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As US seeks 'strategic commitment' from India, top diplomat says 'sanctions for buying S-400 system possible'
The S-400 Triumf, NATO reporting name SA-21 Growler
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Updated May 21, 2020 | 14:32 IST
Alice Wells, the outgoing Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs has said that a sanction on India for buying Russian S-400 missile system is possible.

Key Highlights

  • India had signed a USD 5 billion deal with Russia to buy five units of the S-400 air defence missile systems
  • Dr S Jaishankar told US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in June last year that India will go by its national interest while dealing with other countries
  • 'I'm confident that defense trade and interoperability will continue to grow'

New Delhi: Asserting that New Delhi will have to make a strategic commitment to technologies and platforms, Alice Wells has said that the possibility of US sanctions on India for buying the multi-billion-dollar S-400 missile system from Russia remains on the table.

The S-400 Triumf, NATO reporting name SA-21 Growler

The S-400 Triumf, NATO reporting name SA-21 Growler
In October 2018, India signed a USD 5 billion deal with Russia to buy five units of the S-400 air defence missile systems, despite repeated warning from the United States that going ahead with the deal may lead to sanctions under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).
Last year, New Delhi made the first tranche of payment of around USD 800 million to Russia for the missile systems. The S-400 is known as Russia's most advanced long-range surface-to-air missile defence system.


'CAATSA has not moved off the table'
Apart from India, Turkey – the US-NATO ally – also went ahead with the purchase of the Russian missile system forcing Washington to block Ankara from receiving equipment related to the F-35 fighter jet.
The US had imposed sanctions on Russia under the stringent CAATSA and as per the law actions will also be taken on countries which buy defence hardware from Russia.
 

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India monitors Chinese troops in Ladakh, Beijing has the potential to destroy S-400

NEW DELHI, MOSCOW, (BM) – India is closely monitoring the concentration of Chinese troops in strategically important areas on the line of actual control in eastern Ladakh, learned BulgarianMilitary.com according Indian military source, cited by TASS.

Read more: If the Chinese and Indian Air Forces face each other in the sky, who will win?


“The Indian army deployed additional troops and arms in the region to prevent a further invasion of China on Indian territory in the strategically important area of Depsang Bulge,” the source quoted the publication as saying. “Three Indian infantry divisions with a strength of 10-12 thousand soldiers each, as well as tanks and artillery. Indian Air Force fighters make regular patrol flights over Ladakh. “

According to Indian data, the People’s Liberation Army of China has also deployed a military group along the line of actual control in Ladakh, consisting of motorized rifle and mechanized divisions. Chinese troops are building a new fortified camp and observation posts in the Galvan River Valley on the line of the unmarked border with India, where clashes between the two countries took place in June.

According Russian military experts the Chinese army has the ptential to destroy Indian S-400 air defense missile systems, Night Courier reports.

China has weapons that can bypass the Russian S-400 and destroy a given target. According to the expert in a large-scale conflict with India, they are ready to ruthlessly destroy the unique Russian S-400 systems that New Delhi wants to buy from Russia.


Dongfeng-41 strategic missile systems, the state of armament in China, are indeed now a danger to India. They can not only be deployed in a matter of hours at virtually any power, but also launch missiles that can develop hypersonic speed.

Read more: Russian weapons to India are a chance to achieve air superiority over China

In particular, the flight speed of a hypersonic warhead reaches 31.5 thousand kilometers per hour. Russian S-400s can intercept targets flying at a maximum of 17.2 thousand kilometers per hour, which is almost half the capacity of DongFeng.

Military analysts say that India is aware of the consequences of a possible large-scale military conflict with China, so it is unlikely that it will increase confrontation.


As we reported on June 22 India asks Russia to speed up the delivery of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system [SAM) against the backdrop of worsening relations with China.

The Government of India has begun to fill the gaps in the country’s defenses by stockpiling and completing procurement. The country is preparing for the worst-case scenario, including a war on two fronts, according to the Indian The Economic Times.

India is interested in accelerating the delivery of Russian S-400 Triumph. Defense Minister Rajnath Singh will discuss such an opportunity during a three-day visit to Russia. An urgent need arose due to tensions on the Sino-Indian border.

Moscow has postponed the delivery of air defense systems worth $ 5.4 billion until December 2021 due to the proliferation of COVID-19. India paid for the purchase of the S-400 last year.


China, which has strong strategic cooperation with Russia, has already acquired an air defense system. This fact only adds to the problems for India. According to the sources of the Indian newspaper, the Armed Forces of the country were ordered to be prepared for any surprises.

Read more: New Delhi is asking Moscow to speed up deliveries of the anti-aircraft missile systems

India seeks to explore the distribution of supplies. An accelerated schedule can be developed taking into account the historical military relations between the two countries.

Another key issue for discussion with Russia is the reliability of supplies. The agenda of the Minister of Defense of India consists of two parts. The first is to speed up the procurement of spare parts for the Sukhoi and MiG aviation formations in the country.

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India monitors Chinese troops in Ladakh, Beijing has the potential to destroy S-400

So chinese have the capabilities to destroy s400.
 

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India monitors Chinese troops in Ladakh, Beijing has the potential to destroy S-400

NEW DELHI, MOSCOW, (BM) – India is closely monitoring the concentration of Chinese troops in strategically important areas on the line of actual control in eastern Ladakh, learned BulgarianMilitary.com according Indian military source, cited by TASS.

Read more: If the Chinese and Indian Air Forces face each other in the sky, who will win?


“The Indian army deployed additional troops and arms in the region to prevent a further invasion of China on Indian territory in the strategically important area of Depsang Bulge,” the source quoted the publication as saying. “Three Indian infantry divisions with a strength of 10-12 thousand soldiers each, as well as tanks and artillery. Indian Air Force fighters make regular patrol flights over Ladakh. “

According to Indian data, the People’s Liberation Army of China has also deployed a military group along the line of actual control in Ladakh, consisting of motorized rifle and mechanized divisions. Chinese troops are building a new fortified camp and observation posts in the Galvan River Valley on the line of the unmarked border with India, where clashes between the two countries took place in June.

According Russian military experts the Chinese army has the ptential to destroy Indian S-400 air defense missile systems, Night Courier reports.

China has weapons that can bypass the Russian S-400 and destroy a given target. According to the expert in a large-scale conflict with India, they are ready to ruthlessly destroy the unique Russian S-400 systems that New Delhi wants to buy from Russia.


Dongfeng-41 strategic missile systems, the state of armament in China, are indeed now a danger to India. They can not only be deployed in a matter of hours at virtually any power, but also launch missiles that can develop hypersonic speed.

Read more: Russian weapons to India are a chance to achieve air superiority over China

In particular, the flight speed of a hypersonic warhead reaches 31.5 thousand kilometers per hour. Russian S-400s can intercept targets flying at a maximum of 17.2 thousand kilometers per hour, which is almost half the capacity of DongFeng.

Military analysts say that India is aware of the consequences of a possible large-scale military conflict with China, so it is unlikely that it will increase confrontation.


As we reported on June 22 India asks Russia to speed up the delivery of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system [SAM) against the backdrop of worsening relations with China.

The Government of India has begun to fill the gaps in the country’s defenses by stockpiling and completing procurement. The country is preparing for the worst-case scenario, including a war on two fronts, according to the Indian The Economic Times.

India is interested in accelerating the delivery of Russian S-400 Triumph. Defense Minister Rajnath Singh will discuss such an opportunity during a three-day visit to Russia. An urgent need arose due to tensions on the Sino-Indian border.

Moscow has postponed the delivery of air defense systems worth $ 5.4 billion until December 2021 due to the proliferation of COVID-19. India paid for the purchase of the S-400 last year.


China, which has strong strategic cooperation with Russia, has already acquired an air defense system. This fact only adds to the problems for India. According to the sources of the Indian newspaper, the Armed Forces of the country were ordered to be prepared for any surprises.

Read more: New Delhi is asking Moscow to speed up deliveries of the anti-aircraft missile systems

India seeks to explore the distribution of supplies. An accelerated schedule can be developed taking into account the historical military relations between the two countries.

Another key issue for discussion with Russia is the reliability of supplies. The agenda of the Minister of Defense of India consists of two parts. The first is to speed up the procurement of spare parts for the Sukhoi and MiG aviation formations in the country.

***

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India monitors Chinese troops in Ladakh, Beijing has the potential to destroy S-400

So chinese have the capabilities to destroy s400.
It's silly. The Chinese won't attack a truck with an IRBM.
 

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Its true that they have overwhelming superiority while dealing with s400.
No, they don't. All they can do is fire long range standoff weapons outside the range of the S-400 and pray something hits.

At this time, we don't either, until the Rafale comes in. We will also have to spray and pray for quite sometime.

Only now countries are developing the capability to reliably hit the S-400, but with a stealth jet. And they need weapons like the Stormbreaker and SPEAR 3. The French have the Hammer, which entered operation more than a decade before the other two weapons mentioned above. All these are powered weapons with a capable seeker, and are needed to hit the S-400 even after it has packed up and is running away. Even we are developing such weapons as follow-on to the SAAW.

But, in order to defeat the S-400, all these weapons are useless without a capable enough platform to bring it close enough to be deployed.

The Chinese also likely have such weapons, but they do not have a platform necessary to deliver the bomb. They need the J-20 for it, which is going to take time.

Of course, you also need a lot of such bombs to defeat the S-400 because the SAM can also defend itself from such bombs. Plus an S-400 SAM site is not just 1 battery, there's going to be a combination of at least 2 to 4 batteries. And you an expect a layered SAM structure around it as well, like the SPYDER, 40mm guns etc in our case. Even DEW.
 
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No, they don't. All they can do is fire long range standoff weapons outside the range of the S-400 and pray something hits.

At this time, we don't either, until the Rafale comes in. We will also have to spray and pray for quite sometime.

Only now countries are developing the capability to reliably hit the S-400, but with a stealth jet. And they need weapons like the Stormbreaker and SPEAR 3. The French have the Hammer, which entered operation more than a decade before the other two weapons mentioned above. All these are powered weapons with a capable seeker, and are needed to hit the S-400 even after it has packed up and is running away. Even we are developing such weapons as follow-on to the SAAW.

But, in order to defeat the S-400, all these weapons are useless without a capable enough platform to bring it close enough to be deployed.

The Chinese also likely have such weapons, but they do not have a platform necessary to deliver the bomb. They need the J-20 for it, which is going to take time.

Of course, you also need a lot of such bombs to defeat the S-400 because the SAM can also defend itself from such bombs. Plus an S-400 SAM site is not just 1 battery, there's going to be a combination of at least 2 to 4 batteries. And you an expect a layered SAM structure around it as well, like the SPYDER, 40mm guns etc in our case. Even DEW.
Israelis have destroyed S350 in syria. The Chinses S-400 are very close to S350 in tech level.
 
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Israelis have destroyed S350 in syria. The Chinses S-400 are very close to S350 in tech level.
There are no S-350s in Syria. It entered service only a few months ago, and they signed a contract for large scale deliveries only 2 weeks ago.

What you are talking about is the S-300 PMU-2. But the Israelis have been avoiding the SAM by flying at low altitude and completely out of the range of the SAM. I believe the closest target hit was 60Km away from the SAM, using SPICE or other similar missiles fired from probably 80-100Km away from the SAM. There is no SAM in the world that can engage a low flying target at that range.

There are also rumours that the Russians have prevented the the proper use of the SAM since the Israelis are hitting Iranian targets, and the Russians are fine with that, since even they want the Iranians to leave Syria.

The Pantsir-S1 has completely failed to pick up and defeat all the small standoff missiles that the Israelis are using, which is why the Israelis are able to dominate from low altitude.

I had posted about it here:
 
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There are no S-350s in Syria. It entered service only a few months ago, and they signed a contract for large scale deliveries only 2 weeks ago.

What you are talking about is the S-300 PMU-2. But the Israelis have been avoiding the SAM by flying at low altitude and completely out of the range of the SAM. I believe the closest target hit was 60Km away from the SAM, using SPICE or other similar missiles fired from probably 80-100Km away from the SAM. There is no SAM in the world that can engage a low flying target at that range.

There are also rumours that the Russians have prevented the the proper use of the SAM since the Israelis are hitting Iranian targets, and the Russians are fine with that, since even they want the Iranians to leave Syria.

The Pantsir-S1 has completely failed to pick up and defeat all the small standoff missiles that the Israelis are using, which is why the Israelis are able to dominate from low altitude.

I had posted about it here:
What if the PAF were to emulate the I-D-F when facing the S-400 on the Western Front?