But why India ? We are not yet in the big boys league ..its China which is real challenger to US when it comes to both Economy/Technology and to some extent military wise too ...Forget about US , we will take another good 10 to 15 years to match the China of today and that too if Congress/SoreASS gandhi doesn't come back to power ...why would they take the focus away from the current real threat to a imaginary threat 15 years ahead ?
Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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No wonder our army chief said the next war will happen soon ...if army chief make this prediction we can be sure of army making the preparation for pork ies moves....Also , if pork istan comes and occupy our land what makes them think that we wont do anything to their ports this time considering we have already demonstrated what we do to their air bases . So why would we agree for a ceasefire when we have many options to force Pakistan to backtrack
If Pak occupies our land there will be no ceasefire but full blown out war. There wasn't a ceasefire in 1999 there wont be now.
Because it's convenient. And a war of attrition won't be good for China either. USA is a bully. A bully seems strong only in front of weak. Against strong, it has a tendency to take their tone a notch down.
But I doubt India and China will ever let USA use them like this. Even in the two front war scenario, it's far more harder in nuclear troika battle than an easier attack on taiwan. Their strategic goals are met thru taiwan annexation, not India. They already got strategically important part in 1962 to build their corridor. What's in it for them to corner india, giving leverage to USA and maybe even derail their plans. Hence, we see BRICS getting frenemy conference with a new flair this time.
But let's assume that China goes bonkers, USA only pays lip service and we are actively in 2.5 situation... Both diplomatically and strategic.. in order :
1. Need to have Indian diaspora do what they do for palestine. Protest, lobby etc.
2. Closure of access to Big tech. War time buildup of sovereign stack. Govt have versions of its own that it can give to civil domain.
3. As first order of work, Neutralise bangladesh, it's ports , land system and insurgents quickly.
4. Destroy satellites. Create no satellite zone.
5. Mine malaca strait
6. Cold start from land on western flank. Pinaka+ATAGS bombardment.
7. A couple of subs in SCS, ready on command.
8. All for SBNs deployed.
9. Iran like surface to surface missile attacks on China and defensive gureliia warfare on ground in Himalayas.
10. AF: maintaining IACCS and brahmos extended rain on Pakistan.
11. AC will probably be under surveillance and blocked. Let them be in international waters for the opputune time.
12. *Risky* Get nukes to Iran.
13. What else?
That's precisely the reason why US wants India to have a conflict with Pakistan and not directly China. US believes that the control of the escalation ladder is in their (US) hands and they get to dictate when to "make it stop". They want to prove to Indian leadership that aligning with US is the "only viable option" for India to survive and force India to ditch Russia. Getting India weak is against US interest as India is their best bet against China - so, it will be a measured attack on India where Pakistan is able to deliver a "significant yet non-fatal" blow to India, enough to rile up our domestic sentiments and then "force" a ceasefire - which will then be deemed as a "loss" for India by their (puppet) international media. A very calibrated game is being played by US, and, Pak believes that this is their best bet to "score a win" against India which they can use to keep their domestic audience happy for a very, very long time to come.
The only downside for Pakistan will be losing Chinese support in the process, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
So - what does this tell us?
Yea I don't see India stopping if Pakistan attacks first. Never happening unless perhaps Pappu is in charge and even then I think even he would order retaliation. Would be political suicide for any party in power. If Pakistan attacks first, India will crush if. Doesn't matter what orange man wants. The love for power that our political parties have is far more than any non existent obligation India has to the west. Modi and the BJP will not end up like Nehru after 62.
That the US can force a ceasefire on India is laughable. Indeed Sindoor ended earlier than it should have but that was also because of our reluctance to impact our economy by prolonging it. They couldn't force a ceasefire in 1971 when India was dirt poor and weak. Neither could they force one in 1999. What makes so many of you guys think they can do it now? The idea that India would accept punches to the face by a failed state and not retaliate is laughable. It's NEVER happening.
Sir for territorial occupation they need armored thrust, but their anti drone and anti FPV capability as even admitted by the resident cheeni of this forum is very poor. Their tanks and armored vehicles don't even have cope cages. As you know, armored formations are very vulnerable to drones, of which India is producing a lot. I am very confident that any armour driven push by the Pakistan Army will result in a crushing defeat for them.
That's exactly what US is banking on. It is on us to call the US bluff and drag Pakistan through the mud till they publicly scream to stop!
If they attacked first then we wont drag them we will bury them in the mud.
*Fingers crossed*
Given how things are going on, it looks like we will find out soon enough!It will be US' biggest nightmare. To think they can stop India. Heck, a war will make the political party even stronger. Remember the elections after 1971 war. And it's modi we are talking about now.
Forget drones. Forget FA. Just the number of pinaka + ATAGS will rain hell on Pakistanis. It's monsoon season, so I suppose the dam must be getting filled now. During any attack, open the dam fully, and you will cut access for their ground forces stationed in the back.
If US really does it, their gambit will fail. It worked against pappu. But neither modi will want to stop after blatant provocation from US. Neither does he have political space left to have ceasefire now
Did I miss something?
India can easily do the same but we are reactionary. Hell outsource this shit to private and 10s of companies will form overnight to do this task
New Call centers!!India can easily do the same but we are reactionary. Hell outsource this shit to private and 10s of companies will form overnight to do this task
I still think we should develop a method to intercept artillery shells, whether through a smaller missile system or a C-RAM-type system, for our Air Force/Army base located near the border regions, as well as for the nearby villages and cities. In addition to the additional bunkers for civilians, these will be handy during the next wartime.
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