Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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So he's going to continue doing what he was doing anyway. Come on, it's not like the DPRK pulled all those new missiles out of their backside.
A picture of Russia would be 'everything occupied'. In fact, given that China is under a Communist dictatorship derived from USSR support, mainland China is entirely occupied too.
We're talking about no SAM being perfect(Patriot had 6/6 Kinzhal missile interceptions), well duh, but this is a very low tech airforce. They basically at most sequenced some drones, SEAD missiles, old S-200 missiles and Storm Shadows.
You could believe it's ISR, but the S-400 also failed at point/base defense. Sunk ships in part attest to that.
The logical conclusion is the S-400 and Russian stuff doesn't work really well. They're good, but it's not anything ground breaking.
I guess we can revisit this conversation after ATACMS arrives in Ukraine. But, the S-400 against Storm Shadow, has failed.
I would comfortably put the Patriot and SAMP-T over the S-400.
You could believe it's ISR, but the S-400 also failed at point/base defense. Sunk ships in part attest to that.
The logical conclusion is the S-400 and Russian stuff doesn't work really well. They're good, but it's not anything ground breaking.
I guess we can revisit this conversation after ATACMS arrives in Ukraine. But, the S-400 against Storm Shadow, has failed.
I would comfortably put the Patriot and SAMP-T over the S-400.
The Russians didn't rock the boat due to their own interests closer to home. But I guess they regret that now.
The path to the dock, the state of the radar systems, the downtime the SAM would experience due to deployment rotation, maintenance or shift rotation, use of recognized signals that they have countermeasures for. Any number of reasons could lower the effectiveness of a SAM, and transparency could tell you when a SAM is at its weakest for exploitation.
Nope. While the NoKo received help initially, they started developing such systems on their own without external assistance, they even transferred that to Pakistan and Iran. But the real threat is the supply of conventional weapons. The US isn't scared of a few atomic bombs, but they definitely don't want countries like NoKo and Iran getting advanced next gen weapons like SAMs, fighter jets and armor.
The EU's economy is >5x the size of India's and it buys only marginally more, and only thanks to Hungary mainly.
Buddy, Russia's SAMs aren't doing so great, their fighter jets even worse still, and their armour is basically scrap waiting to happen. And that's against Ukraine not NATO.
And yes, they already helped DPRK.
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Sure, all reasons. Misses the main one, which is the SAM isn't that good.
6/10 is really bad even if you're against NATO ISR. Where's the SHORAD?
Is India going to lose their S-400s to HARMs, S-200s, Storm Shadow equivalents? Basically the prime of NATO in the 90s sure.
In a war against Pakistan, will the Chinese ISR not be available for Pakistan? Regardless of ISR, which I acknowledge for when the S-400 is being hunted. I can't easily excuse base defense failures.
A good judge of a SAM's performance is how many SAMs were taken out. 'Cause with good ISR, you can avoid SAMs, even against targets located within the SAM's smallest ring.
If the Ukrainians are good against SAMs, then they would take out the SAMs first and then have a free run of the other ground targets. But they are not doing that.
Regardless of the size, the money that's going to Russia is the same. In fact, India is buying mostly in rupees and dirhams, whereas the EU is paying in euros, which gives the Russians more benefits. And no, Hungary is not absorbing as much Russian energy as India is. Most of it is going to Western Europe, even France, not just Germany.
Buddy, Russia's SAMs aren't doing so great, their fighter jets even worse still, and their armour is basically scrap waiting to happen. And that's against Ukraine not NATO.
And yes, they already helped DPRK.
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Then I guess the West should have no problems if the Russians sell their junk to NoKo and Iran.