US - Israel - Iran War
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The Houthis succeeded in diverting just over 50% of Suez canal traffic, but that has not affected either inflation or supply chains in the West, or Israel The biggest loser is Egypt from the loss of Suez canal revenues - a country whose support Iran would have liked.
The Houthis used hundreds of missiles and drones to sink 2 ships ( one was sunk by a boat with explosives, the other had poor damage control after being lightly damaged). A billion Dollars worth of missiles were used for that and gave Israel and the US a lot of info on how to engage and destroy
them. Hezbollah was considered a lot more formidable than Hamas, but did a lot less damage to Israel that what was anticipated. The cost of people being displaced is less relevant when Israel gets unlimited funding from the US.
Pak spends a lot less to sustain the Kashmir insurgency, than Iran has. Iran has hurt its defence and development to finance its proxies. India's strategy is therefore to increase the cost and get Pak to realise their investment is not worth it - I argue in my blog that the exchange ratio in Kashmir had moved against terrorists since the abrogation of article 370.
It seems the Israelis' are flying sequential sorties w/o a break. No news of new strikes on any nuclear facility. TELs and military installations being hit in the new rounds of strikes.
If you look closely both of these forces are more focused on offensive weapons, which are good for striking the enemy, but those offensive weapons also needs protection,
Iran with it's fighters and pakistan with it's limited jets,
You need to strike a balance,
The more isareli strike on iran Will bleed the Iranian out of resources, as iran doesn't manufacture the fuels own it's own, the fules are coming from china in container ships,
Dude there's PAD & AAD active out There,
It's such a dumb tweet, MARV Will have longer range & speed as compared to the HGV for similar Mass vechile, as MARV deploys at the re entry phase, where it faces less atmospheric drag compared to HGV which travel most of the journey gliding within the atmosphere, where it's faces the drag and the heat resistant, and is maneuvering most of it's flight which bleeds the range & speed
Saturation attack you'll always have breaches. The interceptors are having 85-90% success rate but as you can see the ones that get through make a big show. USN latest SM-6 is made for hypersonic missiles and glide vehicles but those Iranian hypersonic missiles are actually not hitting at hypersonic speed but high mach.
All the missiles Iran has launch have done nothing to slow IDF's fighting capability they are hitting civilians and gov buildings whereas Israeli strikes have caused severe degradation of Irans military. Ballistic missiles are good terror weapons but they aren't cutting it. Nothing beats a piloted fighter carrying a 2000lb PGM hitting its target accurately.
Poof ? That's you sweetie.Any proof other than your cope? Didn't happen.... just like your dating life.
It has to be true. After all Eye ran media is reporting it . Just like Paxtan media reporting they shot down 3-6 Rafales.
You see sweetie what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
Does he knows that pralay has a terminal velocity of Mach-6 on impact, and it never even leaves the atmosphere, and maneuvers within the atmosphere,Ah, the old “India can’t do Mach 10 because they didn’t publicly say so” argument always a crowd favorite in technically shallow takes by chinese & Pork-e.............Let’s start with some basic physics........ A maneuverable reentry vehicle like the BM-04 MaRV "can’t reach Mach 10" because “India hasn’t claimed it” or due to “shock resistance limitations” shows a fundamental misunderstanding on your part which is no surprise of both reentry vehicle thermodynamics and solid motor SRBM kinematics. A ballistic missile with a depressed trajectory and high burn-out velocity can easily deliver a MaRV into Mach 7–10 regimes during the reentry phase..... There’s ample precedent.......the Iskander-M, and even the older Pershing II demonstrated similar performance envelopes decades ago............ BM-04’s body proportions and nose shaping indicate a similar class....short-burn, high-thrust solid motor with a maneuverable post-boost vehicle.
As for “India can’t handle shock resistance”....... you mean the same India that’s fielded Agni-series RVs with blunt-body nose cones surviving reentry at Mach 12+, conducted multiple hypersonic wind tunnel tests, and flight-tested the HSTDV at Mach 6 with onboard thermal management and scramjet ignition? Right. I'm sure they just forgot how to apply those same TPS and high-enthalpy flow models to a smaller MaRV with a short terminal glide.
Now let’s talk about those fins. They’re not random sheet metal slapped on a cone ........ they’re aerodynamically contoured, canted control surfaces optimized for lift vectoring and cross-range maneuver in the terminal phase.......... This is a design logic shared with missiles, which use aerodynamic MaRVs to complicate fire control solutions and exploit the latency in interceptor guidance loops........Glide isn't a flaw it’s the feature........ The reduction in speed is a deliberate trade to gain maneuverability, reduce intercept predictability, and penetrate layered defense networks.........That’s how you defeat modern ABM systems including your mighty HQ-19, not by flying in a straight line at Mach 17 and hoping for the best..............So no BM-04 isn’t “underwhelming” because it doesn’t claim eye-watering Mach numbers.......... It’s technically sound, tactically disruptive, and, most importantly, strategically survivable , regards.
Oh dear
First, your question..... “Can this Indian missile reach Mach 5?” is unintentionally hilarious.......... A mid-range ballistic system like BM-04, likely lofted to altitudes well above 100 km with a burnout velocity exceeding 2.5–3 km/s, will naturally reenter the atmosphere at Mach 8–10+. That’s not a design miracle........ it’s called physics, and it’s been doing its job since the V-2......... You don’t need a scramjet or a press release to make a conical reentry vehicle go hypersonic. You just need altitude and gravity which, last time I checked, India still has.... Probably missing in in eternal kingdom
........Now, your claim about “rapid deceleration” after booster separation shows a tragic misunderstanding of what this system is trying to do.......Yes, it slows down but intentionally..........It’s called a controlled energy bleed to trade velocity for lift generation, maneuver envelope, and lateral displacement......... Those fixed fins on BM-04 aren’t aesthetic, they’re designed to increase L/D ratio during the terminal glide window, allowing it to veer off-course and screw with interceptors locked onto its pre-glide trajectory........This isn’t a bug......it’s the whole point.......You can’t “predict-kill” what doesn’t stay on a ballistic arc......Systems like HQ-19 rely on extrapolated kinematic tracking........Once you throw in non-linear gliding motion, those nice neat intercept boxes fall apart.......That’s why this missile doesn’t need to hold Mach 10 , it just needs to maneuver unpredictably at Mach 6–8, right when your radar thinks it’s coasting to impact & no, the absence of a press release claiming “Mach 12” doesn’t mean it can’t do it.......That’s not how physics or credible programs work.........So maybe instead of rewriting aerospace doctrine based on vibes and brochure envy..... try looking at the actual design logic.... this is a manoeuvring reentry vehicle for God sake.
Bottom line? The BM-04 doesn’t need to flex Mach 12 on a brochure or scream through the stratosphere to prove it’s hypersonic...... It just needs to hit Mach 8, pop out those fins, pull a few lateral Gs, and make your precious HQ-19 miss like it's swatting flies in the dark.
So before you try redefining hypersonics with your Sino & that pedo forum takes......maybe take a moment… light a candle… and say a small prayer for the interceptor because by the time it figures out where BM-04 actually is, it’s already too late.
The IRGC seems to have the monumental task of keeping its assets safe for now. A new wave of strikes targeting industrial bases has begun. It has begun to be a one sided affair since the morning.
Well we have visual Rafale engine and tail we also have French officials and IAF admitting they lost fighters but IAF refuses to say the type of fighters so it's not just pakee reporting it Mr. Din. You should add some sauce to that cope.
Iran hasn't used their cruise missiles yet I think as their stock ballistic missiles dwindle they'll start using them
Hmm?
Maybe they installed the "stealth drop tanks" they have been working on for years.
The F-35 can still fly with regular tanks and drop them when empty.
The American and Israeli militaries are the dominant powers in the middle east. The Iranians like our Pakistani friends bought into their own hype.
Non-stop bombardment by the IAF:
US, UK to join Israel-Iran war? Britain moves assets, jets to Middle East
Two Israeli officials claim the Trump administration has been urged by Israel to join the war against Iran.
www.wionews.com
Britain continues to move assets to Cyprus.
You are looking at it as a zero sum game, especially the financial cost.
The Red Sea losses have been quite heavy.
While Europe can absorb those losses, MENA cannot. Iran's working as part of a larger conspiracy with Russia and China to weaken Western hold in Africa. Shutting down Suez is a crucial goal for them.
Egypt is not friendly with Iran at all. As part of the GCC, they are seen as an enemy that's allied with the US and the Saudis. Suppressing Egypt is a major goal for Iran (and Russia/China). It's helping Russia make inroads into Libya from Algeria and interfere in West Africa.
Egypt and Iran: A Rapprochement Is Unlikely
Bessma Momani examines the relationship between Egypt and Iran, and argues that although both share Islamist political ideologies and presumably have a shared sympathy with the Palestinian cause, in reality, their strategic interests are very different.
www.brookings.edu
Hezbollah is in deep soup right now. The pager attack tactically degraded them and the fall of Syria has strategically degraded them due to being cutoff from supply lines. You are looking too much into the military and financial effects of Hezbollah when in reality their presence and posture create a far greater strategic and psychological impact on the Israelis. The financial cost even if subsidised is still enormous due to their presence. And population displacement matters in a small country like Israel. Even though the Israelis can defend themseslves, the presence of Hezbollah on their borders is the same as 2 men holding machetes standing outside your door 24/7 waiting for you to come out. Plus, unlike you, a large number of Israelis are militarily trained and they understand the psychological effects of Hezbollah's presence. You are quite nonchalantly dismissing what the Israelis themselves claim is their number 2 threat after Iran. One little mistake and those men will enter your house.
Pakistan's objective is to internationalize Kashmir. And maintaining this posture does not come cheap. Rebuilding all those posts and replacing dead troops during crossborder fire just to push a few terrorists into India is an expensive affair. Failures also come in the form of blowback from their own proxies. For example, the PA had to publicly attend the funeral of Azhar's relatives after Op Sindoor. Things like that come at massive diplomatic cost. Terrorist attacks have cost them allies and now they are broke and the bill's in the mailbox. Even at such immense cost to themselves, they cannot afford to give up their posture. The kill ratio is of no consequence to them since the objective is political, not just financial or military.
It's the same with the Houthis and Hezbollah. The objectives are not easily visible due to their political nature and blowing stuff up is just the cherry on top.
Funny eh? PAF has somewhat advanced fighters, Iran has somewhat advaned ADS. Both need both.
Pakistani news has been shouting from rooftops that Israel is loosing big time (in tune with the Chinese outlets). The usual fake F-35 images have been making rounds along with exaggerated claims of destruction of Israeli assets.
Indian sources are confirming Chinese Cargo jets are landing in Iran. 3 have made their way so far.
I am tracking these guys for a while. The noise in the information stream is moderate and the often the sources are coming from within the establishment. Let's see how they hold upto OSINT scrutiny.
Indian sources are confirming Chinese Cargo jets are landing in Iran. 3 have made their way so far.
I am tracking these guys for a while. The noise in the information stream is moderate and the often the sources are coming from within the establishment. Let's see how they hold upto OSINT scrutiny.
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