So this is How Future IAF will look like
180 MK1A
200 MK2
200 AMCA
300 SU 30
150 RAFALES
55 SQUADRONS is what
IAF needs
180 MK1A
200 MK2
200 AMCA
300 SU 30
150 RAFALES
55 SQUADRONS is what
IAF needs
Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions
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China doesn't care about le strategic balance it just wants to keep India bogged down and embarrassed.
Based on incomplete basic knowledge and lot of misguided hopium.
Will this mean China will 'sell' J35 to PAF even tho PAK can't afford it? From now onwards, major Chinese armaments imported by PAK will all be on loans?
Chinese if they want can throw it for free although I heavily suspect it will be a degraded version of J35 with inferior radar and stealth, Chinese wouldn't want the best of the best premier naval fighter go to the Paks. Even then the degraded J35 is a serious threat.
But J35 does pose a serious threat right? Its LO at worst and harder to detect with PL15 at least initially we stand to lose a handful of not more of our jets and even tankers/AWACS. Over time of course we can blunt them by mercilessly bombing Pak airbases to make sure that J35s can't take off. But at the initial stages we face higher losses.
When you only have 4th + gen, you 'want to believe' they are competitive with 5th gen
When you have 5th gen, you 'know' the 4th + gen are just targets, All the bravado in the world won't change this
India needs to get their 5th gen in the air now
Pakistan’s Planned Induction of China’s J-35E Stealth Fighters Signals a Potential Turning Point in South Asia’s Airpower Balance
China’s J-35E fifth-generation stealth fighters into the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) between early 2026 and early 2027 represents a potentially decisive inflection point in South Asia’s aerial balance. If realised on the timelines now widely reported, the move would mark Islamabad’s most ambitious...
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The emerging school of thought for fighter jets heading into the 2030-2040s is :When you only have 4th + gen, you 'want to believe' they are competitive with 5th gen
When you have 5th gen, you 'know' the 4th + gen are just targets, All the bravado in the world won't change this
India needs to get their 5th gen in the air now
Pakistan’s Planned Induction of China’s J-35E Stealth Fighters Signals a Potential Turning Point in South Asia’s Airpower Balance
China’s J-35E fifth-generation stealth fighters into the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) between early 2026 and early 2027 represents a potentially decisive inflection point in South Asia’s aerial balance. If realised on the timelines now widely reported, the move would mark Islamabad’s most ambitious...
- MUMT + CCA : Reconnaissance and ISR
- 5th Generation : Air Dominance/ Air Superiority + Strike Role in Air Defence rich environment
- 4th Generation+ : Strike Role and Force Projection
- 4th Generation- : Interception/ Constabulary duties and Limited Strike Role
- MUMT + CCA : Ghatak, CATS
- 5th Generation : Su 57E (2-3 squadrons) + 200 AMCA (after 2034-2035)
- 4th Generation+ : Su 30MKI (upgraded), Rafale F4
- 4th Generation- : Tejas MK1A
MUMT and CCA are all Expendables
They will be used to know the Enemy SAMs ,.for subsequent SEAD /DEAD missions
Manned fighters are going to remain the most essential weapon of any Air Force
And now the only question remains is whether The SPECTRA Of Rafale is better OR the Stealthy Characteristics of J 35
They will be used to know the Enemy SAMs ,.for subsequent SEAD /DEAD missions
Manned fighters are going to remain the most essential weapon of any Air Force
And now the only question remains is whether The SPECTRA Of Rafale is better OR the Stealthy Characteristics of J 35
Only IAF can give that answer , if they don't buy Su-57 that means they can handle it with Rafale + Su-30 combo in a EW integrated network. But still they need long range BVR missiles & probably they gonna buy r-37M for Su-30.
But still I guess Su-57 is in pipeline.
Group Captain Rohit Kataria taking in his Rafale into a Vertical Charlie near Ambala Airforce station:
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Just now on DD National they said India used Meteor in Op Sindoor......... That should lay rest to any question of us having Meteor in inventory with Rafale.
Just got the confirmation uses of Meteor in Operation Sindoor! Big facepalm to Rafale haters...
Source: DD National
This is the exact moment when national broadcaster explained the weapons used in Operation Sindoor!
Source: DD National
This is the exact moment when national broadcaster explained the weapons used in Operation Sindoor!
Picture is granny but it looks like a Meteor, doesn't it?
IAF Rafales during rehearsals were seen armed with AASM Hammer & TALIOS targeting pod.
Scalp and Meteor missiles also noticed.
Scalp and Meteor missiles also noticed.
We couldn't handle Pakistani EW when they had those shitty f-16's and you expect the Rafales and su-30mki's to handle Pakistani and Cheeni EW which will be upgraded with the assistance of Turks?
Without su-57 we have no real chance in a 2.5 front war.
We need 60 atleast and 80 squadrons for actually dominating in a 2 front war.
Lets be real j-35 is just a mig 35 with a body kit. It's nowhere near the f-35 in actual capability. Chinese A2G capability is dogshit that's why they are so dependent on their rocket force.When you only have 4th + gen, you 'want to believe' they are competitive with 5th gen
When you have 5th gen, you 'know' the 4th + gen are just targets, All the bravado in the world won't change this
India needs to get their 5th gen in the air now
Pakistan’s Planned Induction of China’s J-35E Stealth Fighters Signals a Potential Turning Point in South Asia’s Airpower Balance
China’s J-35E fifth-generation stealth fighters into the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) between early 2026 and early 2027 represents a potentially decisive inflection point in South Asia’s aerial balance. If realised on the timelines now widely reported, the move would mark Islamabad’s most ambitious...
There won't be a massive change in air dynamics. What we need is either Netras or the E-7 wedgetails integrated with our Rafales and flankers which ever comes first.
Paisa Hai...I hope this purchase goes through.
Only then we can expect to see J-35A in the PAF .
Otherwise it's the Mirages all the way
I mean will Pakistan Pay Cash Or with KATORA....
Just for the record , there won't ever be a 2 front war for a 2 front war will turn Nuclear especially on our western front . Fauji Foundation is all too aware of this.
I do believe we have something in pipeline and expected to go live within couple of year, excluding Kusha project. Meanwhile unmanned bomber project keeps ongoing without much public news.
For China, we must have ALBMs capable of putting major Chinese cities to threat wile launched from within our airspace, like newly disclosed JL-1 ALBM.
Then only we will have the Chinese deterred conventionally.
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Then only we will have the Chinese deterred conventionally.