Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

The scale of the attacks by both countries is not comparable. Pakistan used only Fateh-1 rockets, some Turkish drones, and two CM400AKGs, while India used 100 BrahMos and many Storm Shadows, as well as a large number of Harop drones.
Pakistan launched 5-600 drones, India only had 70 or so Harops.
Pakistan launched both Fatah 1 and 2 because they were targetting Delhi, which you can not do with Fatah 1 due to range.
100s of brahmos is not possible for India because only one squadron of su-30 MKI can launch Brahmos. India did not launch any brahmos from ground.
Again "Many Storm Shadow" does not make sense because India only has 36 Rafales out of which 14-16 took part in offensive.
 
Pakistan launched 5-600 drones, India only had 70 or so Harops.
Pakistan launched both Fatah 1 and 2 because they were targetting Delhi, which you can not do with Fatah 1 due to range.
100s of brahmos is not possible for India because only one squadron of su-30 MKI can launch Brahmos. India did not launch any brahmos from ground.
Again "Many Storm Shadow" does not make sense because India only has 36 Rafales out of which 14-16 took part in offensive.
Dear comrade has hard time believing that HQ9 has difficulties seeing it's target similar to how Chinese drivers in the the west have difficulties seeing the road lol.
 
Source, RT, Shputneeq?
The statement is so caricatured that it's grotesque.

And if these are sources within the military establishment (which I doubt a lot a lot), advise them to stop drinking adulterated vodka and switch to mineral water.
with all respect due.
You may laugh it off as Ruskie propaganda but literally every single informed OSINT channel/person is talking about astounding air-to-air and air-to-ground performance by MKI. There are few who're even calling it as the Ghost of Kashmir.


मैं सचमुच इसके लिए तत्पर हूं!
MKI's superlative performance didn't surprise me 'cause I know what it could do, but his info regarding Rafale did caught me off-guard. I was expecting nothing but stellar things from Rafale in both air-to-air and air-to-ground role. So what @vstol Jockey said about Rafale's performance did surprise me. Anyways, मैं भी पूर्ण सत्य जानने को उत्सुक हूँ🤷
 
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My understanding of what happened. Lets hear some hard truths.

For all the glazing of Modi, he is a moron strategically. Pakistan Army wanted a conflict to reduce its unpopularity. Modi gave it straight to them. No-full scale war is possible b/w India & Pakistan as Pakistanis will run to US the moment they lose battlefield momentum. This is exactly what they did. Randirona of nuclear war was started after IAF airstrikes at Nur Khan AFB as their nuclear command authority was housed in close proximity to that Base. Pakistani Military feared decapitating strikes on their nuclear command & control centres(which I dont think IAF would've done anyways, baseless fears). They ran to papa Trump to stop this conflict as IAF siezed the battlefield momentum with their precise Stand-off Strikes, which would've continued if this ceasefire wasn't in place.

[Wierdly, Pakistanis seem to believe that India wanted this ceasefire, but why would Modi be angry at Trump if that was true??? IAF had just started gaining momentum, why would they want to stop??? Pakistanis are incapable of identifying lies from their establishment]

Trump being the moron he is, gave trade threats to both sides to back down & felt he saved the world from the brink of nuclear war, not realising that its just pakistani military bluffing because they wanted a ceasefire.

Though the side-effect of this popularity gained by Pak Military is, Imran Khan's fight against gernails has weakened. Gernails will continue to loot pakistanis & their economy will not turn around for good. They will be struggling with these complex economic issues 10 years from now as well. These issues are beyond the aukaat of gernails & the gap b/w Pakistani & Indian economy will keep growing. India will add $400 billion(nominally) to its economy every year from now on. India's exports will surpass $1 trillion in 2-3 years.

Iran on the other hand, had the appropriate response to Pakistan. Just rain some hypersonic missiles on them & move on. India should've done the same. Our economy is our greatest strength. Everything flows from it. The more hurdles we put in, more we will suffer. Useless conflicts with Pakistan are just such hurdles. Paradoxically, the only reason Modi bowed to Trump's pressure of ceasefire is the trade leverage that US has over India. Trump cant do the same with China, why??? because of their economy. Your economy is the source of all your power. This is what I was saying. But this simple fact is hard for people to grasp. Power trip & ego. Once we become a $15-$20 trillion economy then the world is our playground, you fuc_king morons. Till then keep your head down & grow. This goal should be the first priority.



Coming to Air Forces:

PAF did very well on the first day to interrupt the IAF strike package. Commendable job. They downed atleast 2 IAF aircrafts but that didn't really stop the airstrikes from continuing. 9 targets struck. Bahawalpur, which is in the heart of Pakistani Punjab was struck.

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These expandable illiterates of JeM & LeT that felt very secure, in the heartland of a nuclear country were turned to red mush in seconds. Something to applaud.(y) I didn't think IAF had the balls to do this. Objective completed but at the cost of 3 a/c atleast.

Daniel Pearl's death was avenged by a co-incidence.

The strategy to not attack the PAF but strike the terrorists has turned out to be disastrous. No one seems to be asking why not a single meteor has been found in Pakistan. Modi sent in the airforce with their hands tied. Its a miracle that only such a few a/c were downed in such a large operation.
Political narratives were more important to Modi than rational military objectives. He didn't want to be seen as an attacker, so he barred the IAF from SEAD/DEAD missions. Great!!! as a result, Modi lost both a/c & narrative. Incredible!!! IAF saved modi's *censored* by their glorious spectacle of airstrikes inside the heartland of a credible nuclear power. I dont think these types of thundering airstrikes inside a nuclear country will be seen often, if ever.
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So.....gooooood!!!! ❤️

After day 1, PAF's effectiveness dropped off the cliff. Looks like they only cared about the optics & narrative.
Drone strikes were escalating.
Pakistan launched a projectile towards Delhi which was intercepted over Hisar, Haryana. I have no idea what it was.
In retaliation, IAF resumed their air-launched stand-off airstrikes. IAF struck around 4 of their bases on May 10. In response, an emotionally charged PAF seems to have rushed in(seem to have consumed their own propaganda) & lost multiple a/c around Kashmir. Hushed down to facilitate ceasefire. Looks like we will only get to hear these stories a decade from now.

Up until this point, only the Airforces were going toe to toe, but Pakistanis strarted posting videos of their Fatah -1/2 strikes openly. This is the point at which Brahmos were fired on PAF bases across Pakistan.

Then the ceasefire started.


Something to note:
None of India's other services(Army & Navy) were involved in the offensive part of this op. No ground launched missiles were used by India. No ballistic missiles were used. Pakistani military spins tall tales about everything to exaggerate their achievemnts. Sharif seems to be saying that a ballistic missile struck Nur Khan AFB, which is a lie. It was either a scalp or Brahmos. You cant get such pin-point accuracy with ballistic missiles. It would've missed.

Here, I will post 2 very important clips that I found from Md zubair of Altnews. He caught Pakistani Military lying in 4k, people seem have missed this.

A concise video to explain brazen lies Pakistani Military tells their people.

I was stunned how can militaries lie to their people so openly!!! But then this is Pakistan we are talking about. They refused to accept their dead soldiers in Kargil. What can you expect??

Some other lies that pakmil tells to their people(that i can remember off the top of my head):
1. Indian missiles striking Afghanistan. I am not sure who will believe this but ok.
2. Pakistan knocking out electricity in 70% of India with cyber-warfare. WTF?? who believes this??
(Pakistan meri bijli wapis nahin aayi, meri bijli wapis karo!!!! :ROFLMAO: )
3. Striking Brahmos depot. No footage, no satellite images, nothing.
4. Taking out S-400 at Adampur. Modi debunked it the next day by visiting Adampur & taking photographs with S-400. Pakistanis are still coping about this one.
5. PAF struck 26 Airbases in India. I didn't even know India had these many airbases. But, still no satelite imagery was provided.
Then as usual with Pakistanis, conspiracy theories started flying off. First the conspiracy was that Pakistani establishment didnt want to embarrass India so no satellite imagery was being released. Then NatSecJef(Frhan Jaffrey) came up with a cope that Indian Military doesnt allow photography of its military bases. As if India can stop any private company outside of its jurisdiction from doing so:ROFLMAO:
Even more hilarious, the very next day, imagery of Indian Airbases started coming out showing absolutely no damage anywhere. Damien Symon's entire timeline is just debunking Pakistani photoshopped images one after the other.
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So, PAF threw everything they had at India & India's ADS absorbed everything. Other branches of Pakistani Military got involved but they still couldn't get through. Then IAF started to let loose of its Brahmos strikes & pakistani establishment ran to Trump. Mind you, IAF is the weakest of 3 services in India. Incredible !!🫢

Lots to learn from this conflict.

Some very astute observations from Indranil.
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Iran did a better job by just pummeling Pakistan & moving on. There is not much to do with Pakistan than to just let them be as they watch our economy grow by leaps & bounds. Sending in non-stealth a/c in dense AD environments is just a recipie for disaster.

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Rafale is just another 4th gen fighter. Susceptible to being shot down just like any other non-stealth a/c. Most poeple here already know that I hate Rafales. This conflict made this point glaringly clear. there is no point in spending $300 mil on a non-stealth a/c. Its not a magic bullet. Meteor cant be guided by Indian AWACS. The one with superior kill chain will win. That requires investment in Netra mk2 , Astra mk3 & Uttam derivatives, not buying gold-plated aircraft from abroad.

Modi will do all sorts of bakchodi but wont splurge money on domestic R&D, cause that doesn't bring in votes. Lets see if he can put money where his mouth is.
 

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Pakistan launched 5-600 drones, India only had 70 or so Harops.
Pakistan launched both Fatah 1 and 2 because they were targetting Delhi, which you can not do with Fatah 1 due to range.
100s of brahmos is not possible for India because only one squadron of su-30 MKI can launch Brahmos. India did not launch any brahmos from ground.
Again "Many Storm Shadow" does not make sense because India only has 36 Rafales out of which 14-16 took part in offensive.

Nope, almost every squadron of SU-30MKIs are equipped with brahmos capable aircrafts as said by former Air Chief Marshal V R Chaudhary, but that is immaterial to the 100 brahmos cope as I said there should be 100 such wreckages, and 30 something tiktoks of pakees showing brahmos zooming past them etc. We find none of that and even airbase damage is very precise and localized no impacts on empty ground etc which debunks both soft kill claim by norwood-zeb and 100 brahmos cope by hanese

#WATCH | As one of our most lethal air-combat assets, the BrahMos supersonic missile has really galvanized the way we will equip ourselves with precision firepower in the coming years. Seeing the conflicts that are happening across the globe the importance of precision, long range firepower can't be underscored: Indian Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhari
The combination of BrahMos on the Sukhoi Su-30 has really given us tremendous capability that has enhanced our firepower. It has made the deterrence value of the IAF go up by leaps and bounds: Indian Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhari
As the situation unfolded in Northern borders three years ago, we realised that the potent weapon can be used very effectively for land attacks... In future, next-generation BrahMos or a small version that can be fitted onto smaller platforms like MiG-29, Mirage 2000 or even the LCA: IAF Chief



Lmaoo🤣🤣, onion gang and Hussain seething. you love to see it😍
 
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So when IAF official says mki had Tracked J20,you guys were doing lala things. But F35,but you don't have faith on a cutting edge stealth aircraft like F35 to fight j20.

The J-20 was the old version back then. It came with AL-31F. Two new versions have been made since then. The last one combines the capabilities of the F-22 with the avionics of the F-35 and will come with a new PL-16 BVRAAM. They are building hundreds of this version.
 
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The Pakistani Air Force is a premier organization. They have a very good interlinked system, but still, the system failed. This explains the tactics of the IAF that came out of the syllabus. IAF must have mapped the radar area, sending a Banshee drone mimicking a fighter plane using an electronic decoy.

The IAF has built advanced NCW capabilities since the 2020s, it's a culmination of 30 years of effort and is still gonna go up by another level over the next 5 years. Pakistan's failure resulted due to their blind reliance on Chinese systems.
 
Being a devil's advocate!!!

We cannot be in an echo chamber like our green bros... This was to initiate a different line of discussion.... I am not a aman ki thamasa lover. .

Yep.

Regardless of the sub-conventional aftereffects, taking Pakistan out permanently should be a paramount objective. As long as Pakistan exists, our security needs will always be focused towards them instead of the wider world, which is what the world wants, and we will always be at risk of losing 20-30% of our population.
 
IAF lacks a clear and decisive edge against Pakistan and is behind in even AWACs. It's taking India excessively long to deploy Netra Mk1a and Mk2 along with Astra Mk2.

Where is wreckies of 89 brahmos ?? Because 11 brahmos has hit it's target , cope harder
His other comrades even think Pakistan won 🤣. A nation of 1.4 billion sheeps.
 

Everyday new claims are coming up. Lets hope this is a mistake.

A nuclear-armed nation firing missiles intended for nuclear delivery is an unnecessary provocation. This invites confusion regarding potential nuclear strikes by the adversary. I believe this is the reason we didn't use Prithvi for the conventional role.
 

Everyday new claims are coming up. Lets hope this is a mistake.

A nuclear-armed nation firing missiles intended for nuclear delivery is an unnecessary provocation. This invites confusion regarding potential nuclear strikes by the adversary. I think this is the reason we didnt use Prithvi for the conventional role.
Poor editing..... They even showed brahmos booster as porkee missile debri