Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Rajput Lion said:
But haven't these jets sustained this tempo for over 2 years now?
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We don't know that. He didn't say anything about it being sustained long-term.

Russia has no clear air superiority over Ukrainian skies so the strike missions couldn't have been too often.

But we know what the Flanker (and by extension, Fullback) platform is capable of. We know that 4+ sorties per day can only be achieved during surge ops.
 
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A Person said:
Nope, he's not a prisoner and there's no way for the drone to take him prisoner.
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Being a prisoner or not doesn't matter. If an enemy combatant is wounded and nor armed, killing him becomes a war crime.

A Person said:
Not comparable to the Russian's mass executions of prisoners of war.
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That makes both sides the bad guys.

A Person said:
They're leeroyjenkinsing in unarmored trucks now. What is that new offensive going to be fought on, horses?
https://twitter.com/x/status/1778426790517608763
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The offensive units will obviously have their own hardware.

The alarm bells have started ringing.


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A Person said:
I mean, in that scenario we're discussing, Russia has already decided to escalate by attacking French troops that were doing non-combat missions far behind the front lines. If Russia wants to make a reality of its constant rhetoric of being "at war with NATO", that's on them.
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Warzone rules are different. Attacking French troops in Ukraine won't be tantamount to Russian aggression on France, but if France escalates, they become the aggressors. So if France directly participates with the French flag, then that's France declaring war on Russia.
 
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The Russia-Ukraine War is exposing significant vulnerabilities in the Army’s strategic personnel depth and ability to withstand and replace casualties. Army theater medical planners may anticipate a sustained rate of roughly 3,600 casualties per day, ranging from those killed in action to those wounded in action or suffering disease or other non-battle injuries. With a 25 percent predicted replacement rate, the personnel system will require 800 new personnel each day. For context, the United States sustainedabout 50,000 casualties in two decades of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.In large-scale combat operations, the United States could experience that same number of casualties in two weeks.

Basically saying the US Army is not capable of fighting at the same intensity as what's happening in Ukraine.
 
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randomradio said:
Warzone rules are different. Attacking French troops in Ukraine won't be tantamount to Russian aggression on France, but if France escalates, they become the aggressors. So if France directly participates with the French flag, then that's France declaring war on Russia.
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No, it will just be a special military operation.
 
randomradio said:
Warzone rules are different. Attacking French troops in Ukraine won't be tantamount to Russian aggression on France, but if France escalates, they become the aggressors. So if France directly participates with the French flag, then that's France declaring war on Russia.
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What kind of f'ed up logic does your brain operate on? French forces would be in Ukraine legally. All Russian forces in Ukraine are there illegally and aggressively. If they attack France that is aggression against NATO. The US spent 8 years avoiding the bombing of Soviet advisors in North Vietnam.
 
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randomradio said:
@Innominate

The Russia-Ukraine War is exposing significant vulnerabilities in the Army’s strategic personnel depth and ability to withstand and replace casualties. Army theater medical planners may anticipate a sustained rate of roughly 3,600 casualties per day, ranging from those killed in action to those wounded in action or suffering disease or other non-battle injuries. With a 25 percent predicted replacement rate, the personnel system will require 800 new personnel each day. For context, the United States sustainedabout 50,000 casualties in two decades of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.In large-scale combat operations, the United States could experience that same number of casualties in two weeks.

Basically saying the US Army is not capable of fighting at the same intensity as what's happening in Ukraine.
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Major war rules are very different.

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Parthu said:
We don't know that. He didn't say anything about it being sustained long-term.
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He said that Su-34 has proved to be RuAF's workhorse during this war.

This itself means he is NOT talking about surge-ops but about sustained sortie rates since this war has been going for now well over 2 years. Surge-ops is more about Shock and Awe than protracted wars, IMO.

Parthu said:
Russia has no clear air superiority over Ukrainian skies so the strike missions couldn't have been too often.

But we know what the Flanker (and by extension, Fullback) platform is capable of. We know that 4+ sorties per day can only be achieved during surge ops.
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That's why I found this story interesting and posted here:)
 
Rajput Lion said:
He said that Su-34 has proved to be RuAF's workhorse during this war.

This itself means he is NOT talking about surge-ops but about sustained sortie rates since this war has been going for now well over 2 years. Surge-ops is more about Shock and Awe than protracted wars, IMO.
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What does being a workhorse have to do with not being surge ops? Any fighter, workhorse or niche platform, can carry out surge rate of operations. Plus Russia has ~150 Su-34s, it's not going to be same planes or same squadrons that maintain surge ops all the time, they keep rotating.

Workhorse is whichever platform that's doing the most flying out of the all the platforms you have. Plus we're reading a translation here.

Ukraine as of now has no real presence in the air, so it's understandable that a strike plane like Su-34 is the workhorse.

Once Ukraine starts putting those F-16s in the sky, that could change. Su-34 sorties will reduce as the windows where it can operate freely will reduce. And Su-30SMs and Su-35s will have to be doing a lot more flying than what they are doing now.

Either way, no fighter on Earth can sustain 4-5 sorties per day for a protracted period like the duration of the whole war, which has now been over 2 years. That's a physical impossibility.
 
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randomradio said:
Warzone rules are different. Attacking French troops in Ukraine won't be tantamount to Russian aggression on France, but if France escalates, they become the aggressors. So if France directly participates with the French flag, then that's France declaring war on Russia.
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This means that people are free to bomb Russian forces in Syria, and if Russia strikes back then it is an act of war yes? Equally, by your logic, we could bomb Russian forces in Ukraine right now and if Russia strikes back, only then is it an act of war. See what happens when you type without thinking.
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Ukrainian Drone Strike on Big Konteyner Radar Site in Mordovia, Russia!​

Ukraine reports hitting the site of a over-the-horizon Container Radar array near Kovylkino in Mordovia. The Container radar features two arrays—a transmitter and a reciever. The command post was reportedly destroyed.

 
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Major war rules are very different.

Russia Uses Ural Trucks as APCs in Robotyne -- Goes Wrong. (Possible Armour Shortage?)​


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Possibly an MRAP version.

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