Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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The F-35 as a platform exists. And that's what we'd essentially buy it for - just as a stop-gap VLO platform till AMCA is ready. We don't need a gold-plated version for that. And if it turns out we do need the upgrades (cuz of AMCA delay or otherwise), we can do them post-induction. Just like how ISEs were being implemented on our Rafales years after induction.

The relative differences between the platforms will still remain. Even the F-35 as it exists will be capable of getting much closer to any given target than a Rafale.



Rafale without ISEs wouldn't have been considered fully mission-capable by IAF. That doesn't mean we wouldn't induct them till after all ISEs were implemented.

The thing is, like I said before, we're in an extraordinary place with regard to procurement paralysis right now - we've never been in such a place before.



If staying 100s of kms behind the penetrator is the way Rafale wants to play the game, then we frankly don't need something that expensive for this role. A Tejas Mk2 with drop tanks would do the job just as well, if not better considering it will be stealthier than the Rafale.



It's the terminology we use to describe the aircraft that controls the CATS system. It's the M in MAX.

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But frankly, it doesn't matter what you call it - MUMT involves a man in the loop. I'm talking about the plane where the man sits.



Well, I think I have a fairly solid idea that drilling holes in Chinese IADS isn't exactly a pressing requirement for France.



Information can't change physical properties. Information is to be used in conjunction with a stealthy platform, not instead of.

Why do you think there's a VLO/ULO plane at the heart of every system-of-systems program in the works (FCAS, GCAP, NGAD) right now?



By the time we assessed the J-20, the J-20B was already flying. Now that we finally sanctioned development of AMCA & working on NG engine program as an answer to J-20B, now 2-3 different J-XX are flying.

Whether we actually buy a stop-gap 5G or not is anyone's guess, and a lot of it will come down to politics. I'm just saying that if we've determined that a VLO platform is necessary to deal with future threats (which we did when we sanctioned AMCA), it might be worthwhile to get one via G2G sooner as a stop-gap because the enemy is rapidly building numbers in this department AND because very soon this will become a two-front problem.

If the stop-gap G2G isn't available, I already told you what we'll do.



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Yep, cratering a whole 5km x 5km island is more difficult than searching the whole Indo-Gangetic Plain for where that BrahMos MAL moved after it launched.



BEL makes datalinks for everybody. The IN uses it's Link-II in conjunction with indigenous SDRs, while IAF uses its DL in conjunction with Israeli SDR (BNET).

The BNET was purchased instead of the indigenous alternative called SDR-2010, which was developed by HAL. Mostly due to size & weight constraints. Even if we had bought the HAL SDR, the datalink would've still been from BEL.

The reason cross-service integration is siloed is because the different SDRs use different encryptions. We need to fix that, either by modifying them all to use the same encryption, or replacing them all with our own SDRs.



Yeah, sure buddy.



You just repeated what I said regarding the process of what's supposed to happen, but without addressing the question I asked therein:

"What that means is that the Meteor's engagement envelope could currently be limited to what the Rafale's own FCR is able to see & guide the missile onto, because the Rafale might not yet be able to take inputs from Netra & feed them to Meteor via the datalink that connects the missile to the Rafale."



This is where you err, combined with that other assumption of Rafale (or MKI) radar outranging Netra. Wake me up when either of those can generate tracks of fighter-sized targets at +475 km like Netra can.

An additional problem is you're gonna be operating under a heavy EW environment, meaning significant sensor degradation. Which I already talked about, but you conveniently ignored. Fighter FCRs are considerably easier to degrade than AEWs, cuz the latter are much more powerful - and would operate out at farther ranges meaning the same jammer is less effective against them.

A Netra could be operating 200 km behind the fighters, and still outrange their radars by a 100 kms when it comes to tracking fighter-sized targets. The BARS can track fighters at 140 km in the best-case scenario. And no, the instrumented detection range (what fanboys love to call mini-AWACS) doesn't matter. You need to be able to generate tracks & vector data, otherwise the fighters you're guiding won't know whether they're firing their missiles ahead of or behind the target. One of those would significantly reduce the Ph/Pk.

Missiles like Meteor or Gandiva cannot be leveraged to their full extent unless you can rely on offboard target data.

And that is the crux of my doubt - whether the Rafale is yet able to take information from Netra via datalink, translate it & feed it to Meteor via fighter-to-missile datalink (which is a different system) or not. This would require our Rafales to have:

1) BNET SDR hardware installed - status: DONE.
2) Rafale's software patched to recognize the Indian datalink fed via the BNET - status: UNKNOWN, but likely DONE.
3) Translation layer installed to allow this data to be converted & fed to Meteor's datalink (which is proprietary MBDA software) - status: UNKNOWN.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of this is still work in progress.
Netra Mk1 can track fighter jets at above 400 km!?!?!? I thought the actual range was 250 km or so? That's what DRDO states.
Oh shit that makes it even more embarrassing for HQ9 🤣. @LX1111 dear comrade initially it was "100 Brahmos overwhelmed our poor boy HQ9" now it's looking like 4?
 
Evidences have started to come out, all this bravado of PAF supremacy has been shaken. To uplift the morale of their armed forces and people , Pakistan military is just doing a drama. India lost few drones but no chance that any Indian aircraft was majorly damaged.
 
Netra Mk1 can track fighter jets at above 400 km!?!?!? I thought the actual range was 250 km or so? That's what DRDO states.

Oh shit that makes it even more embarrassing for HQ9 🤣. @LX1111 dear comrade initially it was "100 Brahmos overwhelmed our poor boy HQ9" now it's looking like 4?

Yes - though that's in what they call Super Extended Mode.


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PR = Primary Radar i.e. the main AAAU
 



40N6E(Longest range interceptor of S-400, it's the 400K in 'S-400') that landed in Pakistan near Lahore after intercepting a big bird.
This one took out something big in service of Aand forces...... It's a centre of gravity for a reason.
 
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Netra Mk1 can track fighter jets at above 400 km!?!?!? I thought the actual range was 250 km or so? That's what DRDO states.

Oh shit that makes it even more embarrassing for HQ9 🤣. @LX1111 dear comrade initially it was "100 Brahmos overwhelmed our poor boy HQ9" now it's looking like 4?
Present the evidence, otherwise everything is nonsense, said a spokesperson for the Pakistani Air Force. India launched 100 BrahMos missiles, while the Indian authorities did not provide the specific number.
 
Present the evidence, otherwise everything is nonsense, said a spokesperson for the Pakistani Air Force. India launched 100 BrahMos missiles, while the Indian authorities did not provide the specific number.
India used a combination of high speed drone decoys, loitering drones, Rampage, SCALP and Brahmos missiles. In this mix, only four were Brahmos missiles.
Pak knew that their Navy is of no use against Indian Navy and they had full faith in the combination of their Airforce and Army. But after 10th, they have lost complete faith even in their Airforce and with that goes their faith in their Army.
 
the fkcu, they are using windows xp :cry:o_O
Thats not even the worst part... You wanna know that?

That software was written using MFC... Microsoft Foundation Classes.... an app development technology SO extremely outdated that it is not even funny anymore... To give you an idea... This one is likely using MS VC++ / Visual Studio 6.0 from .... hold on your breath... 1998.

How do I know? MFC icon from VS6.0 looks like this... Middle one is from VS 6.0... Thats the icon on these pictures...

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Present the evidence, otherwise everything is nonsense, said a spokesperson for the Pakistani Air Force. India launched 100 BrahMos missiles, while the Indian authorities did not provide the specific number.



What kind of radars you Chinese and Pakistanis have that you are asking Indians to provide data on numbers of missiles, your radars missed it or what? Abey Jaa
 
Mods want you to actively join the discussion on our forum just like you do on BRF rather than just use SFF to promote your blogs.
I will be happy to participate, I've been a late joiner to this forum. Just to clarify, mine is a non commercial blog and I don't represent anyone, This article was written to combat Pak disinformation and with the permission of Air Marshal Bedi.
 
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