I really didn't get what you are trying to convey here. How F35 even comes to picture here?I'm sure only 2 F35 would have caused you a reaction of full euphoria....
F35 will only 55% disponibility, able to be supersonic just few minutes, not FOC, unable to fire a moving ground target, waiting the 3F software (oh shit, not the 3F with "F" for Final, but now we have to wait 4.0 software... LOL ) to be fully combat ready....
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F35 is only a world class CAS fighter on marketing basis.
Not FOC 14 years after 1st preserial flight.
Not FOC despite a 3F standard (F for ..... Final
)A fully political IOC since 4 years.
Lacking 2 of the assets of 5th gen according to own LM definition : not super cruising and no sensor fusion ready.
Not able to destroy a moving ground target....
Stop dreaming to the last Hollywood chritsmas game of uncle Sam please.
the IR trace of F35 is huge.
How do you explain hat with 12T dry thrust it can't supercruise? Because it is shape as a sugar piece, and need heavy power, so high IR trace.
Wait just some years, probably before F35 will be FOC, to see a multistatic capacity on Rafale : Good bye Stealthy fat goose....
The French here are suggesting you bought a lemon, Paddy.First Brexit, then no deal, then there's NI to contend with thanks to the Good Friday agreement with Biden elected as President & the EU breathing down your shoulders & now this. Add to this the pathetic state of your economy & defense preparedness. Bad news comes from all directions & the French are having a ball rubbing it in.
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No, there is no joy among the French because the British are our allies.
Right now the F-35 is 5th gen only on paper. It still has a long way to go. And even the Pentagon is unhappy with its progress and cost management. It's going to be a real jet sometime after 2025 at its current rate of progress.
For India specifically, considering the jet is ready, there are a few other issues. The Americans want us to buy the jet and then put it through testing instead of the opposite. So we will have no clue what we are buying until after its in service. This is unrealistic to us due to the difficult terrain we have to operate the jet in. We can't buy something without first testing it in our conditions, especially when something as crucial as flight performance is in doubt. We need a very high performance jet, which is why AMCA's performance specs exceed the F-22's. The FGFA as well. They won't even provide the most classified briefing without first guaranteeing its purchase.
Also, the Americans want to sell it in a GTG deal instead of a tender, especially one where the Russians will be involved. And it's unlikely they are interested in setting up a production line.
So the only way for us to induct this jet on our terms is for us to wait until it becomes a contemporary jet, and also after they fix a lot of its performance problems with a new engine after 2035. But we are naturally going to give greater importance to our own projects by then. Even the AMCA with F414 will be more suitable for our needs by then.
I don't think the S-400 will be a problem. I think it's just an excuse.
The French are suggesting..... And this is important why?
The Good Friday Agreement is no problem, the NI Protocol however is dead. Two separate things. The UK is committed to the GFA, the NI Protocol was just to make this commitment convenient for the EU.
Defence spending is up 7% for next year and everyone's economy is screwed due to the pandemic.
I'm sure there's no joy just as I'm sure there's absolute no schadenfreude among the French today at Britain's present plight.
B2 cannot go super sonic, but TU160 can. Tell me which one is deadly and which one is advanced.
The same will be true across most of Europe, if not the world. The country has been in lockdown for 3 months this year (25% of the year), so 11.3% is pretty good considering.
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France is doing slightly better than the others at the moment.The same will be true across most of Europe, if not the world. The country has been in lockdown for 3 months this year (25% of the year), so 11.3% is pretty good considering.
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B2 was never studied to be supersonic.
But it was a promise of LM during the F35 design phase. They failed. And supercruise is one of the quality a 5th gen aircraft must have according to LM définition.
B2 is FOC.
F35 only won a political IOC. With a lot of issues to solve. And I think that it will takes time.
The German case would have been interesting.The same will be true across most of Europe, if not the world. The country has been in lockdown for 3 months this year (25% of the year), so 11.3% is pretty good considering.
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The question is how will UK finance a possible 11% hike in it's defense budget in the light of the above data unless Boris is pulling a fast one on you.The same will be true across most of Europe, if not the world. The country has been in lockdown for 3 months this year (25% of the year), so 11.3% is pretty good considering.
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It is a help to ensure that the defence industry does not go under. In France we do the same thing without saying it: for example, we sell second-hand Rafale aircraft that we replace with new Rafale aircraft capable of F4.2, which is not free, but it allows the industry to survive.
Keynesian economics is how. Scrimp and save in good times, spend during crisis/pandemic.
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I think it will be another tranche of 3.