What worries me is the stone pelters.....If you look at their age, they are pretty young, and believe it or not these young minds are injected with hatred, and we are talking about one more generation which is gonna fight with forces...... This is not a good sign.....
Kashmir : An Illusive Solution
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Buddy, The J&K assembly has a total of 111 seats while the elections are held only for 87 seats as the two are for nominated members and other 21 seats fall in POK. The majority population of POK is Shia. Muftis and Abdullahs are Sunni. Jammu and Doda are Hindu/Shia majority. Only Kashmir valley is sunni majority with largest number of seats which decides who will form govt in J&K.
You might have read the recent comments of Farooqh Abdullah when he said that POK belongs to Pakistan. Why did he say it? The reason is simple, Muftis and Abudullahs will go out of power for ever once POK is integrated as the Shia population will ensure a majority for regions of J&K other than Kashmir valley. These people will never accept re-integration of POK with India for the very reason of their survival.
U do quite understand the long protest it will invite from the people and its political parties? If those had been done in 70's or 80's it would beeen possinle. With Internet and other stuffs its impossible to scrap now. Moreover people are now knowledgable on laws nowadays
Well it has to be done otherwise the situation will only get worse with the passage of time
Kashmir: 200 militants including 100 Pakistanis killed this year so far
NOVEMBER 30, 2017 KASHMIR LATEST NEWS
Srinagar
With the killing of five militants today in Northern and Central Kashmir, toll of militants killed this year during anti-militancy operations crossed 200 mark, a police official said.
He said that among the 200 slain militants 100 were non-local Pakistani nationals.
“100 local militants got killed this year in multiple gun battles across Kashmir Valley.”
Meanwhile, Jammu Kashmir Police Chief SP Vaid took to Twitter and wrote: “Today by the collective efforts of Jammu Kashmir Police, Indian Army, CRPF and people of Kashmir have led to neutralization of more than 200 militants in the year of 2017 alone. This marks a huge landmark for establishing peace and stability in the state of Jammu and Kashmir.”
Some of the top militant commanders killed this year included Abu Dujana, Bashir Lashkari, Abdullah Ghaznavi, Qayoom Najar, Mehmood Bhai, Umar Khatab from Pakistan killed at Hartar Sopore, Muzafar Ahmed Naiko alias Muza Molvi of Sopore killed at Gulzarpora Mohchu in Budgam, Abu Surag of Pakistan, Adil Ahmad Reshi of Bijbehara, Abid Ahmad Sheikh of Saktipora and Masood Ahmad Shah of Bewoora village killed in Awora Pahalgam, Abu Musaib of Pakistan killed at Parr Mohalla Hajin, Qari Anas and Abu Ali killed in Hadoora Ganderbal, Azaharuddin alias Ghazi Umar and Sajad Ahmed alias Babar killed in Amargarh Sopore, Mudasir Ahmad Tantray alias Asim of Redwani, Wakeel Ahmad Thokar of Harigam Kulgam, Farooq Ahmad Bhat of Chak Dasand and Younus Lone of Hawoora-Mishpora killed in Nagbal Frisal Kulgam, Mushtaq Ahmed Seer killed at Bandipora, Muhammad Shafi Sherguri and Jahangir Ahmed Ganaie killed at Padgampora, Ayoub Lelhari killed in Pulwama, Sabzar Ahmed killed at Saimou Tral and others. (CNS)
NOVEMBER 30, 2017 KASHMIR LATEST NEWS
Srinagar
With the killing of five militants today in Northern and Central Kashmir, toll of militants killed this year during anti-militancy operations crossed 200 mark, a police official said.
He said that among the 200 slain militants 100 were non-local Pakistani nationals.
“100 local militants got killed this year in multiple gun battles across Kashmir Valley.”
Meanwhile, Jammu Kashmir Police Chief SP Vaid took to Twitter and wrote: “Today by the collective efforts of Jammu Kashmir Police, Indian Army, CRPF and people of Kashmir have led to neutralization of more than 200 militants in the year of 2017 alone. This marks a huge landmark for establishing peace and stability in the state of Jammu and Kashmir.”
Some of the top militant commanders killed this year included Abu Dujana, Bashir Lashkari, Abdullah Ghaznavi, Qayoom Najar, Mehmood Bhai, Umar Khatab from Pakistan killed at Hartar Sopore, Muzafar Ahmed Naiko alias Muza Molvi of Sopore killed at Gulzarpora Mohchu in Budgam, Abu Surag of Pakistan, Adil Ahmad Reshi of Bijbehara, Abid Ahmad Sheikh of Saktipora and Masood Ahmad Shah of Bewoora village killed in Awora Pahalgam, Abu Musaib of Pakistan killed at Parr Mohalla Hajin, Qari Anas and Abu Ali killed in Hadoora Ganderbal, Azaharuddin alias Ghazi Umar and Sajad Ahmed alias Babar killed in Amargarh Sopore, Mudasir Ahmad Tantray alias Asim of Redwani, Wakeel Ahmad Thokar of Harigam Kulgam, Farooq Ahmad Bhat of Chak Dasand and Younus Lone of Hawoora-Mishpora killed in Nagbal Frisal Kulgam, Mushtaq Ahmed Seer killed at Bandipora, Muhammad Shafi Sherguri and Jahangir Ahmed Ganaie killed at Padgampora, Ayoub Lelhari killed in Pulwama, Sabzar Ahmed killed at Saimou Tral and others. (CNS)
Most of them are not injected with hatred.. They involve in stone pelting because they get easy money. Its like the political parties here giving money to people for attending their party rallies and functions. Once the cash flow is stopped (which will be hard btw) these incidents will reduce!!
A fair amount of the people participating are actually against their will and in the fear of being singled out in the community.
It is true that there is money involved, but let us not forget their age... They are being brain washed at this age and chances are high that they will continue their fight thru out their life..... And we are talking about another 40 50 years of unrest........ Not good...
A big mistake is being made. She is being a populist without considering the nation's interests. Wonder why BJP is supporting her?
Strange! The DGP has recommended the release of these people who are complicit in acts undertaken with an aim to undermine the territorial integrity of the nation. Should not the citizenship of the concerned be revoked under provisions of the Citizenship Act of 1955?
I have a difference of opinion here, sir.
Article 370 was the undertaking granted by the Government of India as part of the original plan of accession to Union of India. Similar undertakings were taken with respect to States like Gujarat, Maharashtra, Nagaland, Sikkim, Andhra Pradesh (then the State of Hyderabad) under Article 371
What is Article 371 of the Indian Constitution?
So why only in the case of the State of Jammu & Kashmir is it a problem? Is it not a problem, in your opinion, for other states too, where equitable measures are in place with regards to restrictions on non-residents in states?
Sir. If you look at our politics, it is full of instances of the politicians deceiving us. If you look at the neighbouring nation, the politicians are outdone by their Armed Forces.
Sir. Then why do you think that the successive Indian Governments have not repealed it? What is the reason?
Isn't India a democracy? If India is a democracy, then why is there a blame on the political class itself? I see daily the number of people shouting themselves hoarse on Times Now and other channels and proclaiming that Article 370 is a stumbling block but I see hardly any action on ground. If you look at the BJP spokespersons, they too keep harping on this point but as a party in power, fail miserably to implement the same promises that they made when they were going for elections in 2014.
What do you think is the reason for that?
I can give you a solution - table the motion to repeal Article 370 in the Lower House and let the Parliament vote. If the move gets defeated, that shall emphatically display to the country the true strength of democracy and clearly lay out the pattern of voting to see which party voted which way.
Sir, that contention of Kashmir problem's solution lying in Pakistan and not with India is the typical Indian habit of blaming everyone else other than own self.
No one asked India to not completely retake Jammu & kashmir and head for ceasefire. No one asked India to not completely annex Jammu & Kashmir or agree to an insinuated defacto conversion of Ceasefire Line into Line of Control to be made into the International Boundary.
So why would you be blaming Pakistan here? They have successfully, at two instances, undertaken steps to protect their interests - first by violating the standstill agreement and capturing the Kashmir Valley almost and then in post-war negotiations at Shimla in 1972.
People change after a certain period of time.. Agreed that some of them will get into radicalization but when they were forced to feed their families and have to earn daily bread, most of them will lead a normal life!!
Sir.
Change of demography is a continuous and dynamic process. As you talk of change in demography, the same is also being witnessed in Kerala and many other states. Recently there was a petition filed to declare the Hindus minority in nine states of India.
The logic is hardly a solution.
As for the education, sir, we need the education of each and every citizen. The education must not be related only to the definition of literacy in India. This is a social effort which needs the society to evolve.
Sir. You are mixing the two different aspects of Jammu & Kashmir issue (as per Indian perspective) here.
That of territory and that of legislation. Both are separate issues, to claim that one is dependent on another is a stretch of imagination.
Well the new doctrine has put pressure on the infiltration, not only that number of terrorists killed is also on a high....... But these youths are fertile land for recruitment......
Sir. What stops the Government of India from rescinding the citizenship of these people and declaring them foreign agents and taking action against them? I can list out the number of ways they can be 'educated' just using the legal means available to the State of India, yet somehow, we still see the same issue being lamented about?