ADA AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

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Also expect significant amount of poaching from HAL/ADA, MANREGA scientists(according to import bahadurs) are going to make millions in Private Sector(good for them)
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While some of that will come from ADA and the defence ministry itself, much will depend on the people who are hired.

G Mohan Kumar, former defence secretary, says the key challenge for any private player who gets the contract is to mobilise resources and manpower: "It is a question of putting together an entire ecosystem of people who can build the parts for it. We have some ecosystem already there for the Tejas."

That means, if all goes to plan, the AMCA contract will end up signalling a hiring spree from the manufacturer who wins it. Singh says, "Whoever wins will poach liberally from the existing ecosystem. Why would they not? The reality is that institutional memory can be bought."

It isn't really an option. Kumar says, "The private sector can bring in innovations because they can bring in the best people."

Expect a major spike in demand for both retired HAL and ADA hands as well as those who work up and down the aerospace ecosystem, even globally. As Singh points out, "They are not bound by government pay scales and recruiting rules. If you can write a cheque large enough, you can get anyone to stroll over."

Singh also warns the private sector against unrealistically low bidding. "You often see overambitious bidding. There is nothing that can prevent a super low bid. But when that happens, the programme has every chance of going off the rails. We have seen it in other sectors. Putting in a realistic bid is critical"

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There is almost an obsessive level of desire from some analysts to lock IAF into RU/EU based OEMs for their future sqdrns. It makes no sense yet the cheers are louder than ever. In some cases they are willing to outright dismiss any progress that domestic contractors might be making. Saddening to be honest. Yes, the state of the IC is not ideal/best in India. However, things are improving in some areas as the years go by (if you've been tracking growth for a while now).
 
Calling AMCA a deception ignores reality & in-house work going on Uttam AESA Radar , Mission computers, EW suites , stealth coating, secure datalinks via gradual testing going on for MK2.

All 5th gen fighters evolve via block upgrades....and here is he wants everything perfect on day one 🤷‍♂️.

Some things are meant to work in stealth mode not on social media.
"Buddha wants all the classified info served right at his doorstep " 🎃🎃
 
This Import Dalla also said that India cannot develop a missile defense system similar to the S-400 for another 15 years, and here we have the Defence Secretary confirming test firings have already taken place LoL

It was because of the seeker technology which is still imported or licensed manufactured in India, but the new GaN chip may change this, and hence tests are going on to optimize it.
 
It was because of the seeker technology which is still imported or licensed manufactured in India, but the new GaN chip may change this, and hence tests are going on to optimize it.
Astra already had a mechanically steered seeker back in 2017 developed by drdo to replace agat .
 

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Now that GoI has decided to shift away from PSUs, I hope it doesn't take half measures -- success should at least be one of the possible outcomes. If you can pay $40B to the French, pay the same to the Indian industry. If can make concessions to the French, allow the same to Indian industry. And I hope the IAF in particular takes its parental role more seriously instead of treating Indian industry as an unwanted b@stard.
 
Astra already had a mechanically steered seeker back in 2017 developed by drdo to replace agat .

It remained in test phase until 2024 due to atmospheric attenuation issue, jamming and datalink problems. Since Ku band eventhough better in precision and resolution is more affected by atmospheric disturbance than X band( used in Russian R77), but X band was susceptible to jamming.

Balakot in 2019 somehow opened their eyes to accelerate the need for home made seeker with better precision.

Question is if it can challenge the PL15 as it has ability to shift bands.
 
It remained in test phase until 2024 due to atmospheric attenuation issue, jamming and datalink problems. Since Ku band eventhough better in precision and resolution is more affected by atmospheric disturbance than X band( used in Russian R77), but X band was susceptible to jamming.

Balakot in 2019 somehow opened their eyes to accelerate the need for home made seeker with better precision.

Question is if it can challenge the PL15 as it has ability to shift bands.
I'm repeating once against- just because it's slotted planar array doesn't mean it's mech scanned. It's ESA with a mechanically steerable antenna.
 
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It remained in test phase until 2024 due to atmospheric attenuation issue, jamming and datalink problems. Since Ku band eventhough better in precision and resolution is more affected by atmospheric disturbance than X band( used in Russian R77), but X band was susceptible to jamming.

Balakot in 2019 somehow opened their eyes to accelerate the need for home made seeker with better precision.

Question is if it can challenge the PL15 as it has ability to shift bands.
Nope . You're wrong here . Orders for Astra placed on 31 may 2k22, have been delivered with indigeneous seeker . Infact the first batch had already been delivered in the 2nd week of the year 2024 itself , let alone being in trial until 2024 .
 
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Nope . You're wrong here . Orders for Astra placed on 31 may 2k22, have been delivered with indigeneous seeker . Infact the first batch had already been delivered in the 2nd week of the year 2024 itself , let alone being in trial until 2024 .

Ordering a batch doesn't mean that trials have stopped. It was limited production order. After catching that PL15 the new inputs are reforming the AAM design.

I'm repeating once against- just because it's slotted planar array doesn't mean it's mech scanned. It's ESA with a mechanically steerable antenna.

Yes but it has a single band, and logic depends on a special QMF technology. Now rest depends on real time testing.
 
Ordering a batch doesn't mean that trials have stopped. It was limited production order. After catching that PL15 the new inputs are reforming the AAM design.
Trials are definitely not for the existing monopulse seeker . Newer propellant, lofted trajectory (or dynamic algorithms for max range and high PoK ) , newer phase steered aesa seeker with improved eccm capabilities, irde developed endgame LPF and also ejector launchers for mk2 and above were the params of interest. Also that PL15 reforming bla bla is nothing but just pure BS .
 
Trials are definitely not for the existing monopulse seeker . Newer propellant, lofted trajectory (or dynamic algorithms for max range and high PoK ) , newer phase steered aesa seeker with improved eccm capabilities, irde developed endgame LPF and also ejector launchers for mk2 and above were the params of interest. Also that PL15 reforming bla bla is nothing but just pure BS .

It is for quadrature monopulse frequency seeker only, it was recently tested in 2025 11th july along with made in India algorithm and targeting logic, earlier versions are nothing but copy of Russian seekers replacing X with Ku band filter.
 
Which is better option for long range engagement w.r.t. PK, CAPEX+OPEX?
- AMCA launching Astr-3 SFDR.
- S-400 type of system launching long range SAM.

One thing is sure today that SAM radars being static, have to be protected as well by ShoRADS & CIWS.
 

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This is the indigenous seeker with both Indigenous hardware and QMF targeting logic. What you posted is the correct one but it was not tested before 2024 and was not there in 2017. What you are talking about has got Russian targeting logic and was not completely Indian, you are misrepresenting two different seeker as one.

And after cracking the GaN architecture, the processor will be completely Indian instead of Russian based.



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This is the indigenous seeker with both Indigenous hardware and QMF targeting logic. What you posted is the correct one but it was not tested before 2024 and was not there in 2017. What you are talking about has got Russian targeting logic and was not completely Indian, you are misrepresenting two different seeker as one.

And after cracking the GaN architecture, the processor will be completely Indian instead of Russian based.



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Not completely indian ? And it's just russian seeker with some sort of modifications to operate at Ku bands instead of X 🥀🥀 Holy trinity . Where did you learn this utter Non sense ?
I had an EM minor back in the college days and let me tell you how does it sound to me .
It's just like "we can make a airplane out of a helicopter with some modifications since both of them can fly" .

Also qmf you're emphasizing is not a technology but a digital signal processing technique employeed in radar algorithms to discriminate between discrete targets aka rayleigh targets .
Btw I've posted the spec sheet of your favorite seeker .
 

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