide.

Will the production start from the scheduled time, that is 2025?​

Absolutely, we will do global quality at the global rate, at the right time.

Will TASL manufacture more than 40 of 56 planes it has to supply to armed forces?​

Yes, absolutely. I think our partnership with Airbus is strong and they recognise that the product we are going to make in India will be more affordable globally. The partnership is of mutual trust. India itself will require more C-295s, so more will be produced in India than 56. I cannot say how many. I cannot say when… Tatas have spent not just resources, but management time, so we have taken a risk… The kind of capability we are developing is very transferable… to build any aircraft line... that’s what is strategic. Tomorrow if the government says build a fighter aircraft line, we can do that. Effectively we are doing all this right now..

Products that are to be rolled out soon?​

I can tell that we have orders for both, land systems as well as optronics for exports. We have already supplied optronics to the Indian Army that can see 20 kms out. And we have now developed new systems that can see 40 to 50 kms out... and these are cutting edge... We are also putting these systems on boats and ships so that you can extend their reach. We are developing the optronics for our aerial platforms and so on... We certainly are going to come up with many unmanned systems and loitering ammunition, precision weapon systems. There are very few countries that can make the kind of systems I’m talking about. These platforms at least from India’s perspective are next-generation platforms designed and built in India. New thing we are going to do is a whole application of artificial intelligence, but I don’t want to talk about it right now. There are many other things which beyond a point, we are not in a position to share. We are exporting all our air structures, and military land systems...
 

There is no confusion with most people for the last 20 years. it's just known as a C-130j, they even leave out the super.

Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules

From your link:

Specifications (C-130J)[edit]

General characteristics

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Performance
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  • Range: 1,800 nmi (2,100 mi, 3,300 km) at max normal payload (34,000 lb (15,422 kg))
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C-130J Super Hercules

Tactical airlifter
C-130J-30
Lockheed Martin designation for its 15 ft (4.6 m) extended fuselage variant; designated CC-130J by USAF for a short time after 2002.[107][108]
 
?????? Different class of aircraft. It would be like saying 2.5 C-130
C-130j 20-tonne 4,400 km

C-130j:
Payload main: 42,000 lb (19,051 kg)
Range: 1,800 nmi (2,100 mi, 3,300 km) at max normal payload (34,000 lb (15,422 kg))
So all of this is because you made a fool of yourself and didn't know that they made one with the specs I gave. I'm glad you have caught up 20 years
 
Importing C2 wasn't what I suggested. A larger version of C2 with 4 engines as future (15 years down the line) replacement of Il76 fleet.

Could be worked upon with Japanese.

If nothing works, buy the fleeting engineers of Antonov and take over An178 and An70.
Why can't we just buy the licence for IAE V2500 from the Americans and design our own airlifter. We don't need the japanese. ADA, HAL and TATA could produce it.
 
So all of this is because you made a fool of yourself and didn't know that they made one with the specs I gave. I'm glad you have caught up 20 years
It's a good thing that ridicule doesn't kill, because otherwise you would have died long ago. Another demonstration of indefectibility, you confuse the performance of the C-130J and the C-130J-30, which shows a certain level of amateurism and you end up taking pride in it. In fact you show that rigour and precision are inaccessible to you.
 
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Why can't we just buy the licence for IAE V2500 from the Americans and design our own airlifter. We don't need the japanese. ADA, HAL and TATA could produce it.
We are unable to produce a Do228 with EASA certification. Our own Indian Civil airliners are buying Twin otters over Do228. We lack, that's truth.
 
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It's a good thing that ridicule doesn't kill, because otherwise you would have died long ago. Another demonstration of indefectibility, you confuse the performance of the C-130J and the C-130J-30, which shows a certain level of amateurism and you end up taking pride in it. In fact you show that rigour and precision are inaccessible to you.
As I said, the C-130J-30 Hercules is often referred to and known as a C-130J Hercules. Infact just referred to as a herc or c-130
 
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Il-76MD/TD: Range with 52-tonne payload: 4,400 km (2,700 mi, 2,400 nmi)
A-400 M: Range with 30-tonne payload: 4,500 km (2,450 nmi)

2 A-400 M can replace one Il-76MD/TD.

Need jet engines, not propellers.

Anyway our IL-76 will be upgraded and operated until 2040.
The only thing we can procure is the Embraer c-390. The Japanese wouldn't export the c-2. But it's the weakest choice and would be basically useless for airlifting tanks.

More IL-76 can be purchased if necessary. It's in production again.
 
Importing C2 wasn't what I suggested. A larger version of C2 with 4 engines as future (15 years down the line) replacement of Il76 fleet.

Could be worked upon with Japanese.

If nothing works, buy the fleeting engineers of Antonov and take over An178 and An70.

Need next gen options when the current lot come in for replacement. Both the Americans and Russians will come out with those by then.

I have always pushed for this. It will help develop the transport ecosystem in the private sector too.