Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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Gunfight underway in J&K's Kishtwar as Army establishes contact with terrorists

Contact was established with terrorists earlier in the day when Army troops while carrying out an intelligence-based operation in Kishtwar.| India News
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The ongoing operation in the valley comes a day after two soldiers were killed in overnight firing in the Kulgam district. The security personnel, identified as as Lance/Naik Pritpal Singh and Sepoy Harminder Singh, lost their lives as ‘Operation Akhal’ entered day nine.
 
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Gosu said:
Has IAF mentioned if or when they're going to release evidence? Sat image, crash site pics, radar signatures, etc?

Without attaching appropriate evidence no one outside India will believe it. Pakistan didn't either, but there's atleast 3 crash site pics floating around on the internet which gives their claims credibility.

India so far has none, which is hard to believe in this day and age of smartphones and social media.
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Given the official acknowledgement just happened, I am pretty sure in the coming few days, IAF will reveal all the evidence associated with it
 
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ThePrint Exclusive: Asim Munir’s India nuke threat from US ballroom—‘will take half the world down’

Speaking at black-tie dinner in Tampa, Pakistan army chief Asim Munir, ThePrint has learnt, also said, ‘we will wait for India to build a dam, and when it does so, we will destroy it with ten missiles’.
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This guy is extremely dangerous!
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He has been....

1) He pulled off Pulwama
2) He pulled off Pehalgam just to restore the power of his army
3) He is another Zia in making....
 
The recent suicide statement by munir is deliberate .... To bury yesterday's statement by ACM.....
 
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ThePrint Exclusive: Asim Munir’s India nuke threat from US ballroom—‘will take half the world down’

Speaking at black-tie dinner in Tampa, Pakistan army chief Asim Munir, ThePrint has learnt, also said, ‘we will wait for India to build a dam, and when it does so, we will destroy it with ten missiles’.
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This guy is extremely dangerous!
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When an ordinary mortal has convinced himself that he is doing God's work as per God's divine will, then nothing will shake his faith. Munir's capability to concentrate power within himself and the Pakistani Armed Forces (which he and several other Pakistanis consider to be Prophet Muhammad's blessed soldiers) will be a significant challenge for India for the foreseeable future.
 
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A few journos live tweeted about PAF losses. There was also a very credible source who directly answered me “the only way to get 100% confirmation is if either PAF admits, or we have someone on site to physically confirm but all indicators strongly suggest we took down a 16”.

If you remember a few journos also gloated it’s our turn to give tea. Then suddenly there was silence. Tweets deleted. It’s more and more evident that US was bringing down pressure on India. India went about doing it’s thing but chose to keep silent to not raise public hysteria on either side.

My guess is Trump got pissed when PAF decided it had enough and India made a few fun moves. Americans think differently and them hearing India targeted Pak strategic infra was the red line.

Trump came down hard and asked India to stop. The post action claims mismatch again did not sit well with him. Hence the punitive economic moves.

Munir is on his second trip there. He wants US help to rebuild Pak AD, improve PAF capabilities. But as he will find out Trump doesn’t give free lunches.

The burning question for Pak and China is actual Indian losses. They are still guessing and don’t have any meaningful proofs which is sad for a wannabe superpower that it’s BDA skills are so lacking.

This doesn’t absolve India of its mistakes. Pak will learn from its blunders and improve. Question is will we?
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Why is India targeting Pak strategic infra was Americans red line ? ....Do you think Americans give a damn about Pakistani losses when Pakistanis themselves are busy celebrating their losses with Pakistan PM visiting airbase , Mullah Munir getting promoted to Failed Marshal ....Americans care only about their interest and their assets , looks like they lost some important assets and hence the anger and frustrations from trump
 
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Why is India targeting Pak strategic infra was Americans red line ? ....Do you think Americans give a damn about Pakistani losses when Pakistanis themselves are busy celebrating their losses with Pakistan PM visiting airbase , Mullah Munir getting promoted to Failed Marshal ....Americans care only about their interest and their assets , looks like they lost some important assets and hence the anger and frustrations from trump
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Read the post again and this time read it to comprehend instead of just to rage and respond.

Try understanding the perspective of a neutral party whether you like it or not. For all the Indian media bluster the US has still hyphenated the India Pak relationship. They see themselves as a global enforcer of order and want to maintain peace between India and Pak to prevent fallouts that are detrimental to their larger interests.

It is the job of the diplomatic corps and MEA to convey India's perspective and their performance has been sub par this time.

Pak's strategic capability is a key component that maintains the stability. India taking it out is a red line and US firmly believes it could cause the escalation to spiral out of control. That is what this is about. Your liking or agreeing with it bears no impact.
 
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Read the post again and this time read it to comprehend instead of just to rage and respond.

Try understanding the perspective of a neutral party whether you like it or not. For all the Indian media bluster the US has still hyphenated the India Pak relationship. They see themselves as a global enforcer of order and want to maintain peace between India and Pak to prevent fallouts that are detrimental to their larger interests.

It is the job of the diplomatic corps and MEA to convey India's perspective and their performance has been sub par this time.

Pak's strategic capability is a key component that maintains the stability. India taking it out is a red line and US firmly believes it could cause the escalation to spiral out of control. That is what this is about. Your liking or agreeing with it bears no impact.
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Present our case? You seem to be of notion that US military+ CIA+ Political parties don't know the reality. They know everything.

They know our perspective very clearly. But that doesn't mean their perspective matches ours. And it doesn't mean that we let pak cross our red lines cause US has some hidden red lines inside pak. That's the approach UPA took and we all were witness to their failure and it's effect on India.
If US wants stability, it's on US to control its lackey. Wether they do it by upping military capability of Pakistan, giving them shelter on terrorism issue or regulate them more strictly... Our response should be to be ready for worst.

As for MEA.. Pakistan had long ties with USA leading to its people integrating with US deep state. They are activating them as they did previously too. Everytime.

Hope for the best but be ready for the worst. Hence make in India, self reliant india, technology self reliance etc.. focus of the govt.

As for further diplomacy.. let's see how it unfolds. But it's not just about govt but whole society. Jaichand are there.. we must resist while climbing up and ahead. Do our best acc to our respective strengths and expertise.
 
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Jaymax said:
Read the post again and this time read it to comprehend instead of just to rage and respond.

Try understanding the perspective of a neutral party whether you like it or not. For all the Indian media bluster the US has still hyphenated the India Pak relationship. They see themselves as a global enforcer of order and want to maintain peace between India and Pak to prevent fallouts that are detrimental to their larger interests.

It is the job of the diplomatic corps and MEA to convey India's perspective and their performance has been sub par this time.

Pak's strategic capability is a key component that maintains the stability. India taking it out is a red line and US firmly believes it could cause the escalation to spiral out of control. That is what this is about. Your liking or agreeing with it bears no impact.
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Dont think so , Trump is just following Biden's policy. Its just we are being naive and keep spinning up excuses to console ourselves that nothing has changed. Its just not againt India politically but also against Indians there is a co-ordinated campaign at work, you can dismiss this as rumors'. Its just we are not caught up with the changed scenario, still think our defence deals will sway america.
 
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Subgradewalker said:
Present our case? You seem to be of notion that US military+ CIA+ Political parties don't know the reality. They know everything.

They know our perspective very clearly. But that doesn't mean their perspective matches ours. And it doesn't mean that we let pak cross our red lines cause US has some hidden red lines inside pak. That's the approach UPA took and we all were witness to their failure and it's effect on India.
If US wants stability, it's on US to control its lackey. Wether they do it by upping military capability of Pakistan, giving them shelter on terrorism issue or regulate them more strictly... Our response should be to be ready for worst.

As for MEA.. Pakistan had long ties with USA leading to its people integrating with US deep state. They are activating them as they did previously too. Everytime.

Hope for the best but be ready for the worst. Hence make in India, self reliant india, technology self reliance etc.. focus of the govt.

As for further diplomacy.. let's see how it unfolds. But it's not just about govt but whole society. Jaichand are there.. we must resist while climbing up and ahead. Do our best acc to our respective strengths and expertise.
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US wants India to militarily fight china and become like ukraine, economically they want to exploit us. Wrt to pakistan & other matters nothing has changed. We should have realized this when they pulled of a coup in bangladesh. Given the war in ukraine is ending , they will move onto the next weak target. More or less it will be India. They can ally with china and offer them a weakened russia if they cooperate against India. Unless Iran conducts a nuclear test & comes back into focus , India is in a tough spot.
 
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