Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict 2020

Armenia's defence ministry says warplane shot down by Turkish F-16 fighter jet
September 29, 2020 10:28 AM | By Reuters Staff​

YEREVAN (Reuters) - A Turkish F-16 fighter jet shot down an Armenian SU-25 warplane over Armenian territory on Tuesday, killing the pilot, an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman said.

Shushan Stepanyan, an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman, wrote on her Facebook page that the plane had been on a military assignment when it was shot down.

Reporting by Nvard Hovhannisyan; Writing by Gabrielle Tétrault-Farber; Editing by Gareth Jones

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Armenia's defence ministry says warplane shot down by Turkish F-16 fighter jet
September 29, 2020 10:28 AM | By Reuters Staff​

YEREVAN (Reuters) - A Turkish F-16 fighter jet shot down an Armenian SU-25 warplane over Armenian territory on Tuesday, killing the pilot, an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman said.

Shushan Stepanyan, an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman, wrote on her Facebook page that the plane had been on a military assignment when it was shot down.

Reporting by Nvard Hovhannisyan; Writing by Gabrielle Tétrault-Farber; Editing by Gareth Jones

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Turkey denies claim that it shot down an Armenian warplane
September 29, 202010:58 AM | By Reuters Staff​

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The claim by an Armenian official that Turkey shot down an Armenian fighter jet is “absolutely untrue”, Turkey’s communications director Fahrettin Altun said on Tuesday.

“Armenia should withdraw from the territories under its occupation instead of resorting to cheap propaganda tricks,” Altun said, after an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman said a Turkish F-16 jet shot down an Armenian warplane.

Reporting by Daren Butler; Editing by Dominic Evans

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Russian AD systems have been taking a beating from Turkish and Israeli drones/munitions the last few years. Is it just export systems performing poorly, or less well trained operators? Or are the cost effectiveness of drones and cheap missiles really just that good?
The Russian systems are designed to operate with other Russian systems in an integrated networked battlefield. Stand alone Russian systems become much more vulnerable.
 
Russian AD systems have been taking a beating from Turkish and Israeli drones/munitions the last few years. Is it just export systems performing poorly, or less well trained operators? Or are the cost effectiveness of drones and cheap missiles really just that good?

All these are old generation stuff. Cannot deal with such small targets.
 
Would recommend looking up the range of "modern" guns.
Does not matter. Your cheap drones do not have kind of flight profile that will require such counter measures.
All these are old generation stuff. Cannot deal with such small targets.
Missile based "AD" systems are ineffective against a swarm of small cheap but non-performant and underpowered drones. You need guns which can quickly fill the area with enough metal rounds that it does critical damage to drones. You need a net to catch a swarm of fish... missiles are essentially spearfishing.
 
Missile based "AD" systems are ineffective against a swarm of small cheap but non-performant and underpowered drones. You need guns which can quickly fill the area with enough metal rounds that it does critical damage to drones. You need a net to catch a swarm of fish... missiles are essentially spearfishing.

What sort of drones are you talking about? Drones like the ones from DJI? Or MALEs and HALEs?
 
Azarbaijan with the active support of Turkey launched an attack on Armania. Armania declared state of emergency and mobilised all men above 18 for war
Armanian fighters destroying Azarbaijan tanks
Armania claimed to have shot down 2 Azarbaijan helicopters as well
Bitchoglu aka erDOGan at it again.
SOB is gaslighting everywhere. God have mercy on Ottmeal neighbours.
 
True, only on maps it is azerbaijan territory but on the ground ethnic armenian rebels have in control since the break up of soviet. Its the turkeys support that has egged azerbaijan to increase the intensity of the long smoldering conflict. Erdogan will now convert this into another jihad and call upon muslim world to help azerbaijan.
izza illa bil-jihad fi sabil Allah
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