Kashmir : Counter Terror Operation Updates and Discussions

Gautam

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The twitter link i gave in my previous post was wrong. It should have been the link you posted. However my queries remain. Repeating them again...

PDF guys say that (i) these currency noted were in circulation in the 90s, and they have not been accepted for more than a decade, (ii) why would terrorists carry Pakistani rupees, Pakistani ID card, Pakistani health insurance card and Pakistani bank card (American Express card which is not used in Pak) so that their identity can be confirmed?

Hence PDF guys say that it's a false operation. What's the counter to their points?

You want my advice ? Don't waste your time. You can try as hard as possible it will change nothing. No argument has ever been won on the internet.

Let them believe whatever they want to believe. The belief has no tangible output.
 

thinkingcap81

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You want my advice ? Don't waste your time. You can try as hard as possible it will change nothing. No argument has ever been won on the internet.

Let them believe whatever they want to believe. The belief has no tangible output.
I understand, it's not about winning any arguments. They can profess their innocence as much as they want - the world does not believe them and they are gradually becoming more and more isolated. But for this particular case the lacuna are glaring unless they are lying about the notes and the credit card.
 

jetray

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The twitter link i gave in my previous post was wrong. It should have been the link you posted. However my queries remain. Repeating them again...

PDF guys say that (i) these currency noted were in circulation in the 90s, and they have not been accepted for more than a decade, (ii) why would terrorists carry Pakistani rupees, Pakistani ID card, Pakistani health insurance card and Pakistani bank card (American Express card which is not used in Pak) so that their identity can be confirmed?

Hence PDF guys say that it's a false operation. What's the counter to their points?
They are called pathological liars for a good reason. Its not just against India but ask americans as well they will also tell the same.
 

Lolwa

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They are called pathological liars for a good reason. Its not just against India but ask americans as well they will also tell the same.
You can know they are setting up the false flag narrative to absolve themselves from any responsibility. Smart tactic..
 

Lolwa

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Both are saying almost same thing on counter terrorism ops, prawin as usual poured his hat towards India in his tweet.
What they need to do is make CRPF equivalent to Russian National guard with similar levels of equipment. Buy second hand armour and equipment from ex-Warsaw pact states.
Make NSG do the main of door kicking everywhere. Either disband the RR or make RR a seperate independent force along with the Assam rifles.
Basically in terms of heirarchy of Operations.
NSG=GIGN/GSG9 (cqb specialists)
RR and Assam rifles in a unified command with seperate procurement=RAID/BOPE
CRPF=Russian National guard/Turkish gendarmerie
Put all the the three under a single command like the People's armed police. The best performing guys join the NSG from both these units and make IB their Intelligence gathering branch. Our internal security is extremely haphazard and it leads to operational failures.

Rest of the army should be completely seperated from these roles. At best deputations can happen from the armed forces into RR and they should have a choice either to move in NSG or back to the Army.



Sawhney does praise the Pakistanis at comical levels but his criticisms haven't been wrong. Uptill the Congress era he had decent observations when he wrote in FORCE. Now he's become a Pakistani shill.
 

Hydra

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Sawhney does praise the Pakistanis at comical levels but his criticisms haven't been wrong. Uptill the Congress era he had decent observations when he wrote in FORCE. Now he's become a Pakistani shill.
Never heard about him till 2019. So I cannot comment about his behaviour before that. But what understood after I start following him is that he is having vengeance on IA star generals, and always criticise our military military some time he even use inappropriate wordings, may be reaction for not getting promotion on time.
But some of the cricisism he raises are having some weightage weightage.
What they need to do is make CRPF equivalent to Russian National guard with similar levels of equipment. Buy second hand armour and equipment from ex-Warsaw pact states.
Make NSG do the main of door kicking everywhere. Either disband the RR or make RR a seperate independent force along with the Assam rifles.
Basically in terms of heirarchy of Operations.
NSG=GIGN/GSG9 (cqb specialists)
RR and Assam rifles in a unified command with seperate procurement=RAID/BOPE
CRPF=Russian National guard/Turkish gendarmerie
Put all the the three under a single command like the People's armed police. The best performing guys join the NSG from both these units and make IB their Intelligence gathering branch. Our internal security is extremely haphazard and it leads to operational failures.

Rest of the army should be completely seperated from these roles. At best deputations can happen from the armed forces into RR and they should have a choice either to move in NSG or back to the Army.
Exactly,our counter insurgency role should be handled with state police & crpf.
 

Lolwa

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Never heard about him till 2019. So I cannot comment about his behaviour before that. But what understood after I start following him is that he is having vengeance on IA star generals, and always criticise our military military some time he even use inappropriate wordings, may be reaction for not getting promotion on time.
Funnily it was because of him I started following defence related stuff. I have even met him in his Noida office he is a pretty decent guy although nowadays he must be taking fat cheques from the Pakistanis and chinese to write such shill articles. He used to criticize the army in the congress days too. I remember him writing about advising inducting ac-130's in the army for CAS roles but said the higher command had no idea that these systems even existed in the first place. FORCE and IMR were the only good magazines during those times. It's quite sad that he's become so anti-India because his politics doesn't align with Modi. Maybe because of Ghazal Wahab and his circle of Mohammadans.
 

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For stopping the infiltration in J&K border areas a simple solution would be to create a border road that will run parallel to the border of Pakistan. This road will help the people of the state as well as control terrorist infiltration since any infiltration attempt has to cross this border road.
 

thinkingcap81

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For stopping the infiltration in J&K border areas a simple solution would be to create a border road that will run parallel to the border of Pakistan. This road will help the people of the state as well as control terrorist infiltration since any infiltration attempt has to cross this border road.
Infiltration occurs in places that are too difficult to monitor such as culverts and small rivulets which shift patterns, vegetation that camouflages thermal camera sensors and so on. How can a road be constructed in such places?

To construct a road we need to change the terrain itself, and that's a monumental task.

In future perhaps we could use some AI enabled automated machines that are permanently stationed in such areas and provide real-time feedback.
 

Lolwa

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Modi govt will take action around election only, nothing is going to happen before that.
Maybe we release Chinese prisoners' photos also at that time.
We have last 9 soldiers till now. 7 terrorists dead. But the guys who killed our 5 are still free. Seem quite adept at guerrilla warfare. Definitely afghan units.
 
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