Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

I was waiting for someone quoting Sambit Patra. Didn't he say there is no ticket counter open as per MHA so how will they get ticket? Well here are few "tickets" without ticket counter.

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Thats incomplete information if not outright lie. Here -


As I have said above initial migrant workers were charged for tickets and when it was reported in media this whole drama of 85%-15% is being created.

Government following what I said, they are not just doubling down on lies but trying to establish a lie so blatantly even when evidence is publicly available. It's "demonetization was successful" saga all over again.


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This article lists many instances where migrants were charged, with amount and who collected it. I will quote one-

The community also collected the travel fare amount from them and gave us the list. An officer of the rank of Deputy Collector went with the community leader to the railway station and collected the 1,200 tickets and paid the fare amount to the railway authorities

Lies, lies and more lies. So far there has been 4-5 breakdown of 85% fare. Some include already subsidy given 43%, some include return back of empty train but so far not one has provided exact breakup of 85% because it doesn't exists.

They charged from migrant workers and now lying, lying and more lying.

Let's look at the tickets I shared.

From Nasik Road to Bhopal Junction Normal fare is 200-215Rs (screenshot attached) but they were charged 305Rs.

100Rs over the normal fare!
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Here is the ticket confirming it -

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Look at the pathetic attempt to lie, even after tickets in public where they are overcharging workers they are trying to prove they paid 85%!

Nokss try more, come back with more lies from Patra or others, let's see how far they go.
 
There's a discussion in the US on how China should pay and the US refusing to repay Chinese loans is one of them.

That is super great, the trillion dollar treasury notes held by China will then be used as toilet paper
 
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Pressure mounts on India to call out China for Covid as it readies to take lead role at WHO

The US and Australia want India to take a ‘firm stand’ against China for the Covid-19 crisis when it assumes the charge of WHO’s executive board by May-end.


By Nayanima Basu
2 May, 2020 12:58 pm IST
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File image of Narendra Modi meeting Chinese President Xi Jinping during the 11th BRICS Summit | PTI

New Delhi
: India is believed to have already come under pressure from some of its strategic allies and “like-minded democracies” such as Australia and the US to take a “firm stand” against China as it gears up to assume a decisive role at the World Health Organisation (WHO) later this month.

India will be assuming charge of the Geneva-based WHO’s executive board (EB) by May-end. The 34-member executive board, which is elected for a three-year term, will take the final call on India’s nomination at its 147th session, which will be held via video conference on 22 May, a WHO spokesperson told ThePrint.

The main functions of the board are to implement the decisions and policies of the World Health Assembly (WHA), which is the main decision-making body of the WHO, advise it on various matters and generally help facilitate its work.

However, with China coming under the scanner for its alleged role in the spread of the novel coronavirus, it will not be all rosy for New Delhi.

India is being nudged by some of its strategic allies such as the US, Australia, Japan and others to speak against China when it comes at the helm of affairs at the WHO, diplomatic sources told ThePrint.

In a recent phone-call between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Australian counterpart Scott Morrison, Australia is believed to have urged India that as a “natural partner and like-minded democracy”, Canberra expects New Delhi to stand with it as it prepares to launch a full-fledged inquiry against China and the origin of novel coronavirus from Wuhan.

The public spat between Canberra and Beijing is an indication of deteriorating diplomatic ties between both the countries, which was brewing for quite some time now.

Sources also said Canberra will directly take up the issue with New Delhi when both Modi and Morrison hold a virtual summit meeting in May-June.

This meeting between the two leaders was expected to take place in January, but got cancelled due to the bushfire crisis.

Sources said Australia wants this to be a larger part of the discourse to be held under the framework of the Indo-Pacific, in which Japan is also a key partner.

“If the pandemic is to have any influence on Australia’s strategy, it will be to accelerate the very trends that brought Australia and India so close together… I believe this crisis will bring Australia and India even closer together as two Indian Ocean democracies with complementary values,” said Barry O’Farrell, High Commissioner-Designate of Australia to India during a speech at the National Defence College on 22 April.

US wants India to push for reforms at WHO

The US, meanwhile, has also activated its diplomatic channels to push India to “come down heavily on China”, according to a top diplomatic source.

The source said Washington wants New Delhi to push for greater reforms and find alternate ways to bring in more transparency, while also urging China to “come up clean” regarding the origin and spread of the virus.

While Trump and Modi had a telephonic conversation in March, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar have spoken several times in the past weeks.

Sources said the issue of India assuming a larger role at the WHO figured several times during the discussions between the two countries.

The Trump administration has called coronavirus a “Chinese virus” or “Wuhan virus” many times to target Beijing even as the relationship between the two nations was worsening with a raging trade war much before the outbreak took place.

On Thursday, Trump said his administration has launched a probe into the role of the WHO with regard to the coronavirus pandemic.

“I think that the World Health Organization should be ashamed of themselves because they are like the public relations agency for China,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

He also said the US pays the WHO almost $500 million a year and China pays them $38 million a year.

“Whether it’s a lot more, it doesn’t matter. They shouldn’t be making excuses when people make horrible mistakes, especially mistakes that are causing hundreds of thousands of people around the world to die,” Trump said.

Earlier this month, during a teleconference with south and central Asian journalists, Pompeo had said the WHO has been “unable” to hold China accountable for the pandemic and called for sharing of “information, data and facts” from China.

PM Modi wants to strengthen WHO

Without targeting Beijing directly, Prime Minister Modi had stressed on the need to “strengthen and reform” the WHO during the Extraordinary Virtual G20 Leaders’ Summit held on 26 March.

During the summit, Modi had also said that since initially the WHO did not have the mandate to deal with a pandemic of this scale, therefore, it is critical to empower the organisation, “be it in terms of its capacity of early warning or development of effective vaccines, or capacity-building.”

Experts said India needed to be cautious on how it pressed the WHO leadership with regard to dealing with China and it should avoid a direct confrontation with Beijing.

“India’s new lead role in the WHO will give it an opportunity to wield more influence within a preeminent organisation perceived to be openly siding with China during the recent pandemic. India will need to be cautious in terms of how it presses the WHO leadership on China, given the importance of China’s role in the global response, problematic though it may be and given New Delhi’s own complex relationship with Beijing,” said Michael Kugelman, deputy director of the Asia Programme at the Wilson Center in Washington.

“This all flows into the broader question for India of what role it should play in the growing global consensus to take a harder line on China,” he added.

According to former foreign secretary Kanwal Sibal, it will not be conducive for India to “directly confront” China at a time when Beijing is important to fight the pandemic.

“This is more an election rhetoric by the US. So India should avoid a direct confrontation of any kind with the Chinese. Yes, this is a good opportunity for India to bring about change at the WHO in whichever way it can. We need to work within the organisation to change it and see how it can deal with or prevent future pandemics,” said Sibal.

Sibal also said India should “continue to emphasise on transparency much on the lines that the US has been speaking” without directly naming China.

Besides, Sibal also highlighted that when the powerful G-7 countries had shied away from making a statement against China during a summit meeting held on Covid-19 in March, then India should also act cautiously.

The G-7 nations are Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Pressure mounts on India to call out China for Covid as it readies to take lead role at WHO
 
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This post from another forum was very telling:

"My speculation about the Sars cov 2 worldwide spreading:
December 2019, meeting of the Chinese Communist party: Mr president, we are hit by a new dangerous virus for which we need at least 4 months to get it under control. We have two possibilities: We localize it, stop its spreading and all the consequences remain only for us: 10-15% drop in the GDP and the whole world pointing the finger right at us and laugh at us, Possibility 2 we stop the spreading internally but allow the people of Wuhan to travel all around the world. In that way we will make it a worldwide problem, from which we will be the first to escape, and we will have the least consequences compared to all the big economies. We will be able to increase our zone of influence, will improve our image by helping the rest of the world and will buy western companies on half the price.
I'm sure the meeting didn't last too long. "
 
Pressure mounts on India to call out China for Covid as it readies to take lead role at WHO

The US and Australia want India to take a ‘firm stand’ against China for the Covid-19 crisis when it assumes the charge of WHO’s executive board by May-end.

By Nayanima Basu
2 May, 2020 12:58 pm IST
View attachment 15758
File image of Narendra Modi meeting Chinese President Xi Jinping during the 11th BRICS Summit | PTI

New Delhi
: India is believed to have already come under pressure from some of its strategic allies and “like-minded democracies” such as Australia and the US to take a “firm stand” against China as it gears up to assume a decisive role at the World Health Organisation (WHO) later this month.

India will be assuming charge of the Geneva-based WHO’s executive board (EB) by May-end. The 34-member executive board, which is elected for a three-year term, will take the final call on India’s nomination at its 147th session, which will be held via video conference on 22 May, a WHO spokesperson told ThePrint.

The main functions of the board are to implement the decisions and policies of the World Health Assembly (WHA), which is the main decision-making body of the WHO, advise it on various matters and generally help facilitate its work.

However, with China coming under the scanner for its alleged role in the spread of the novel coronavirus, it will not be all rosy for New Delhi.

India is being nudged by some of its strategic allies such as the US, Australia, Japan and others to speak against China when it comes at the helm of affairs at the WHO, diplomatic sources told ThePrint.

In a recent phone-call between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Australian counterpart Scott Morrison, Australia is believed to have urged India that as a “natural partner and like-minded democracy”, Canberra expects New Delhi to stand with it as it prepares to launch a full-fledged inquiry against China and the origin of novel coronavirus from Wuhan.

The public spat between Canberra and Beijing is an indication of deteriorating diplomatic ties between both the countries, which was brewing for quite some time now.

Sources also said Canberra will directly take up the issue with New Delhi when both Modi and Morrison hold a virtual summit meeting in May-June.

This meeting between the two leaders was expected to take place in January, but got cancelled due to the bushfire crisis.

Sources said Australia wants this to be a larger part of the discourse to be held under the framework of the Indo-Pacific, in which Japan is also a key partner.

“If the pandemic is to have any influence on Australia’s strategy, it will be to accelerate the very trends that brought Australia and India so close together… I believe this crisis will bring Australia and India even closer together as two Indian Ocean democracies with complementary values,” said Barry O’Farrell, High Commissioner-Designate of Australia to India during a speech at the National Defence College on 22 April.

US wants India to push for reforms at WHO

The US, meanwhile, has also activated its diplomatic channels to push India to “come down heavily on China”, according to a top diplomatic source.

The source said Washington wants New Delhi to push for greater reforms and find alternate ways to bring in more transparency, while also urging China to “come up clean” regarding the origin and spread of the virus.

While Trump and Modi had a telephonic conversation in March, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar have spoken several times in the past weeks.

Sources said the issue of India assuming a larger role at the WHO figured several times during the discussions between the two countries.

The Trump administration has called coronavirus a “Chinese virus” or “Wuhan virus” many times to target Beijing even as the relationship between the two nations was worsening with a raging trade war much before the outbreak took place.

On Thursday, Trump said his administration has launched a probe into the role of the WHO with regard to the coronavirus pandemic.

“I think that the World Health Organization should be ashamed of themselves because they are like the public relations agency for China,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

He also said the US pays the WHO almost $500 million a year and China pays them $38 million a year.

“Whether it’s a lot more, it doesn’t matter. They shouldn’t be making excuses when people make horrible mistakes, especially mistakes that are causing hundreds of thousands of people around the world to die,” Trump said.

Earlier this month, during a teleconference with south and central Asian journalists, Pompeo had said the WHO has been “unable” to hold China accountable for the pandemic and called for sharing of “information, data and facts” from China.

PM Modi wants to strengthen WHO

Without targeting Beijing directly, Prime Minister Modi had stressed on the need to “strengthen and reform” the WHO during the Extraordinary Virtual G20 Leaders’ Summit held on 26 March.

During the summit, Modi had also said that since initially the WHO did not have the mandate to deal with a pandemic of this scale, therefore, it is critical to empower the organisation, “be it in terms of its capacity of early warning or development of effective vaccines, or capacity-building.”

Experts said India needed to be cautious on how it pressed the WHO leadership with regard to dealing with China and it should avoid a direct confrontation with Beijing.

“India’s new lead role in the WHO will give it an opportunity to wield more influence within a preeminent organisation perceived to be openly siding with China during the recent pandemic. India will need to be cautious in terms of how it presses the WHO leadership on China, given the importance of China’s role in the global response, problematic though it may be and given New Delhi’s own complex relationship with Beijing,” said Michael Kugelman, deputy director of the Asia Programme at the Wilson Center in Washington.

“This all flows into the broader question for India of what role it should play in the growing global consensus to take a harder line on China,” he added.

According to former foreign secretary Kanwal Sibal, it will not be conducive for India to “directly confront” China at a time when Beijing is important to fight the pandemic.

“This is more an election rhetoric by the US. So India should avoid a direct confrontation of any kind with the Chinese. Yes, this is a good opportunity for India to bring about change at the WHO in whichever way it can. We need to work within the organisation to change it and see how it can deal with or prevent future pandemics,” said Sibal.

Sibal also said India should “continue to emphasise on transparency much on the lines that the US has been speaking” without directly naming China.

Besides, Sibal also highlighted that when the powerful G-7 countries had shied away from making a statement against China during a summit meeting held on Covid-19 in March, then India should also act cautiously.

The G-7 nations are Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Pressure mounts on India to call out China for Covid as it readies to take lead role at WHO
Dont fall for this foolishness of like minded democracies, they will sell you out within seconds, they never bothered to remember it when it comes to UNSC or terrorism, everyone want their cut then even to condemn terrorism.

Instead India should improve relations with China, they are weak, they are isolated, they are desperate, they may or may not remember our support in long run for kind of shitbird they are but in short term they can be used to punish Pakistan severely. West has no other option but to maintain friendly relations with us. They won't be best friends no matter how much you appease them and they won't be enemy either if you go little easy on China after making deal.
 

Details couldn't be uploaded y'day as data from some states weren't received. Following is the details of yesterday


4/05/2020

Yesterday's tally - 3840
Total tally - 46554


4/05/2020

Maharashtra

Yesterday's tally - 771
Total tally - 14541



Apparently, the clods at Maharashtra health ministry aren't even conversant with how to use MS Excel. Hence, 1500+ cases outside of Mumbai which weren't accounted for on 3/05 got carried forward & added to the tally of 4/05. The absolute state of affairs in Maharashtra.





4/05/2020

Mumbai

Yesterday's tally - 510
Total tally - 9310
 
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Covid-19: 5 million HCQ tablets shipped from India arrive in Canada

The Indian Consulate in Toronto tweeted, “India-Canada cooperation continues in these critical times.”


 
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India Gives 2 Lakh HCQ Tablets, Medical Supplies To Myanmar

The medical supplies sent by India also include surgical pumps, infusion pumps, syringe pumps, glucometer, thermal scanners and medical air compressors.


Covid-19: 5 million HCQ tablets shipped from India arrive in Canada

The Indian Consulate in Toronto tweeted, “India-Canada cooperation continues in these critical times.”

Frankly, I don't quite get how effective these HCQ tablets are, but they're sure getting us good press. Good advertisement for the Modi government. Lots of form with very little content.

So much so that Paxtan has insisted that the sole Bayer plant there start manufacturing these tablets for export to their Aqas in the middle East.
 
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