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HAL Indian Multirole Helicopter (IMRH) : Updates & Discussions
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All that was before the CBI stepped in.
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I had already mentioned it, in my world it's innocent until proven guilty.
Does any of our choppers have Fly by Wire ?
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FYI Z 20 is the first Chinese rotorcraft to use fly by wire
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FYI Z 20 is the first Chinese rotorcraft to use fly by wire
The best part is the IMRH coming in 2025-27 too won't have FBW. Besides the helos coming around that time line in Europe & US will probably have FBL if not FBW & state of the art design. HAL seems content to rehash old designs & IAF / IA seem resigned to it's fate with most members here agreeing it's the best we can do & it's not even 2022 yet - the magical year for those who came in late which was supposed to revolutionize & revitalise our defense industry & acquisitions.
So after decades of experience with Shakthi engine,we still looking abroad for another Turboshaft engine instead of developing by our own.
If this is the case,how we will get self sufficient with jet engine? No matter who haves the tech (RR or snecma) we will not develop another engine.
I'm wondering how you came to that conclusion from my post.
HAL HTFE-25 & Other Indigenous Aero Engines Developments
The latest milestone in aircraft engine development that Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd unveiled, counted with its other helicopter engines project, may be two new tiny steps which, however, may be no match for the giant gap that exists for indigenous aero engines, experts in the field say. The...
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#Hydra logicI'm wondering how you came to that conclusion from my post.
HAL HTFE-25 & Other Indigenous Aero Engines Developments
The latest milestone in aircraft engine development that Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd unveiled, counted with its other helicopter engines project, may be two new tiny steps which, however, may be no match for the giant gap that exists for indigenous aero engines, experts in the field say. The...
Its too expensive. What we have on current helicopters is halfway there. HAL has developed AFCS which is a digital four-axis flight control system.
Army Slow To Adapt Fly-by-Wire Controls for Helicopters
Army Slow To Adapt Fly-by-Wire Controls for Helicopters
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Its too expensive. What we have on current helicopters is halfway there. HAL has developed AFCS which is a digital four-axis flight control system.
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Although it's expensive, the real problems are difficulty in future modifications and immature technology which makes it dangerous when operating over the Himalayas where manual control is more important.
There's no point in getting FBW if the pilot has to resort to manual control most of the time. Operating in treacherous conditions requires highly skilled and experienced pilots, FBW is a liability in those conditions. Maybe 10 or 20 years down the line it will become mature enough to be used anywhere.
As a layman, we're expected to believe that an ecosystem that developed as complicated a FCL as for the LCA program ( touchwood, no crashes till date) can't develop a FCL for the IMRH!!
Why isn't Selective optimism castrated, Eshwin? After all so many videos of mine of your rival Ameit lands up in the bin. @Ashwin
Why isn't Selective optimism castrated, Eshwin? After all so many videos of mine of your rival Ameit lands up in the bin. @Ashwin
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Indian Navy to take part in massive helicopter development project
The next stage where the prototypes are to be built will require a fund infusion for the estimated `10,000 crore project that would replace all Russian origin Mi 8/17s currently in service.
I was under the impression these hptrs were to be powered by the indigenously built HTSE series.
Never was the case. IMRH need almost twice the power compared to whatever HAL is developing.
We're developing the 25KN HTFE aren't we ? How long would modification & certification take ?
It's a TD project using internal funding. Can't even say it will be a success at this point. Certification is 5+ years away.
The first IMRH prototype itself is expected to fly in 2025-26 with a full 5 yr certification period to follow.
Sometimes the Indian aerospace ecosystem amazes me . Here we had Tejas & not having built a single jet fighter ( discounting the Marut experience which by the 1980's had become redundant) or having the necessary industrial ecosystem or expertise we went in for indigenous design, R&D of the engine , avionics like radar, etc, FCL, FBW, composite skin, etc.
Today, here we are with the IMRH a full 2 decades + of having successfully developed a full family of light hptrs viz ALH with it's various iterations & derivatives & what are we attempting in the next project? Zero . We've swung to the opposite end of the pendulum.
The IMRH isn't a revolutionary design, there's no FBW, we aren't even attempting to build an indigenous engine. Forget revolutionary, we aren't even going evolutionary.
Being ex HAL, I'd be very interested in your take on this . @Milspec