LCA AF Mk2 (Medium Weight Fighter) - News and discussions

[Lolwa]

I've witnessed professional story teller like @Lolwa in the present compile lists frequently 8-10 years ago

To be fair the picture that I paint is realistic. If this sarkaar cut down on the reservations and gibs giving to every tom dick and harry we could save some money. Invest in actual restructuring of the military instead of piece meal orders for testing. Fixing abusive schemes like agniveer. Actually expanding the size of the military and creating further infrastructure for it.
Modernising the military but half of the Army doesn't even know how to wear Bulletproof jackets.
They need to increase and expand investment in infrastructure massively. Need to set up mass production facilities with strict quality standards.
It could be done enmasse if you actually could actually do land distribution. But somehow cannot even redistribute whatever it controls properly.

 

[sahil singh]

France's CMC is not just production-ready, it's already operational in many aircraft. Britain's CMC is still in development.

Rolls-Royce openly says their immediate goal is to catch up with GE and Safran on CMCs.

They will catch up though, but it doesn't change the fact that French tech is already mature while British CMC is still a prototype and yet to begin flight testing.

And stop comparing cold parts with hot parts, that's ridiculous.

And what I said isn't prediction, it's what Safran has offered for AMCA's engine officially. The front module can be upgraded to VCE with just a module change. Only the inlet bay requires very minor changes to accomodate the slightly larger fan.

There are differences in the Ceramic Matrix Composite (CMC) materials used in fighter jet engines compared to aircart, Aero-engines require ultra-high-temperature SiC/SiC for hot sections (~1,300°C–1,600°C+), while aircraft structural/airframe applications often prioritize weight reduction and moderate heat. You cannot Just modify a 5th generation engine into VCE ,this involves a profound redesign of the engine architecture to allow it to function efficiently across a wide range of speeds , to add a 3rd stream you have change the whole dimension of the engine & need to redesign the internal dimensions. So it's not as easy as you say.,......

 

[randomradio]

There are differences in the Ceramic Matrix Composite (CMC) materials used in fighter jet engines compared to aircart, Aero-engines require ultra-high-temperature SiC/SiC for hot sections (~1,300°C–1,600°C+), while aircraft structural/airframe applications often prioritize weight reduction and moderate heat. You cannot Just modify a 5th generation engine into VCE ,this involves a profound redesign of the engine architecture to allow it to function efficiently across a wide range of speeds , to add a 3rd stream you have change the whole dimension of the engine & need to redesign the internal dimensions. So it's not as easy as you say.,......

I'm confused. What are you referring to when it comes to CMCs?

The Safran CMC that's been commercialized and in use is in GE's engines for the turbine blades. It's called LEAP. It is SiC/SiC.

Within the M88, they use it for stators and liners within the hot section along with the nozzles.

AMCA's engine, we will retain nickel until overhaul. Post-AMCA engine, 140 kN, it's up to us how we go about it. I guess it depends on the airframe we want to power using it.

XA101 was originally the F-35's engine modified into a VCE. It's called Growth Option 2.0 and can be applied to existing F-35s. It was done without any changes to the hot core. The same is an option for AMCA.

You are partially right, it cannot be done on any engine, but it can be done on F135, M88, and the new AMCA engine because all these are two-stream engines already. To add the third stream, all they need is a new duct in the fan stage, hence the easy conversion. Single stream engines need to go through a lot of all that unrealistic trouble.

 

[sahil singh]

I'm confused. What are you referring to when it comes to CMCs?

The Safran CMC that's been commercialized and in use is in GE's engines for the turbine blades. It's called LEAP. It is SiC/SiC.

Within the M88, they use it for stators and liners within the hot section along with the nozzles.

AMCA's engine, we will retain nickel until overhaul. Post-AMCA engine, 140 kN, it's up to us how we go about it. I guess it depends on the airframe we want to power using it.

XA101 was originally the F-35's engine modified into a VCE. It's called Growth Option 2.0 and can be applied to existing F-35s. It was done without any changes to the hot core. The same is an option for AMCA.

You are partially right, it cannot be done on any engine, but it can be done on F135, M88, and the new AMCA engine because all these are two-stream engines already. To add the third stream, all they need is a new duct in the fan stage, hence the easy conversion. Single stream engines need to go through a lot of all that unrealistic trouble.

I got confused on CMC


First, the X101 (initial phase) used only the core of the F135 engine, not the entire engine. Furthermore, they had to redesign the X101's entire airstream to accommodate the third stream, and both its outer and inner dimensions are wider than the F135's. All turbofan engines use two streams—but that doesn't mean you can convert them to VCE.


Adding a third stream requires:
new fan architecture (multi-stage flow split), variable area bypass injectors, complex control rules that's why it is too complicated.

One more thing: the LEAP engine uses a CMC shroud, not CMC turbine blades , It is manufactured by GE, not Safran.

 

[babablacksheep]

Okay, let's see.

In 2017, I predicted on PeeDF that CPEC will fail by 2021-22. And I even pointed out how exactly, starting with the power sector, and how the system is rigged to fail. I provided examples of the cost of production and the cost of building the plants and the transmission lines relative to ours. And by 2021-22, Pakistani news articles confirmed my prediction to a tee.

Similarly, I predicted in 2018 that once the S-400s are introduced, PAF will become entirely defensive and helpless, that they will be pushed back towards the Af-Pak axis. Happened exactly as I predicted in Sindoor. I had also predicted we will buy 5 more squadrons.

When the Pakistanis were pushing the narrative of buying every jet on the planet in response to the Rafale deal I had predicted that the JF-17 B3's gonna be trash and that the only options for PAF will be J-10C and J-31. All 3 claims confirmed.

Back in 2017, I had posted the exact configuration of the LCA Mk1A even before Mk1A and MWF were announced. I was insulted and banned by this guy called Oscar only for making that post. They couldn't handle it I guess.

All that just on PeeDF.

On Indian forums, I had predicted the exact number of jets the IAF and IN need, and it's happening exactly as per that. The IN's numbers once again came to doubt very recently on the forum, which I corrected back to what I had always claimed. Picdel had also claimed that I had claimed IN would need 150 Rafales, and I pointed out that those numbers have not changed, the bulk have just switched over to TEDBF instead. I had claimed instead that the 26 Rafales will jump up by 13 to 31 more.

The previous decade I had predicted that the HTT-40 will only be delivered well after 2025, that's happening. I also predicted ATAGS will take until 2028 for inductions, so that's happening in 2027. I had also pointed out that the main gun requirement will be met by something else via competition.

I had predicted the SLEP of IL-76 too. When the media was reporting IL-76 will be withdrawn by 2035, I had pointed out that a bunch of them will be upgraded and will continue until 2050, so that's happening. The same thing is now repeating with Vikramaditya.

Of course, I always knew we will get Rafales in large numbers, so that's practically undisputed, irrespective of multiple members claiming not more than 36 will be bought. I had predicted we will import 6th gen, that's happening too.

When Ignorants was complaining about our indigenous sub program and how it's gonna be very late, I had predicted that as soon as P-75I is signed, we will initiate P-76 contrary to his claim of starting it after P-75I is delivered. So that's happening. I had also claimed that SSNs will happen before SSKs. So that's happened too.

When Ka-226T began to die and the media was reporting the death of all light imported helicopters via official sources, I had pointed out that all three services will get imported helicopters apart from HAL's, and now that's happening.

I claimed we will get DEW by 2021 years before that for which Ignorants mocked me, and then we got confirmation that we had one such weapon to protect Trump when he came to India in 2020.

Operationally too, I had once claimed that Pak's subs are useless for second strike against South India due to the very short cycle between conventional and nuclear, less than 3 days, within our conditions, and the short range of Babur. And Op Sindoor proved that with Pak moving nukes right after the PAF got decimated.

Politically, I had predicted mass immigration of third worlders like Indians into the UK right after Brexit. Apparently, "no one" could predict this, analysts still claim. But I have made multiple posts about it even before Covid. @BMD dismissed it back then, and I told him to wait and watch.

I had predicted massive growth in the defense budgets of Europe too before Covid, that France's spending will be doubled. Even that's happening even though our European members had dismissed it back then.

I had also claimed before Covid that we will start seeing a massive rise in our capital budget from 2025 onwards, and that's begun too.

And these are only what I could remember off the top of my head.

So let's get this straight. How many analysts do you know who can make predictions in such a wide variety of topics and still get this many right? It's such a big deal to see someone getting just one thing right, never mind this many consistently back-to-back.

Sure, I got some misses. But I've got more hits than misses. And it's not like I keep changing my "stories" to make things fit. I claim something, I stick to it, and then there's a pretty good chance of it happening, rather than not.

@Tatvamasi once claimed I speak of future events like it's a fact. And Ignorants mocks my "2022" claims too, which have largely come true as well, irrespective of his insults. So here's a kick-a*s 2022 prediction where I spoke facts well before it happened.

Post in thread 'Project 75 India Diesel-electric Submarine Programs (SSK) : Updates and Discussions'

Dec 3, 2022

If so, they what according to you, may be a possible timeline for RFP of MMRCA and negotiation and signing period , also for P75I.

I will just bookmark it, and if you turn out right, then you can say "I said so" or the other way round.

P-75I, if we have two OEMs, assuming a tender start in Aug 2023, then we could see a winner chosen between end-2024 and mid-2025. Contract signature has too many variables to guess, it could take 6 months or 2 years. We love to haggle. I'd say the contract will be signed anytime in 2026. Dunno what's the plan if only the Koreans participate.

MRFA...

• randomradio

Dec 3, 2022
P-75I: I'd say the contract will be signed anytime in 2026.

MRFA: If Rafale wins, a signature will be done within 6-12 months, well before mid-2027.
A more optimistic date for a Rafale victory should give us a signature in the second half of 2026.

Wait, what? It's like someone from MoD or PMO literally whispered it in my ears back in 2022.

How many people have you seen making such an accurate prediction? It's obvious my work speaks for itself at this point.

@Ankit Kumar
I had to bring up post 1041 prematurely, but it's happening as stated.

All good and well but where is the source from GTRE's side of working on VCE with the french?


Also this is you

Mig-29 will begin phase out from 2027. So the IAF is likely confident that the LCA Mk2 will start delivering by then.

this is also you

Mirage 2000 has a lot more life than 2035 and we just ordered 100+ new engines for the Mig-29s. Retirement for both is supposed to be 2040s, at least for 2 squadrons from each type.

The need for Su-57 is gone. For jets powered by turbofans, Rafale will be the IAF's last major import.

Now, Here we have HAL looking to see if su57mki can be made domestically.

I don't wanna spend too much effort digging all your history, so I'll just leave it at that.




This is me

Your a professional storyteller as @_Anonymous_ says.
Sometimes it sticks Sometimes a miss.

 

[randomradio]

I got confused on CMC


First, the X101 (initial phase) used only the core of the F135 engine, not the entire engine. Furthermore, they had to redesign the X101's entire airstream to accommodate the third stream, and both its outer and inner dimensions are wider than the F135's. All turbofan engines use two streams—but that doesn't mean you can convert them to VCE.


Adding a third stream requires:
new fan architecture (multi-stage flow split), variable area bypass injectors, complex control rules that's why it is too complicated.

One more thing: the LEAP engine uses a CMC shroud, not CMC turbine blades , It is manufactured by GE, not Safran.

X101 uses the hot core, as already mentioned, and they combined that with a new fan stage. While it's slightly bigger, they still designed it to fit inside the F-35, albeit with modifications. The one you are referring to that doesn't fit inside the F-35 is with a redesigned core for 6th gen. The 5th stage engine was converted into VCE. So it has been done.

Upgrading the F135 to VCE can be done on existing engines during depot-level maintenance.

P&W offers F135 upgrade for depot insertion after 2023 - FlightGlobal

Pratt & Whitney will offer a drop-in thrust or fuel efficiency upgrade for the Lockheed Martin F-35’s engine as the fighter’s joint programme office develops options for the Block 4.2 upgrade package now scheduled to enter service in late 2023.Pratt & Whitney will offer a drop-in thrust or fuel...

www.flightglobal.com

So what you say cannot happen has already happened.

In our case, the French will make all the necessary integration points designed natively into the engine for a VCE upgrade. It will be a fully modular engine that fits like Lego bricks. M88 was designed the same way. It has 21 modules. Something breaks, you just replace the broken part and you're good to go. No need for recaliberation, no need for test bench. The production standardization is to such a degree, you can take a module out of any engine and fit it into another and run it. On our engine, all we have to do is replace the non-adaptive fan module with the adaptive one. The core and FADEC will also be VCE-ready.

And yeah, you are right about it being a shroud, the HPT itself is nickel. But yeah, it's still SiC-SiC and works within the hot core.

 

[randomradio]

All good and well but where is the source from GTRE's side of working on VCE with the french?

Then commoners have to wait.

Also this is you


this is also you

What's wrong with that?

The IAF decided recently that they were gonna further extend the life of the Mig-29 due to Mk1A delays

IAF seeks urgent upgradation of MiG-29 fighters to carry long-range, high-speed ground attack missiles - The Tribune

According to reports, India is in process of procuring 21 additional MiG-29s from Russia

www.tribuneindia.com

If you look closely, my first post was from 2022, my second post is from 2026. IAF decided in 2024.

This is the level of low IQ competition I need to deal with.

Now, Here we have HAL looking to see if su57mki can be made domestically.

Nope. Again, in 2022, I said Rafale will be the last import for local production. I always had the opinion that we will buy stopgap of Su-57 since 2018. But in 2024, I changed my mind about Su-57 due to new information and switched my sights to 6th gen, stopgap. But I had also stated at the time that any future fighter jet requiring import and production will come through a JV. No change in story, only change in characters.

So another low IQ argument.

Reality:

Su-57 or Rafale: India Has Not Made a Choice and Is Looking Toward the French

Ambassador Alipov: a decision on the contract has not yet been made

www1.ru

The Su-57 is what we are discussing. India has not made any statements and has not made any decisions regarding the Su-57. But we hope that we will have an opportunity to cooperate in this area.
-Denis Alipov, Russian Ambassador to India

Even the Russian ambassador says we haven't made a choice. So get out of the Russian lobby echochamber. Literally news from yestterday.

And since when did HAL decide anything for the IAF? Low IQ mein low IQ.

A simple clue that I have repeated always. If MoD is negotiating for something, the OEM cannot speak to the media about it, it's a contractual obligation. Su-57 is in the news every single week with OEMs having something to say, which means there's nothing official happening here.

Now Su-60 has to compete with Western 6th gen. And this is for the next modernization cycle, the one that starts with replacing the MKI. You should find and read up on the modernization cycle system I had explained many years ago, about how MKI, LCA, Rafale, and AMCA are all part of one cycle and how they will be replaced. Things are moving exactly as I had predicted, with only some very minor changes due to new information.

I don't wanna spend too much effort digging all your history, so I'll just leave it at that.

Go ahead, you will learn something. This time try to think. Match dates with new information for example. News is not always static.

This is me

Yes, yes, good attempt. Try to actually prove me wrong next time.

 

[babablacksheep]

Then commoners have to wait

Nice cope .

What's wrong with that?

Your predication are up for changes depending on the emerging situation, just like every other thing.
You are not a reliable source whose predication can be trusted, you jus5 cherry pick whatever prediction of your came true and Ignored whatever did not.

Nope. Again, in 2022, I said Rafale will be the last import for local production. I always had the opinion that we will buy stopgap of Su-57 since 2018. But in 2024, I changed my mind about Su-57 due to new information and switched my sights to 6th gen,

Thank you for accepting despite your ego, you'd had to change with emerging reality .

So another low IQ argument.

Another low iq attempt by you, trying to deflect from the topic.

The IAF decided recently that they were gonna further extend the life of the Mig-29 due to Mk1A delays

And that recent decision by iaf defies your predication.

. No change in story, only change in characters.

Characteristics changes the story.


this is the low iq egoistic retards i have to engage with.

Go ahead, you will learn something

I don't wanna be filled with mis info like you, so I kindly decline.

Yes, yes, good attempt. Try to actually prove me wrong next time.

Already did, tho you can continue living in your egoistic delusions.

* things are i going exactly i predict* lmao.


You know what I predict, we have pursue a VCE in future whether alone or with foreign OEM, I can predict this because its an obvious follow up of our engine program.
I can also predict we will have sub launched hypersonic missiles in future for same reasons.

Etc etc.

The Su-57 is what we are discussing. India has not made any statements and has not made any decisions regarding the Su-57

Now, Here we have HAL **LOOKING** to see if su57mki can be made domestically

Right now with this development your predication of rafale being the last domestically built foreign jet is already in doubt, for rest future with decide.

 

[sahil singh]

X101 uses the hot core, as already mentioned, and they combined that with a new fan stage. While it's slightly bigger, they still designed it to fit inside the F-35, albeit with modifications. The one you are referring to that doesn't fit inside the F-35 is with a redesigned core for 6th gen. The 5th stage engine was converted into VCE. So it has been done.

Upgrading the F135 to VCE can be done on existing engines during depot-level maintenance.

P&W offers F135 upgrade for depot insertion after 2023 - FlightGlobal

Pratt & Whitney will offer a drop-in thrust or fuel efficiency upgrade for the Lockheed Martin F-35’s engine as the fighter’s joint programme office develops options for the Block 4.2 upgrade package now scheduled to enter service in late 2023.Pratt & Whitney will offer a drop-in thrust or fuel...

www.flightglobal.com

So what you say cannot happen has already happened.

In our case, the French will make all the necessary integration points designed natively into the engine for a VCE upgrade. It will be a fully modular engine that fits like Lego bricks. M88 was designed the same way. It has 21 modules. Something breaks, you just replace the broken part and you're good to go. No need for recaliberation, no need for test bench. The production standardization is to such a degree, you can take a module out of any engine and fit it into another and run it. On our engine, all we have to do is replace the non-adaptive fan module with the adaptive one. The core and FADEC will also be VCE-ready.

And yeah, you are right about it being a shroud, the HPT itself is nickel. But yeah, it's still SiC-SiC and works within the hot core.

I never said it couldn't be done; I just said it wasn't as easy as you make it out to be. It's a complex process—as you mentioned—they combined it with a new fan stage. However, it was a bit larger, so its dimensions had to be redesigned, and it was re-engineered to fit properly inside the F-35—albeit with some modifications. that is what I wA trying to say.

 

[randomradio]

Nice cope .



Your predication are up for changes depending on the emerging situation, just like every other thing.
You are not a reliable source whose predication can be trusted, you jus5 cherry pick whatever prediction of your came true and Ignored whatever did not.


Thank you for accepting despite your ego, you'd had to change with emerging reality .




Another low iq attempt by you, trying to deflect from the topic.

And that recent decision by iaf defies your predication.



Characteristics changes the story.


this is the low iq egoistic retards i have to engage with.

I don't wanna be filled with mis info like you, so I kindly decline.



Already did, tho you can continue living in your egoistic delusions.

* things are i going exactly i predict* lmao.


You know what I predict, we have pursue a VCE in future whether alone or with foreign OEM, I can predict this because its an obvious follow up of our engine program.
I can also predict we will have sub launched hypersonic missiles in future for same reasons.

Etc etc.






Right now with this development your predication of rafale being the last domestically built foreign jet is already in doubt, for rest future with decide.

Wow, look at this gap between speaking and thinking. Of course positions change with new changes in state, that's the very reason for cause and effect.

The Mig-29 being phased out in 2027 wasn't a prediction, genius, it was a fact that was advertised by the IAF. And then it changed again when the IAF announced they have decided to get more time out of it.

What's funny is I had also said before IAF's announcement that the Mig-29 can have its life further extended to be phased out with Mirage 2000 if the IAF wants it to happen. This was at the time IAF decided to go for an extra squadron. And guess what? This happened too.

And your "prediction" of VCE or hypersonic missiles is not a prediction, it's stating the obvious.

A prediction is when you see future course of events with the least amount of information. I predicted that Russia will begin a massive modernization program and to counter that US and Europe will also increase their defense budgets to match. What clues were available back then? Practically nothing that plebs could discern, 'cause I was literally the only one who saw it coming. That's a prediction. In fact, I call that analysis, 'cause that's what it is.

HAL has been "looking" to produce Su-57 since the early 2000s. So what's new there? You are just talking about a 20-year wish for HAL. Will it happen? No. See, saying no to something that a lot of people are absolutely sure will happen is what counts. A lot of people are claiming Su-57 will be produced and some are claiming even a stopgap will happen. But I'm saying neither will happen. I said it in 2022, pointed out back then at least a stopgap purchase is possible, but not production. Then changed my mind to a 6th gen in 2024. I had also pointed out this ToT circus will end with Rafale, even that's coming true, 'cause the IAF is now looking at a JV. While I predicted a stopgap over JV, I am still the only one around who was convinced of a 6th gen import. Similarly, while people around are claiming ADA will develop 6th gen, ie, stating the obvious, I challenged that assertion and pointed out it will be a jet far closer to what will be a 7th gen due to the massive timegap between start and maturity while generating 6th gen capacities with AMCA NG and IN's next gen. Not stating the obvious is a prediction.

Every Tom, Dick, and Harry knew HTT-40 will be inducted, it was esentially stating the obvious. But I predicted when it will happen. HAL said 2018+, I said 2025+. Same with ATAGS, I predicted the numbers (300-400) and the when (2028). The same as my 2026 contract for P-75I and before mid-2027 for MRFA. THat's prediction.

The JV is happening because ADA said they can't deliver 6th gen in 2040. Who could predict a company on its own saying it can't meet the IAF's timeframe? Well, I did. But that's not the point. While I predicted ADA's inability to deliver a 6th gen that quickly, hence the need for a stopgap, it was quite difficult to predict the IAF actually jumping ship entirely. ADA was practically abandoned for 6th gen. I think a lot of people have still not realized that yet.

Predictions work on probabilities, not on definitives. It's non-deterministic through and through, that's why even with the same information, people cannot all come to the same conclusion. The fact is I have more obscure predictions that have come true than even most people that make obvious predictions.

You have a long way to go to even try and understand my posts it seems, never mind being able to keep up with my train of thought.

No, there's no source for you to click and read about a VCE for AMCA engine. Life isn't that easy. You need to piece together a complex jigsaw puzzle without actually touching the pieces. I just have the habit of dropping that picture before time on this forum. That's why I get my obscure predictions in that many numbers right.

 

[randomradio]

I never said it couldn't be done; I just said it wasn't as easy as you make it out to be. It's a complex process—as you mentioned—they combined it with a new fan stage. However, it was a bit larger, so its dimensions had to be redesigned, and it was re-engineered to fit properly inside the F-35—albeit with some modifications. that is what I wA trying to say.

Okay, we were always on the same page then.

Anyway, the 120 kN has a short cycle for certification of just 7 years, so the VCE upgrade won't be done during this time. But Rajnath's clue of having GTRE develop a 6th gen within 5-7 years indicates he wants a 6th gen upgrade available for production within 12 years, which matches the timeframe for the 140 kN upgrade.

They are essentially calling the VCE upgrade as a "5th gen on steroids."

 

[babablacksheep]

Wow, look at this gap between speaking and thinking. Of course positions change with new changes in state, that's the very reason for cause and effect.

The Mig-29 being phased out in 2027 wasn't a prediction, genius, it was a fact that was advertised by the IAF. And then it changed again when the IAF announced they have decided to get more time out of it.

What's funny is I had also said before IAF's announcement that the Mig-29 can have its life further extended to be phased out with Mirage 2000 if the IAF wants it to happen. This was at the time IAF decided to go for an extra squadron. And guess what? This happened too.

And your "prediction" of VCE or hypersonic missiles is not a prediction, it's stating the obvious.

A prediction is when you see future course of events with the least amount of information. I predicted that Russia will begin a massive modernization program and to counter that US and Europe will also increase their defense budgets to match. What clues were available back then? Practically nothing that plebs could discern, 'cause I was literally the only one who saw it coming. That's a prediction. In fact, I call that analysis, 'cause that's what it is.

HAL has been "looking" to produce Su-57 since the early 2000s. So what's new there? You are just talking about a 20-year wish for HAL. Will it happen? No. See, saying no to something that a lot of people are absolutely sure will happen is what counts. A lot of people are claiming Su-57 will be produced and some are claiming even a stopgap will happen. But I'm saying neither will happen. I said it in 2022, pointed out back then at least a stopgap purchase is possible, but not production. Then changed my mind to a 6th gen in 2024. I had also pointed out this ToT circus will end with Rafale, even that's coming true, 'cause the IAF is now looking at a JV. While I predicted a stopgap over JV, I am still the only one around who was convinced of a 6th gen import. Similarly, while people around are claiming ADA will develop 6th gen, ie, stating the obvious, I challenged that assertion and pointed out it will be a jet far closer to what will be a 7th gen due to the massive timegap between start and maturity while generating 6th gen capacities with AMCA NG and IN's next gen. Not stating the obvious is a prediction.

Every Tom, Dick, and Harry knew HTT-40 will be inducted, it was esentially stating the obvious. But I predicted when it will happen. HAL said 2018+, I said 2025+. Same with ATAGS, I predicted the numbers (300-400) and the when (2028). The same as my 2026 contract for P-75I and before mid-2027 for MRFA. THat's prediction.

The JV is happening because ADA said they can't deliver 6th gen in 2040. Who could predict a company on its own saying it can't meet the IAF's timeframe? Well, I did. But that's not the point. While I predicted ADA's inability to deliver a 6th gen that quickly, hence the need for a stopgap, it was quite difficult to predict the IAF actually jumping ship entirely. ADA was practically abandoned for 6th gen. I think a lot of people have still not realized that yet.

Predictions work on probabilities, not on definitives. It's non-deterministic through and through, that's why even with the same information, people cannot all come to the same conclusion. The fact is I have more obscure predictions that have come true than even most people that make obvious predictions.

You have a long way to go to even try and understand my posts it seems, never mind being able to keep up with my train of thought.

No, there's no source for you to click and read about a VCE for AMCA engine. Life isn't that easy. You need to piece together a complex jigsaw puzzle without actually touching the pieces. I just have the habit of dropping that picture before time on this forum. That's why I get my obscure predictions in that many numbers right.

I ain't reading all that cope.

You are not a reliable source for any sort of info. & you can't back up your claims with any credible source.

 

[_Anonymous_]

To be fair the picture that I paint is realistic.

But where did I suggest the picture you paint is unrealistic. Not sure why're you so cut up at being clubbed with you know who unless you think he's being unrealistic & making up things.

If this sarkaar cut down on the reservations and gibs giving to every tom dick and harry we could save some money. Invest in actual restructuring of the military instead of piece meal orders for testing. Fixing abusive schemes like agniveer. Actually expanding the size of the military and creating further infrastructure for it.
Modernising the military but half of the Army doesn't even know how to wear Bulletproof jackets.
They need to increase and expand investment in infrastructure massively. Need to set up mass production facilities with strict quality standards.
It could be done enmasse if you actually could actually do land distribution. But somehow cannot even redistribute whatever it controls properly.

Defence is not a priority with Modi . I mean if after 12 years you guys haven't figured this one out then there's little to talk about for if this government was serious about the matter they'd have done what they should've even with the kind of freebies being doled out.

Modi is fiscally conservative in the extreme. Part of the reason we aren't seeing much panic given the latest situation in the ME. Of course his fiscal conservativism is only part of the story ,his deft handling of foreign policy & manoeuvring thru extremely tricky situations before & now are also equally to be considered among other factors.

This approach should also explain why we could get out of the pandemic with relatively little damage to the economy as compared to the global situation especially developed countries with recovery being faster than observed with other countries.

 

[babablacksheep]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2047916097886904718

 

[Rajput Lion]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2047916097886904718

This is going to be the fighter which should form our next backbone. Induct it in huge numbers(say close to 500), in improved batches, and watch how our squadron depletion problem is permanently solved. Imported fighters can't solve our depleting squdron problem and expecting them to do so is completely asinine and also would prove very expensive.

 

[babablacksheep]

This is going to be the fighter which should form our next backbone. Induct it in huge numbers(say close to 500), in improved batches, and watch how our squadron depletion problem is permanently solved. Imported fighters can't solve our depleting squdron problem and expecting them to do so is completely asinine and also would prove very expensive.

The best scenerio is see is, it getting 200+ orders.

 

[Rajput Lion]

The best scenerio is see is, it getting 200+ orders.

200+ is a given, IMO. But LCA MK2 could be the perfect panacea for most of our reduced squadron problem. Due to the threat of a 2-front war, we need both quality and quantity. MK2, thanks to being a single-engined jet has much reduced maintenance, fuel costs, life-cycle costs, high-surge and sortie rates etc. It also has CAP endurance of 2 hours on just internal fuel, much reduced RCS when compared to MK1 as well. The advantages are numerous. If we are smart then ordering this jet in huge numbers is a no brainer choice. Let's see.

 

[Rune]

200+ is not a given. Currently it will only replace Mirage and Mig-29 squadrons, so 6 squadrons.

 

[Rajput Lion]

200+ is not a given. Currently it will only replace Mirage and Mig-29 squadrons, so 6 squadrons.

The old sanctioned squadron number of 42 is now passe. 120 is just initial projection, final number would be well beyond 200. Mark it.

 

[Rune]

The old sanctioned squadron number of 42 is now passe. 120 is just initial projection, final number would be well beyond 200. Mark it.

Let them get to 42 squadrons of modern aircrafts in next 15 years. We can talk about additional squadrons after that.