It was from here, I guess only base cost is calculated
Source : Indian Defence Update (IDU)
www.theigmp.org
Given we will need full armament the total cost will be high & almost similar to early rafale deal.
That's not an apple-to-apple comparison.
The U.S Department of Defense has quoted the Fly Away unit cost of the F-15EX to be $87.9 million with a $29,000 per hour flying cost but the Vice President of Boeing's fighter division, Steve Parker has said that the price of F-15EX would come below $80 million per unit despite ongoing problems with Supply chains and inflation that have recently driven up prices in the defense industry.
So, first we have a magical price reduction (since they claim to sell it below the fly away unit cost,
despite the ongoing inflation trend which would make the cost evolve upwards rather than downwards).
Secondly they're talking about a pure fly away cost.
Conveniently forgetting that the price of the Rafale deal included non-recurring costs such as personnel training, the development of the ISE, or infrastructure construction for 72 aircraft (while only 36 were in the deal, so the next 36 Rafale have their infrastructure already paid for), as well as costs for extras such as weapons and the performance-based logistics package that guarantees availability rates of 75% minimum.
So, 33% cheaper? Yeah, if you look at it through a prism of pure copium.
Here's a point of comparison. The all-inclusive cost for the 36 Rafale to Qatar was 8.3 billion dollars (7 for the first 24, 1.3 for the next 12 -- do note how the repeat order has a cost per aircraft that's only 37% of the cost per aircraft of the initial deal, which shows the importance of non-recurring costs). The all-inclusive cost for the 36 F-15 to Qatar was 12 billions. That's not exactly 33% below the cost for the Qatari Rafale deal, was it? It's more like it's the Rafale deal that was cheaper than the F-15 deal.
Oh, and on that Qatari F-15 deal, the fly away cost -- meaning the amount of the contract that went directly to Boeing, so not counting weapons and stuff provided by other companies -- was 6 billions, 50% of the total cost. That gives you a flyaway cost per aircraft of 167 millions. Sure, India will get it for less than 80 millions, no problems. Wow, such plausible, so belief.
It was from here, I guess only base cost is calculated
Source : Indian Defence Update (IDU)
www.theigmp.org
Given we will need full armament the total cost will be high & almost similar to early rafale deal.
That's not an apple-to-apple comparison.
The U.S Department of Defense has quoted the Fly Away unit cost of the F-15EX to be $87.9 million with a $29,000 per hour flying cost but the Vice President of Boeing's fighter division, Steve Parker has said that the price of F-15EX would come below $80 million per unit despite ongoing problems with Supply chains and inflation that have recently driven up prices in the defense industry.
So, first we have a magical price reduction (since they claim to sell it below the fly away unit cost,
despite the ongoing inflation trend which would make the cost evolve upwards rather than downwards).
Secondly they're talking about a pure fly away cost.
Conveniently forgetting that the price of the Rafale deal included non-recurring costs such as personnel training, the development of the ISE, or infrastructure construction for 72 aircraft (while only 36 were in the deal, so the next 36 Rafale have their infrastructure already paid for), as well as costs for extras such as weapons and the performance-based logistics package that guarantees availability rates of 75% minimum.
So, 33% cheaper? Yeah, if you look at it through a prism of pure copium.
Here's a point of comparison. The all-inclusive cost for the 36 Rafale to Qatar was 8.3 billion dollars (7 for the first 24, 1.3 for the next 12 -- do note how the repeat order has a cost per aircraft that's only 37% of the cost per aircraft of the initial deal, which shows the importance of non-recurring costs). The all-inclusive cost for the 36 F-15 to Qatar was 12 billions. That's not exactly 33% below the cost for the Qatari Rafale deal, was it? It's more like it's the Rafale deal that was cheaper than the F-15 deal.
Oh, and on that Qatari F-15 deal, the fly away cost -- meaning the amount of the contract that went directly to Boeing, so not counting weapons and stuff provided by other companies -- was 6 billions, 50% of the total cost. That gives you a flyaway cost per aircraft of 167 millions. Sure, India will get it for less than 80 millions, no problems. Wow, such plausible, so belief.