Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

Coronavirus NSW: Dossier lays out case against China bat virus program
China deliberately suppressed or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus outbreak in an “assault on international transparency’’ that cost tens of thousands of lives, according to a dossier prepared by concerned Western governments on the COVID-19 contagion.
The 15-page research document, obtained by The Saturday Telegraph, lays the foundation for the case of negligence being mounted against China.

It states that to the “endangerment of other countries” the Chinese government covered-up news of the virus by silencing or “disappearing” doctors who spoke out, destroying evidence of it in laboratories and refusing to provide live samples to international scientists who were working on a vaccine.

The P4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan in China's central Hubei province. Picture: Hector Retamal/AFP
The P4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan in China's central Hubei province. Picture: Hector Retamal/AFP

It can also be revealed the Australian government trained and funded a team of Chinese scientists who belong to a laboratory which went on to genetically modify deadly coronaviruses that could be transmitted from bats to humans and had no cure, and is now the subject of a probe into the origins of COVID-19.

As intelligence agencies investigate whether the virus inadvertently leaked from a Wuhan laboratory, the team and its research led by scientist Shi Zhengli feature in the dossier prepared by Western governments that points to several studies they conducted as areas of concern.

It cites their work discovering samples of coronavirus from a cave in the Yunnan province with striking genetic similarity to COVID-19, along with their research synthesising a bat-derived coronavirus that could not be treated.

Its major themes include the “deadly denial of human-to-human transmission”, the silencing or “disappearing” of doctors and scientists who spoke out, the destruction of evidence of the virus from genomic studies laboratories, and “bleaching of wildlife market stalls”, along with the refusal to provide live virus samples to international scientists working on a vaccine.

Key figures of the Wuhan Institute of Virology team, who feature in the government dossier, were either trained or employed in the CSIRO’s Australian Animal Health Laboratory where they conducted foundational research on deadly pathogens in live bats, including SARS, as part of an ongoing partnership between the CSIRO and the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

This partnership continues to this day, according to the website of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, despite concerns the research is too risky.

Politicians in the Morrison government are speaking out about the national security and biosecurity concerns of this relationship as the controversial research into bat-related viruses now comes into sharp focus amid the investigation by the Five Eyes intelligence agencies of the United States, Australia, NZ, Canada and the UK.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is speaking out in the interests of national security and biosecurity. Picture: Mick Tsikas/AAP
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is speaking out in the interests of national security and biosecurity. Picture: Mick Tsikas/AAP

RISKY BAT RESEARCH
In Wuhan, in China’s Hubei province, not far from the now infamous Wuhan wet market, Dr Shi and her team work in high-protective gear in level-three and level-four bio-containment laboratories studying deadly bat-derived coronaviruses.

At least one of the estimated 50 virus samples Dr Shi has in her laboratory is a 96 per cent genetic match to COVID-19. When Dr Shi heard the news about the outbreak of a new pneumonia-like virus, she spoke about the sleepless nights she suffered worrying whether it was her lab that was responsible for the outbreak.

As she told Scientific American magazine in an article published this week: “Could they have come from our lab?” Since her initial fears, Dr Shi has satisfied herself the genetic sequence of COVID-19 did not match any her lab was studying.

Yet, given the extent of the People’s Republic of China’s lies, obfuscations and angry refusal to allow any investigation into the origin of the outbreak, her laboratory is now being closely looked at by international intelligence agencies.

The Australian government’s position is that the virus most likely originated in the Wuhan wet market but that there is a remote possibility — a 5 per cent chance — it accidentally leaked from a laboratory.

The US’s position, according to reports this week, is that it is more likely the virus leaked from a laboratory but it could also have come from a wet market that trades and slaughters wild animals, where other diseases including the H5N1 avian flu and SARS originated.

CREATING MORE DEADLY VIRUSES
The Western governments’ research paper confirms this.

It notes a 2013 study conducted by a team of researchers, including Dr Shi, who collected a sample of horseshoe bat faeces from a cave in Yunnan province, China, which was later found to contain a virus 96.2 per cent identical to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that caused COVID-19.

The research dossier also references work done by the team to synthesise SARS-like coronaviruses, to analyse whether they could be transmissible from bats to mammals. This means they were altering parts of the virus to test whether it was transmissible to different species.

Their November 2015 study, done in conjunction with the University of North Carolina, concluded that the SARS-like virus could jump directly from bats to humans and there was no treatment that could help.

The study acknowledges the incredible danger of the work they were conducting.

“The potential to prepare for and mitigate future outbreaks must be weighed against the risk of creating more dangerous pathogens,” they wrote.

You have to be a scientist to understand it, but below is the line that the governments’ research paper references from the study.

“To examine the emergence potential (that is, the potential to infect humans) of circulating bat CoVs, we built a chimeric virus encoding a novel, zoonotic CoV spike protein — from the RsSHCO14-CoV sequence that was isolated from Chinese horseshoe bats — in the context of the SARS-CoV mouse-adapted backbone,” the study states.

One of Dr Shi’s co-authors on that paper, Professor Ralph Baric from North Carolina University, said in an interview with Science Daily at the time: “This virus is highly pathogenic and treatments developed against the original SARS virus in 2002 and the ZMapp drugs used to fight ebola fail to neutralise and control this particular virus.”

President Xi Jinping waves to a coronavirus patient and medical staff via a video link at the Huoshenshan hospital in Wuhan on March 10. Picture: Xie Huanchi/XINHUA/AFP
President Xi Jinping waves to a coronavirus patient and medical staff via a video link at the Huoshenshan hospital in Wuhan on March 10. Picture: Xie Huanchi/XINHUA/AFP

A few years later, in March 2019, Dr Shi and her team, including Peng Zhou, who worked in Australia for five years, published a review titled Bat Coronaviruses in China in the medical journal Viruses, where they wrote that they “aim to predict virus hot spots and their cross-species transmission potential”, describing it as a matter of “urgency to study bat coronaviruses in China to understand their potential of causing another outbreak. Their review stated: “It is highly likely that future SARS or MERS like coronavirus outbreaks will originate from bats, and there is an increased probability that this will occur in China.”

It examined which proteins were “important for interspecies transmission”.

Despite intelligence probes into whether her laboratory may have been responsible for the outbreak, Dr Shi is not hitting pause on her research, which she argues is more important than ever in preventing a pandemic. She plans to head a national project to systemically sample viruses in bat caves, with estimates that there are more than 5000 coronavirus strains “waiting to be discovered in bats globally”.

“Bat-borne coronaviruses will cause more outbreaks,” she told Scientific American. “We must find them before they find us.”

AUSTRALIA’S INVOLVEMENT
Dr Shi, the director of the Centre for Emerging Infectious Diseases at the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Wuhan Institute of Virology, spent time in Australia as a visiting scientist for three months from February 22 to May 21, 2006, where she worked at the CSIRO’s top-level Australian Animal Health Laboratory, which has recently been renamed.

The CSIRO would not comment on what work she undertook during her time here, but an archived and translated biography on the Wuhan Institute of Virology website states that she was working with the SARS virus.

“The SARS virus antibodies and genes were tested in the State Key Laboratory of Virology in Wuhan and the Animal Health Research Laboratory in Geelong, Australia,” it states.

The Telegraph has obtained two photographs of her working at the CSIRO laboratories, including in the level-four lab, in 2006.

Shi Zhengli, director of the Centre for Emerging Infectious Diseases at the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Wuhan Institute of Virology, who working in Australia in 2006.
Shi Zhengli, director of the Centre for Emerging Infectious Diseases at the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Wuhan Institute of Virology, who working in Australia in 2006.

Dr Shi’s protégé, Peng Zhou — now the head of the Bat Virus Infection and Immunity Project at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — spent three years at the bio-containment facility Australian Animal Health Laboratory between 2011 and 2014. He was sent by China to complete his doctorate at the CSIRO from 2009-2010.

During this time, Dr Zhou arranged for wild-caught bats to be transported alive by air from Queensland to the lab in Victoria where they were euthanised for dissection and studied for deadly viruses.

Dr Linfa Wang, while an Honorary Professor of the Wuhan Institute of Virology between 2005 and 2011, also worked in the CSIRO Office of the Chief Executive Science Leader in Virology between 2008 and 2011.

Federal Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson said it was “very concerning” that Chinese scientists had been conducting research into bat viruses at the CSIRO in Geelong, Victoria, in jointly funded projects between the Australian and Chinese governments.

“We need to exercise extreme care with any research projects involving foreign nationals which may compromise our national security or biosecurity,” she said.

While the US has cut all funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the CSIRO would not respond to questions about whether it is still collaborating with it, saying only that it collaborates with research organisations from around the world to prevent diseases.

“As with all partners, CSIRO undertakes due diligence and takes security very seriously,” a spokesman said. “CSIRO undertakes all research in accordance with strict biosecurity and legislative requirements.”

IS THE RESEARCH WORTH THE RISK?
The US withdrew funding from controversial experiments that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread dangerous viruses in October 2014, concerned it could lead to a global pandemic.

The pause on funding for 21 “gain of function” studies was then lifted in December 2017.

Despite the concerns, the CSIRO continued to partner and fund research with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The CSIRO refused to respond to questions from The Saturday Telegraph about how much money went into joint research collaboration with the Chinese Academy of Science and its Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The Wuhan Institute still lists the CSIRO as a partner while the US has cut ties since the coronavirus outbreak.

The argument is whether it is worth developing these viruses to anticipate and prevent a pandemic when a leak of the virus could also cause one. Debate in the scientific community is heated.

There have also been serious concerns about a lack of adequate safety practices at the Wuhan Institute of Virology when dealing with deadly viruses.

A ‘‘Sensitive but Unclassified’’ cable, dated January 19, 2018, obtained by The Washington Post, revealed that US embassy scientists and diplomats in Beijing visited the laboratory and sent warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety practices and management weaknesses as it conducted research on coronaviruses from bats.

“During interactions with scientists at the WIV laboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” the cable stated.

Australian Animal Health Laboratory, in East Geelong, is part of the CSIRO. Picture: Andy Rogers
Australian Animal Health Laboratory, in East Geelong, is part of the CSIRO. Picture: Andy Rogers

UNLIKELY CLAIMS VIRUS CREATED IN LAB
Scientific consensus is that the virus came from a wetmarket. But the US’s top spy agency confirmed on the record for the first time yesterday that the US intelligence committee is investigating whether COVID-19 was the result of an accident at a Wuhan laboratory.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence acting director Richard Grenell said the virus was not created in a laboratory.

“The entire Intelligence Community has been consistently providing critical support to US policymakers and those responding to the COVID-19 virus, which originated in China,” he said.

“The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified. As we do in all crises, the Community’s experts respond by surging resources and producing critical intelligence on issues vital to US national security. The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”

Despite Mr Grenell’s statement and scientific consensus that the virus was not created in a laboratory, based on its genome sequence the governments’ research paper obtained by The Telegraph notes a study that claims it was created.

South China University of Technology researchers published a study on February 6 that concluded “the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan. Safety level may need to be reinforced in high-risk biohazards laboratories”.

“The paper is soon withdrawn because it ‘was not supported by direct proofs’, according to author Botao Xiano,” the dossier noted, continuing to point out that: ‘“No scientists have confirmed or refuted the paper’s findings’, scholar Yanzhong Huang wrote on March 5.”

The Saturday Telegraph does not claim that the South China University of Technology study is credible, only that it has been included in this government research paper produced as part of the case against China.

CHINA’S COVER-UP OF EARLY SAMPLES
The paper obtained by The Saturday Telegraph speaks about “the suppression and destruction of evidence” and points to “virus samples ordered destroyed at genomics labs, wildlife market stalls bleached, the genome sequence not shared publicly, the Shanghai lab closure for ‘rectification’, academic articles subjected to prior review by the Ministry of Science and Technology and data on asymptomatic ‘silent carriers’ kept secret”.

It paints a picture of how the Chinese government deliberately covered up the coronavirus by silencing doctors who spoke out, destroying evidence from the Wuhan laboratory and refusing to provide live virus samples to international scientists working on a vaccine.

The US, along with other countries, has repeatedly demanded a live virus sample from the first batch of coronavirus cases. This is understood to have not been forthcoming despite its vital importance in developing a vaccine while potentially providing an indication of where the virus originated.

THE LAB WORKER WHO DISAPPEARED
Out of all the doctors, activists, journalists and scientists who have reportedly disappeared after speaking out about the coronavirus or criticising the response of Chinese authorities, no case is more intriguing and worrying than that of Huang Yan Ling.

A researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the South China Morning Post reported rumours swirling on Chinese social media that she was the first to be diagnosed with the disease and was “patient zero”.

Then came her reported disappearance, with her biography and image deleted from the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s website.

On February 16 the institute denied she was patient zero and said she was alive and well, but there has been no proof of life since then, fanning speculation.

US President Donald Trump has been urging China to be transparent about how the virus spread. Picture: Mandel Ngan/AFP
US President Donald Trump has been urging China to be transparent about how the virus spread. Picture: Mandel Ngan/AFP

DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE
On December 31, Chinese authorities started censoring news of the virus from search engines, deleting terms including “SARS variation, “Wuhan Seafood market” and “Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.”

On January 1 without any investigation into where the virus originated from, the Wuhan seafood market was closed and disinfected.

It has been reported in the New York Times that individual animals and cages were not swabbed “eliminating evidence of what animal might have been the source of the coronavirus and which people had become infected but survived”. The Hubei health commission ordered genomics companies to stop testing for the new virus and to destroy all samples. A day later, on January 3, China’s leading health authority, the National Health Commission, ordered Wuhan pneumonia samples be moved to designated testing facilities or destroyed, while instructing a no-publication order related to the unknown disease.

Doctors who bravely spoke out about the new virus were detained and condemned. Their detentions were splashed across the Chinese-state media with a call from Wuhan Police for “all citizens to not fabricate rumours, not spread rumours, not believe rumours.”

A tweet from the Global Times on January 2 states: “Police in Central China’s Wuhan arrested 8 people spreading rumours about local outbreak of unidentifiable #pneumonia. Previous online posts said it was SARS.” This had the intended effect of silencing other doctors who may have been inclined to speak out.

So the truth about the outbreak in China has remained shrouded in secrecy, with President Xi Jinping aggressively rejecting global calls for an inquiry.

The dossier is damning of China’s constant denials about the outbreak.

“Despite evidence of human-human transmission from early December, PRC authorities deny it until January 20,” it states.

“The World Health Organisation does the same. Yet officials in Taiwan raised concerns as early as December 31, as did experts in Hong Kong on January 4.”

The paper exposes the hypocrisy of China’s self-imposed travel bans while condemning those of Australia and the United States, declaring: “Millions of people leave Wuhan after the outbreak and before Beijing locks down the city on January 23.” “Thousands fly overseas. Throughout February, Beijing presses the US, Italy, India, Australia, Southeast Asian neighbours and others not to protect themselves via travel restrictions, even as the PRC imposes severe restrictions at home.” In the paper, the Western governments are pushing back at what they call an “assault on international transparency”.

“As EU diplomats prepare a report on the pandemic, PRC successfully presses Brussels to strike language on PRC disinformation,” it states.

“As Australia calls for an independent inquiry into the pandemic, PRC threatens to cut off trade with Australia. PRC has likewise responded furiously to US calls for transparency.”

Chair of Australia’s Joint Parliamentary Committee on Intelligence and Security Andrew Hastie said after the cover-up and disinformation campaign from China, the world needed transparency and an inquiry.

“So many Australians have been damaged by the mismanagement of COVID-19 by the Chinese government, and if we truly are as close as Beijing suggests we are then we need answers about how this all started,” he said.

KEY DATES IN COVID COVER-UP
NOVEMBER 9, 2015

Wuhan Institute of Virology publish a study revealing they created a new virus in the lab from SARS-CoV.

DECEMBER 6, 2019

Five days after a man linked to Wuhan’s seafood market presented pneumonia-like symptoms, his wife contracts it, suggesting human to human transmission.

DECEMBER 27

China’s health authorities told a novel disease, then affecting some 180 patients, was caused by a new coronavirus.

DECEMBER 26-30

Evidence of new virus emerges from Wuhan patient data.

DECEMBER 31

Chinese internet authorities begin censoring terms from social media such as Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.

JANUARY 1, 2020

Eight Wuhan doctors who warned about new virus are detained and condemned.

JANUARY 3

China’s top health authority issues a gag order.

JANUARY 5

Wuhan Municipal Health Commission stops releasing daily updates on new cases. Continues until January 18.

JANUARY 10

PRC official Wang Guangfa says outbreak “under control” and mostly a “mild condition”.

JANUARY 12

Professor Zhang Yongzhen’s lab in Shanghai is closed by authorities for “rectification”, one day after it shares genomic sequence data with the world for the first time.

JANUARY 14

PRC National Health Commission chief Ma Xiaowei privately warns colleagues the virus is likely to develop into a major public health event.

JANUARY 24

Officials in Beijing prevent the Wuhan Institute of Virology from sharing sample isolates with the University of Texas.

FEBRUARY 6

China’s internet watchdog tightens controls on social media platforms.

FEBRUARY 9

Citizen-journalist and local businessman Fang Bin disappears.

APRIL 17

Wuhan belatedly raises its official fatalities by 1290.
 
Leaked ‘Five Eyes’ dossier on alleged Chinese coronavirus coverup consistent with US findings, officials say
A research dossier compiled by the so-called “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance, that reportedly concludes China intentionally hid or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus pandemic, is consistent with U.S. findings about the origins of the outbreak so far, senior U.S. officials told Fox News on Saturday.

The 15-page document from the intelligence agencies of the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia and New Zealand, was obtained by Australia's Saturday Telegraph newspaper and finds that China's secrecy amounted to an “assault on international transparency."

The dossier, which is likely to further increase pressure on the Chinese government to explain its actions and early statements, points to the initial denial by the government that the virus could be transmitted between humans, the silencing of doctors, destruction of evidence, and a refusal to provide samples to scientists working on a vaccine.

While U.S. intelligence is not confirming the existence of the 15-page document, a senior official told Fox that reports of the document aligns with U.S. intelligence that China knew the spread between humans earlier than it said, that it knew it was a novel coronavirus earlier than it said and that it was spread wider than they reported to the international community in the first weeks of the outbreak.

But there are some exceptions. In particular, Australia believes the virus originated in a wet market, as the Chinese have claimed. However, the U.S. intelligence community has not yet determined this and is still leaning away from that theory.

Fox News first reported last month that there is increasing confidence from U.S. officials that the virus likely escaped from the lab in Wuhan, where the naturally-occurring strain was being studied not as a bioweapon but as part of a Chinese effort to show that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or greater than those of the U.S. This would be at odds with claims the outbreak originated at a nearby wet market. The U.S. is investigating the matter.

President Trump said Thursday that he's seen evidence suggesting the virus came from a lab after Fox News and others asked if he knew of anything that gave him confidence that the outbreak originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

President Trump 'not happy' about intelligence reports on China's role in COVID-19 pandemicVideo
A senior intelligence source told Fox News on Saturday that most, as many as 70-75 percent, of the 17 U.S. intelligence agencies believe it came from a laboratory but the remaining agencies cannot yet agree as there is not a “smoking gun.”

The source said that the agencies have come down to two potential origins for the accident - animal-human transmission, or a mistake in the lab, but there is evidence of both options with most leaning toward the laboratory explanation -- although both scenarios are attributable to mistakes.

The source told Fox that the reports show "how duplicitous the Chinese have been" in regard to information about the origins and spread of the virus and that "the impact of their secrecy has really shaken our allies."

“Everyone is furious with the Chinese,” the source said.

Meanwhile, no public evidence has yet been presented to definitively point to the lab scenario, and Defense sources who have spoken to Fox News say it is being viewed as simply one of two theories about how the outbreak began.

The new “Five Eyes” dossier finds that China began censoring news of the virus on search engines and social media beginning Dec. 31, deleting terms including “SARS variation," “Wuhan Seafood market” and “Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.”

Three days later, on Jan. 3, China’s National Health Commission ordered virus samples to be either moved to designated testing facilities or destroyed, while simultaneously issuing a "no-publication order" related to the disease.

China isn't a reliable partner: Former CIA station chiefVideo
The Saturday Telegraph report includes a timeline of Chinese obfuscation. On Jan. 5, for example, Wuhan's Municipal Health Commission stopped releasing daily updates on the number of new cases and would not resume them for 13 days. On Jan. 10, Wang Guanga, a respiratory specialist at Peking University First Hospital who had been investigating the outbreak, said it was "under control" and largely a "mild condition." (Wang himself would disclose 12 days later that he had been infected with the virus.)

Two days later, on Jan. 12, a Shanghai professor's lab was closed down after it shared data on the virus' genetic sequence with the outside world. On Jan. 24, Chinese officials stopped the Wuhan Institute of Virology from sharing virus samples with a lab at the University of Texas.

The dossier also concludes that Chinese authorities denied that the virus could be spread between humans until Jan. 20, "despite evidence of human-human transmission from early December."

The file is similarly critical about the World Health Organization (WHO), stating that it toed the Chinese line about human-to-human transmission despite the fact that "officials in Taiwan raised concerns as early as December 31, as did experts in Hong Kong on January 4.”

Fox News reported last month that the WHO -- which President Trump paused funding to last month over its role in the crisis -- was either complicit in the coverup, or looked the other way. The WHO and China have denied any wrongdoing.

The dossier goes on to state that throughout February, "Beijing [pressed] the U.S., Italy, India, Australia, Southeast Asian neighbours [sic] and others not to protect themselves via travel restrictions, even as [China] impose[d] severe restrictions at home."

At the same time, the file states: "Millions of people
Wuhan after the outbreak and before Beijing lock[ed] down the city on January 23."

On Friday, WHO officials said that it was assured that the virus is “natural in origin."

“We have listened again and again to numerous scientists who have looked at the sequence and looked at the virus and we are assured that this virus is natural in origin,” Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of WHO’s Health Emergencies Program, said at a press conference when asked about the virus’ origins.

“What is important is that we establish what that natural host for this virus is, and the primary purpose of doing that is to ensure we understand the virus more, we understand the animal-human interface and we understand how the animal-human species barrier was breached,” he said.
 
Modiji and BJP are doing Everything to bring back Congress to Power
The bottomline is what message has BJP
Sent by charging Fares on Railway tickets

I think it was not done by BJP, they probably didn't even knew it happened or ignored it as railway did it to cover its *censored* for paper work as it's financial matter. When the damage was done they are now trying to confuse the public by lying and 85%-15% talk. They should have rather came forward apologized for it, announced they will refund whoever was charged and they were not in know. Indian public will forgive them in a minute.

But if strong leadership start to apologize and accept mistake how will it look strong? This arrogance will kill them.

Repeat of demonetization saga, now they will double down, triple down and lie more to somehow establish a lie.

If the migrant workers had been given
One week to go back , they would have done so between March 24 to 31
That would have taken away the punchline from rally don't you think? "I" stopped corona in my 8pm address.

Even if it spreads, its easier to contain, just like they did for Ebola in rural Africa.
There is no social distancing in villages, if it spread in village whole village and soon nearby villages will be infected. People don't lock themselves in house in villages instead they meet and meet and meet whole day.

Comparison between Ebola and Corona containment has less to do with Rural or Urban setting than difference in spread of disease. Anyone infected with Ebola will not be contagious unless symptoms start to occur, once symptoms starts you will be bed ridden very soon due to severity of symptoms perverting any spread and only if you come into contact of bodily fluids you are infected.

This is not the case with Covid19, you are contagious way before symptoms occur and in some cases there are no symptoms, during the period you are admitted to hospital and isolated you may have spread the virus unknowingly to many others, even the symptoms are similar to influenza which further leads to carelessness.
 

These extra 50Rs and fare from stranded workers without work from month will go long way in bailing out friends when they default in coming months.

Everyday a new fall from a government supposedly led by leader from humble background.

Fake News

85% paid central government and remaining 15% state government , in the end migrants pay nothing




Modiji and BJP are doing Everything to bring back Congress to Power



Typical congress way of fooling public , state and central government is paying the money the only state government which is not paying is the congress ruled mahrastra :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: and still these mrons have the audacity to act innocent



 
Leaked ‘Five Eyes’ dossier on alleged Chinese coronavirus coverup consistent with US findings, officials say
A research dossier compiled by the so-called “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance, that reportedly concludes China intentionally hid or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus pandemic, is consistent with U.S. findings about the origins of the outbreak so far, senior U.S. officials told Fox News on Saturday.

The 15-page document from the intelligence agencies of the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia and New Zealand, was obtained by Australia's Saturday Telegraph newspaper and finds that China's secrecy amounted to an “assault on international transparency."

The dossier, which is likely to further increase pressure on the Chinese government to explain its actions and early statements, points to the initial denial by the government that the virus could be transmitted between humans, the silencing of doctors, destruction of evidence, and a refusal to provide samples to scientists working on a vaccine.

While U.S. intelligence is not confirming the existence of the 15-page document, a senior official told Fox that reports of the document aligns with U.S. intelligence that China knew the spread between humans earlier than it said, that it knew it was a novel coronavirus earlier than it said and that it was spread wider than they reported to the international community in the first weeks of the outbreak.

But there are some exceptions. In particular, Australia believes the virus originated in a wet market, as the Chinese have claimed. However, the U.S. intelligence community has not yet determined this and is still leaning away from that theory.

Fox News first reported last month that there is increasing confidence from U.S. officials that the virus likely escaped from the lab in Wuhan, where the naturally-occurring strain was being studied not as a bioweapon but as part of a Chinese effort to show that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or greater than those of the U.S. This would be at odds with claims the outbreak originated at a nearby wet market. The U.S. is investigating the matter.

President Trump said Thursday that he's seen evidence suggesting the virus came from a lab after Fox News and others asked if he knew of anything that gave him confidence that the outbreak originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

President Trump 'not happy' about intelligence reports on China's role in COVID-19 pandemic'not happy' about intelligence reports on China's role in COVID-19 pandemicVideo
A senior intelligence source told Fox News on Saturday that most, as many as 70-75 percent, of the 17 U.S. intelligence agencies believe it came from a laboratory but the remaining agencies cannot yet agree as there is not a “smoking gun.”

The source said that the agencies have come down to two potential origins for the accident - animal-human transmission, or a mistake in the lab, but there is evidence of both options with most leaning toward the laboratory explanation -- although both scenarios are attributable to mistakes.

The source told Fox that the reports show "how duplicitous the Chinese have been" in regard to information about the origins and spread of the virus and that "the impact of their secrecy has really shaken our allies."

“Everyone is furious with the Chinese,” the source said.

Meanwhile, no public evidence has yet been presented to definitively point to the lab scenario, and Defense sources who have spoken to Fox News say it is being viewed as simply one of two theories about how the outbreak began.

The new “Five Eyes” dossier finds that China began censoring news of the virus on search engines and social media beginning Dec. 31, deleting terms including “SARS variation," “Wuhan Seafood market” and “Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.”

Three days later, on Jan. 3, China’s National Health Commission ordered virus samples to be either moved to designated testing facilities or destroyed, while simultaneously issuing a "no-publication order" related to the disease.

China isn't a reliable partner: Former CIA station chief't a reliable partner: Former CIA station chiefVideo
The Saturday Telegraph report includes a timeline of Chinese obfuscation. On Jan. 5, for example, Wuhan's Municipal Health Commission stopped releasing daily updates on the number of new cases and would not resume them for 13 days. On Jan. 10, Wang Guanga, a respiratory specialist at Peking University First Hospital who had been investigating the outbreak, said it was "under control" and largely a "mild condition." (Wang himself would disclose 12 days later that he had been infected with the virus.)

Two days later, on Jan. 12, a Shanghai professor's lab was closed down after it shared data on the virus' genetic sequence with the outside world. On Jan. 24, Chinese officials stopped the Wuhan Institute of Virology from sharing virus samples with a lab at the University of Texas.

The dossier also concludes that Chinese authorities denied that the virus could be spread between humans until Jan. 20, "despite evidence of human-human transmission from early December."

The file is similarly critical about the World Health Organization (WHO), stating that it toed the Chinese line about human-to-human transmission despite the fact that "officials in Taiwan raised concerns as early as December 31, as did experts in Hong Kong on January 4.”

Fox News reported last month that the WHO -- which President Trump paused funding to last month over its role in the crisis -- was either complicit in the coverup, or looked the other way. The WHO and China have denied any wrongdoing.

The dossier goes on to state that throughout February, "Beijing [pressed] the U.S., Italy, India, Australia, Southeast Asian neighbours [sic] and others not to protect themselves via travel restrictions, even as [China] impose[d] severe restrictions at home."

At the same time, the file states: "Millions of people
Wuhan after the outbreak and before Beijing lock[ed] down the city on January 23."

On Friday, WHO officials said that it was assured that the virus is “natural in origin."

“We have listened again and again to numerous scientists who have looked at the sequence and looked at the virus and we are assured that this virus is natural in origin,” Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of WHO’s Health Emergencies Program, said at a press conference when asked about the virus’ origins.

“What is important is that we establish what that natural host for this virus is, and the primary purpose of doing that is to ensure we understand the virus more, we understand the animal-human interface and we understand how the animal-human species barrier was breached,” he said.
They're going to pay a heavy economic cost as a minimum for this.
 
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I think it was not done by BJP, they probably didn't even knew it happened or ignored it as railway did it to cover its *censored* for paper work as it's financial matter. When the damage was done they are now trying to confuse the public by lying and 85%-15% talk. They should have rather came forward apologized for it, announced they will refund whoever was charged and they were not in know. Indian public will forgive them in a minute.

But if strong leadership start to apologize and accept mistake how will it look strong? This arrogance will kill them.

Repeat of demonetization saga, now they will double down, triple down and lie more to somehow establish a lie.


That would have taken away the punchline from rally don't you think? "I" stopped corona in my 8pm address.


There is no social distancing in villages, if it spread in village whole village and soon nearby villages will be infected. People don't lock themselves in house in villages instead they meet and meet and meet whole day.

Comparison between Ebola and Corona containment has less to do with Rural or Urban setting than difference in spread of disease. Anyone infected with Ebola will not be contagious unless symptoms start to occur, once symptoms starts you will be bed ridden very soon due to severity of symptoms perverting any spread and only if you come into contact of bodily fluids you are infected.

This is not the case with Covid19, you are contagious way before symptoms occur and in some cases there are no symptoms, during the period you are admitted to hospital and isolated you may have spread the virus unknowingly to many others, even the symptoms are similar to influenza which further leads to carelessness.


 
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85% paid central government and remaining 15% state government , in the end migrants pay nothing
I was waiting for someone quoting Sambit Patra. Didn't he say there is no ticket counter open as per MHA so how will they get ticket? Well here are few "tickets" without ticket counter.

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Thats incomplete information if not outright lie. Here -


As I have said above initial migrant workers were charged for tickets and when it was reported in media this whole drama of 85%-15% is being created.

Government following what I said, they are not just doubling down on lies but trying to establish a lie so blatantly even when evidence is publicly available. It's "demonetization was successful" saga all over again.
 
I think it was not done by BJP, they probably didn't even knew it happened or ignored it as railway did it to cover its *censored* for paper work as it's financial matter. When the damage was done they are now trying to confuse the public by lying and 85%-15% talk. They should have rather came forward apologized for it, announced they will refund whoever was charged and they were not in know. Indian public will forgive them in a minute.

But if strong leadership start to apologize and accept mistake how will it look strong? This arrogance will kill them.

Repeat of demonetization saga, now they will double down, triple down and lie more to somehow establish a lie.


That would have taken away the punchline from rally don't you think? "I" stopped corona in my 8pm address.


There is no social distancing in villages, if it spread in village whole village and soon nearby villages will be infected. People don't lock themselves in house in villages instead they meet and meet and meet whole day.

Comparison between Ebola and Corona containment has less to do with Rural or Urban setting than difference in spread of disease. Anyone infected with Ebola will not be contagious unless symptoms start to occur, once symptoms starts you will be bed ridden very soon due to severity of symptoms perverting any spread and only if you come into contact of bodily fluids you are infected.

This is not the case with Covid19, you are contagious way before symptoms occur and in some cases there are no symptoms, during the period you are admitted to hospital and isolated you may have spread the virus unknowingly to many others, even the symptoms are similar to influenza which further leads to carelessness.

The Government could have announced earlier that all.Rail journeys will be free
AND transferred ONE Thousand Crores
To Railways in just One day for all.this expenditure

But BJP is totally out of touch of reality
And public sentiments

The damage has been done to the Governments image

Only the blind will deny that
 
That would have taken away the punchline from rally don't you think? "I" stopped corona in my 8pm address.

Modi has himself given A Stick to the opposition

Now they will forever call him cruel
And Heartless

Let us see how much Money
Modi will have to spend to repair his image

At least 10 Thousand Rupees per Migrant worker must be paid as compensation , it will cost just 10 Thousand crores
 
The Government could have announced earlier that all.Rail journeys will be free
AND transferred ONE Thousand Crores
To Railways in just One day for all.this expenditure

But BJP is totally out of touch of reality
And public sentiments

The damage has been done to the Governments image

Only the blind will deny that
A coach can be booked for 50,000 and a train consists of around 24 coaches. For 12 Lacs you can book a train, that's the fair railway charges for commercial bookings.

For 120 crores you will have 1000 trains. Around same amount railway donated for PM CARES.

Stratfront members alone can donate a few trains if government can't find money.
 
A coach can be booked for 50,000 and a train consists of around 24 coaches. For 12 Lacs you can book a train, that's the fair railway charges for commercial bookings.

For 120 crores you will have 1000 trains. Around same amount railway donated for PM CARES.

Stratfront members alone can donate a few trains if government can't find money.

My calculation.was 1000 Rs per passenger -- which included Food and Water ; because of the non stop journey

The question is did the government act out of compassion --NO

They were doing it under public pressure

But Bureaucrats are insensitive , no big deal ; what happened to the BJP MPs and MLAs , Have they become so aloof from the poor Public that they dont
Know anything
 
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I did NOT vote for this Cruel and Inhuman Government

Especially when the poor have exhausted their savings and are going back only to prevent starvation and becoming beggars in Cities

Why this hatred for the poor

Just one month back they were the hard working labourers who ran your entire Unorganized Sector

Today they are being made.to beg
 
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There is no social distancing in villages, if it spread in village whole village and soon nearby villages will be infected. People don't lock themselves in house in villages instead they meet and meet and meet whole day.

meh.. still better than a 10 x 10 shanty with 6 folks, no food and money. At my hometown, there are zero cases and people are following lockdown measures. They are not congregating at the playgrounds for gossip nor are they attending 6 pm satsangs. Government was pledging 1000's of crores for CAA/NRC while they cant take care of the general population. Those two gujjus are nothing but morons.
 
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I did NOT vote for this Cruel and Inhuman Government

Especially when the poor have exhausted their savings and are going back only to prevent starvation and becoming beggars in Cities

Why this hatred for the poor

Just one month back they were the hard working labourers who ran your entire Unorganized Sector

Today they are being made.to beg
Common people are just goods to be used and then reused by the establishment. Less said the better.
 
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I did NOT vote for this Cruel and Inhuman Government

Especially when the poor have exhausted their savings and are going back only to prevent starvation and becoming beggars in Cities

Why this hatred for the poor

Just one month back they were the hard working labourers who ran your entire Unorganized Sector

Today they are being made.to beg

Not sure how you find hatred for poor here ? . Btw, the government will announce a package for MSME shortly . I do agree that this railway ticket nonsense should have been avoided , the problem i see is just one mistake and you guys will start calling him all sorts of names forgetting what he has done till now for poor

 
I was waiting for someone quoting Sambit Patra. Didn't he say there is no ticket counter open as per MHA so how will they get ticket? Well here are few "tickets" without ticket counter.

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Thats incomplete information if not outright lie. Here -


As I have said above initial migrant workers were charged for tickets and when it was reported in media this whole drama of 85%-15% is being created.

Government following what I said, they are not just doubling down on lies but trying to establish a lie so blatantly even when evidence is publicly available. It's "demonetization was successful" saga all over again.
Please allow me to put a information here which is public yet very less known. It's standard mechanism established by railways to charge the state automatically whenever railways authorities declare that railways will not sell any tickets. State has multiple options to pay. Further, it not only happens during disasters but also election related movement activities and more. And it happens almost every year and I don't feel any political parties are unaware of this. How it happened, even I am not sure and sincerely I feel ashamed for what happened with people.

Further adding, tickets are genuine. The existing mechanism is, railways issue the tickets in requested quantity directly to state authorities which in turn hand it over to needy person be it on official duty or affected person.
 
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