Chengdu J-10C for Pakistan

Pointing out that China has created theater commands so each theater is its own separate military. It's not as easily transferable to other commands as you think. Especially when China's enemies in other areas are stronger than India.



Our relationship right now is similar to the proverb, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

The current American goal is to make India subservient to them, which is unlikely to work out as long as Modi is in power. But if the US defeats China someday, then India will become their next target.

lmao really? If US defeats China, we'll kick up a beer and drink a cold one to eternal peace..
 
lmao really? If US defeats China, we'll kick up a beer and drink a cold one to eternal peace..
Does defeating China mean that no one will challenge the hegemony of the United States?
Sooner or later, the next great power will emerge in Eurasia
You think too simple,
The decline of the American hegemonic system has never been because of China, but because of the United States itself
 
If the F16 was not hit within the first two laps, the delta wing stall would have given the F16 victory.
NO.
It's the Mirage 2000 case your describe, not the Rafale one.
Mirage 2000 loss its energy faster than F16. It has higher instantaneous TR but inferior sustained TR than F16, so M2000 has to win in WVR fights at the beginning.
Rafale has better ITR and also better STR than F16 thanks to canards (less drag) and more powerfull engines. Even without after burner.
 
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There is a problem with this sentence. The IR MiCA missile uses a dual-color line scan imaging seeker, while the PL10 and AIM9X use an infrared staring focal plane imaging seeker.
Compared with PL10 and AIM9X, the imaging sensitivity of IR MiCA still has a certain gap.
It's true. This choice was made to reduce the seeker's susceptibility to directed energy weapons. You win in a field and loose in another...
To be honest, the only thing China has not been in contact with is the Rafale fighter. Needless to say, China is also a SU27/30/35 user.
The Mirage 2000 was prepared to be imported in China in 1988, but due to the price issue was not reached, the Sino-French relations eased in 2003, and Chinese pilots also flew the Mirage 2000 and conducted air combat training with French pilots.
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It's true, but not all the truth :
They were interested in Mirage 2000, but at the end they wanted to purchase... 2 units ! As we already knew they were copy and paste aces, the deal was not inked by the french side.
 
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The decline of the American hegemonic system has never been because of China, but because of the United States itself

I mean yeah I know, we have whone here to demonstrate that point.
The US helped bury Japan in the 80s.

The list of things USA doesn't get blamed for is like 1% vs 99% of blame.

Yes America did have some trade shenannigans, but that's nothing like what you're saying lmao. It was very small scale. Japan buried themselves in a credit, property, and demographic bubble.

Literally the housing prices haven't recovered to bubble point in 30 years lmao.
 
The purchase of J10 c happened because of the incapability of JF17 firing PL15 in full range may be due to the radar authorization limit. The J10 c does have 9 hardpoints whereas JF17 has 8... so not a bigger advantage. Yes, on the EW and ferry range J10 c does score more, and also the engine maintenance of Al31 is better than RD93.

The purchase of J10 C will stop the development of JF17 since the platform is now saturated and cannot be enhanced anymore...May be due to the design and engine limitation else the time period which India gave to Pakistan after the Rafale purchase Pakistan would have added all the required functionalities in JF17 with the help of china.
JF-17 fires PL 15 fine. J-10 C is being taken as it performs both Air to Air role and Air to Ground role. It would do both F-16 role for us and also Mirage role of being a deep strike jet. JF-17 BLOCK III is great but still it falls in category of light fighter jet. J-10 C is a medium category jet.
 
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JF-17 fires PL 15 fine. J-10 C is being taken as it performs both Air to Air role and Air to Ground role. It would do both F-16 role for us and also Mirage role of being a deep strike jet. JF-17 BLOCK III is great but still it falls in category of light fighter jet. J-10 C is a medium category jet.
Anyway, J10 c is a good purchase but I don't see there is a big shift in capabilities after buying J10 c. if JF17 is not a true multi-role fighter then J10 C acceptable. For Rafale, we got completely different capabilities from EW to Weapons systems all new capabilities that we ever operated . But in the case of J10 c, I don't see any new capabilities except it's a medium category multirole fighter.
 
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Moved all off-topic here:


Please keep the thread clean.
 
I mean yeah I know, we have whone here to demonstrate that point.

:ROFLMAO:

The list of things USA doesn't get blamed for is like 1% vs 99% of blame.

Yes America did have some trade shenannigans, but that's nothing like what you're saying lmao. It was very small scale. Japan buried themselves in a credit, property, and demographic bubble.

Literally the housing prices haven't recovered to bubble point in 30 years lmao.

Agreed. Which is why I said "help". The US-Japan trade war was amongst the causes of Japan's bubble burst.

Anyway, you really think the US won't act against India. What if I tell you that in 30 years the Indian market can become so big that Western companies may very well choose to shift their HQs to India and pay their taxes in Mumbai? 1.6 billion people is no joke. That's effectively 2 EUs + 2 US + 1 UK.

A bit too off-topic here.
 
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The J-10C has a bigger nose than the Rafale and can be fitted with a larger radar.