It is quite true Russia and in general Eastern Europe is very strong in mathematics and programming. And they may have contributed a lot to Huawei and it's development of 2G 3G 4G and 5G technology, but to say it was only them is over simplistic in my opinion. In your own article, 2G and 3G is mentioned but 4G and 5G is not. What is to say Chinese mathematicians and programmers did not learn and absorb the knowledge when working with such people (and working on their own) to create 4G and eventually 5G technology? China also seems to be doing very good in mathematics and computer science competitions such as IOI and IMO and has a large educated population.As for the state of Chinese military electronic technology (including radar)? That notion is a disaster born of stereotypes and marketing hype; the reality you describe simply doesn't exist. It is merely a case of Western media—intent on attacking China and casting it as an adversary—forcibly elevating China to a level it hasn't actually reached. Since China lags behind the US and Russia in terms of hardware, this intangible, invisible "electronic technology" was seized upon and touted as a "unique" Chinese advantage. It is utterly baffling. The only scenario where such a claim might be somewhat plausible is if one conflates Taiwan and TSMC with "China," thereby arguing that Chinese radar and electronic capabilities *could* surpass Russia's.
But based on the capabilities of the Chinese mainland alone? Hardly.
In Chinese, this phenomenon is referred to as 'flattering someone to their downfall“捧杀”.
----------To kill someone by holding them up too high.
The fact is that, even today, China relies on direct Russian imports for critical systems—such as the K3 radar used in manned spaceflight and core target-acquisition radars for satellites and missiles.
The KJ-2000 airborne early warning aircraft, for instance, utilizes a design concept from the Beriev Design Bureau.
Russia has also consistently assisted China in establishing its missile defense systems.
The founder of Huawei—China's largest electronics, telecommunications, and software company—has personally attested that China's acquisition of 4G and 5G technologies stemmed almost entirely from young Russian mathematicians recruited by the firm. These individuals appeared to do nothing but play video games—shunning romance and leisure—while drawing annual salaries of $2 million, only to suddenly achieve a breakthrough in Western algorithms one day. (Just look at modern mathematics and programming competitions: whenever Russians participate, there is hardly any room left for other nations to shine.)
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“We (Huawei) have a Russian scientist—a young man and a brilliant mathematician.
Just this morning, I asked my team if they could find him a girlfriend; the young man doesn't know how to date—he only knows math. He’s been with the company for over a decade, spending his days playing computer games, and we had no idea what he was actually doing. Our CTO—who manages a team of 50,000 people—even went to Moscow (to our R&D center) to see him in person, but the guy just said hello and walked away. When I personally presented him with an award, all he would say was "Mm," "Mm," "Mm."
He gave me three "Mms," and that was it; we had no clue what he’d been quietly working on all those years. Then, suddenly, he told me, "I’ve achieved a breakthrough in the algorithm for the transition from 2G to 3G." We immediately ran tests in Shanghai, and the results confirmed it—with that single achievement, we surged ahead of the rest of the world.”---------------Translation of the Original Text
Most people’s stereotypical understanding of "electronics" is shaped by consumer goods like color TVs and microwave ovens. Yet, aside from the fact that they run on electricity, radar systems and military equipment share virtually nothing in common with such household appliances.
Personally, I started out as a fan of American weaponry, then became a proponent of Chinese weaponry driven by a sense of nationalism, and finally became a supporter of Russian weaponry.
This progression was an inevitability dictated by the objective accumulation of knowledge.
---------That is also why you can see me critiquing American and Chinese weaponry with such proficiency----------because I was once a fan of them myself and know their ins and outs like the back of my hand. I dare say that, compared to the average fan of American weaponry, my level of knowledge makes me far more qualified than 95% of them
There are gaps and chasms inherent in the very concept of "civilization." The industrial modernization that took place after 1949 merely scratched the surface; one never heard of any Chinese mathematicians or inventors emerging from that era. As for your final point—"why the results were so meager"—
-----------I don't quite understand it either; at the very least, the feat of consistently filtering through various options to select the absolute worst one for implementation-----------is something that, in my view, requires a considerable amount of talent.
It’s like a multiple-choice test with 100 questions, each having four options (A, B, C, D).
Even someone who knows absolutely nothing should still be able to guess correctly 25% of the time.
Yet, in China, the rate can drop as low as 10%—which is a truly astonishing talent.
If Russia was so strong in signals and systems why did a company there not develop their own mass deployed 2G - 5G systems?
Speaking about military electronics Russia just recently reached (iirc few years ago) AESA radar technology for its fighter jets while China has been employing them for quite some time iirc. Chinese research and production of GaaS and GaN TRM and chips is tbh multiple levels ahead of Russia as per all of the available evidence. For eg PL15 deployed an AESA seeker as far back as 2015, I know not of any such Russian missile which achieved the same at that time. And more importantly China is undeniably ahead in the design and production of the chips required to process the data of such radars, there is no Russian foundry which can match SMIC and China has shown it can design much more complicated chips (GPUs are far more harder to design and make compared to such chips used for DSP in radars and China has shown it can design world class GPUs).
Can you show ke evidence that KJ500 and KJ10000 are also based on Russian technology? Maybe KJ2000 which iirc is an older Chinese AESA radar. Do you have information about the capability of the J10C, J16B and J20 AESA radar? What makes you think they are not world class and are behind their Russian counterparts? Especially the J20 GaN on SiC AESA radar which seems to be ahead than anything Russia has.
You have a very simplistic way of thinking. If you think online Chinese fan boys of Russia affect Indian gov policy and what the people at South Block decide then all I can say is get help soon.
.... Delusions are strong here but that's normal for Chinese & Pakistani fanboys.
