The Russian soldiers refusing to fight in Ukraine
Because of their experiences on the front line, some troops are seeking legal advice to avoid being redeployed.
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Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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June 3rd
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Thousands Swept Up as Kremlin Clamps Down on War Criticism
The arrests are a stark gauge of how the Kremlin has intensified repression of critics. At least 50 people now face years-long prison sentences.
Only two parties involved, Russia and "the West"? Because, obviously, Ukraine is not an involved party. Ukraine has no agency. The Ukrainian people do not count.
Sorry, but the only thing the West is guilty of is having an attractive model of society that brings freedom, equality, justice, and economic growth. I do admit that it's unfair competition to Russia's model which only brings totalitarianism, corruption, and economic stagnation. As a result, Russia's Soviet empire has crumbled and its sphere of influence have jumped ship to the West as soon as they could. Ukraine is no exception.
Since Russia cannot win back the heart of the Ukrainian people by its promise of turning them into Putin's serfs and having to live under a corrupt dictatorship forever, Russia did the only thing it could think of, which is to wage a brutal war of occupation, completely destroying Ukrainian cities under an endless rain of fire and iron as they empty the USSR's immense stockpile of shells and bombs on civilians. All for the crime of having wanted freedom and justice.
There is no common ground to be had with Putin because he has gone too far. We have attempted to bargain with Putin; it has only emboldened him to keep pushing for more. In hindsight, it has proven to be nothing more than a repeat of the Munich experience. You cannot appease a power-hungry, bloodthirsty dictator; he will only perceive your compromises as signs of weakness and your diplomacy as cowardice.
Um... Hellooooo? Ukraine had thoughts about joining NATO and just thinking about it is a threat to Russia and a declaration of war. This is what Ukraine gets for having such impure thoughts.
Belarusian troops given orders to fight against Ukraine, but did not comply – Belarusian opposition leader
DENYS KARLOVSKYI – FRIDAY, 3 JUNE 2022, 22:25
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I've been racking my brains to figure out how a country with 80billion barrels of oil, 1.7bn MMcf of gas and 12m metric tons of rare earth metals ends up with such a crap economy? Conventional thinking says it's impossible, yet somehow they've managed.
They count pretty good. It's the Russians who can't count too well.
3,160 Russian dead is their official count.
There's been more than that many fires in Russia FFS.But one man seems to have spotted the error in their math, oh no, he's just pointing:
It's slowly turning into North Korea.
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mali was supposed to elope with their martian lover who promised eternal love on mars, now they are settling down with an earthling. Moral of the story mars is fake so is martian love.
racist west is as usual are howling & crying , shedding crocodile tears. afghanistan is asia's problem but ukraine is worlds problem? yeah terrorist haqqani is not a danger to the world but putin is a danger to rest of the world. They said the same thing abt venezuela, iran...etc now they are kissing their balls. Once the dust settles down we will see the racist west doing a somersault on every thing they said.
It seems that the coordination of Russian attacks has greatly diminished in recent days and they are spreading themselves and their firepower around by going after several targets.
For example, the effort on Sievierodonetsk even at the expense of the push via Popasna is not very rational (but the Russians may have been hoping to repeat the Lyman scenario with a quick capture of the town, except that it seems that the Ukrainian counter-battery fire from the heights is quite effective).
The Russians probably thought that after the fall of Lyman the Ukrainians would let go of the left bank of the Donets, this is not yet a fact and it fixes Russian troops who are not participating in the effort on the Ukrainian salient.
The fighting to the south-east of Lysychansk is apparently terrible, but again the Russians are not taking action because of a lack of reserves.
Similarly the effort on Avdiivka would be much more important operationally but the troops (DPR) who broke through the Ukrainian front line complained of not being supported / not having reserves.
It just looks like the boss has ordered a general attack hoping for a quick outcome.
For example, the effort on Sievierodonetsk even at the expense of the push via Popasna is not very rational (but the Russians may have been hoping to repeat the Lyman scenario with a quick capture of the town, except that it seems that the Ukrainian counter-battery fire from the heights is quite effective).
The Russians probably thought that after the fall of Lyman the Ukrainians would let go of the left bank of the Donets, this is not yet a fact and it fixes Russian troops who are not participating in the effort on the Ukrainian salient.
The fighting to the south-east of Lysychansk is apparently terrible, but again the Russians are not taking action because of a lack of reserves.
Similarly the effort on Avdiivka would be much more important operationally but the troops (DPR) who broke through the Ukrainian front line complained of not being supported / not having reserves.
It just looks like the boss has ordered a general attack hoping for a quick outcome.
how long will the racist west keep peddling this tripe? saviors of humanity should take a break and go to mars for vacation. They can take their friends in china, afghanistan,saudi...etc along with them.
I do not believe that the Forum's charter prohibits a positive assessment of our civilisation.
Friends in China and Afghanistan now?
You didn't like what he said because it's a fact. It's not us sending people to prison for protesting the war, or locking people up for growing a beard. Your judgement of the West remains biased by an era which has long passed, and you now find yourself both allied to and dependent on a lunatic.
when did the hypocritic murdering hordes become a civilization? Is dropping bombs on innocent civilians a civilized behavior? I suppose you should look up the meaning of the word "civilized" "polite and well-mannered".
Fairly sure those were terrorists. That or you're confusing us with Russia.
Stop, you'll achieve integer overflow.