I think this video will be helpful. This describes better, with much more informations that I know.
Project Kusha / Programme LRSAM / PGLRSAM
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Thanks, I had missed this.
I hope all 3 missiles can share the same launch cannisters.
The launch cannisters are looking very compact in size , so I guess there will be a comparatively larger number of missiles ( combination of M1, M2 & M3 together ) in a single launcher/ launcher vehicle / ship. Honestly, this system will be much lighter and easily movable/ easy to transport through vehicle/airlift in comparison to other existing systems like S 400, HQ 9 etc. I guarantee this system will be a huge export success too if it is allowed to be exported by Govt. Also it'll be much lower in cost per missile interception launch than S 400 etc.Thanks, I had missed this.
I hope all 3 missiles can share the same launch cannisters.
Unlikely, If Kusha Brochures are anything to go by The M3 interceptor would be nearly 9.5m long necessitating different launch vehicles and cannistersThanks, I had missed this.
I hope all 3 missiles can share the same launch cannisters.
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It would be an abomination if this interceptor were that long. Just make it shorter, fat and faster like the SM-6 or 40N6. at current specs this system capabilities is very limited at effective long range engagement.
It's not the land-based launchers that worries me. I am worried about the naval VLS.
9.5 m! 1+ m taller than the Brahmos! You sure?
Isn't the M3 missile meant to be our naval BMD interceptor. How will this work?
As far as I know Navy has quite clearly stated they don't intend to go beyond 250 km so naval VLS is a non issue.
If these BDL brochures from Aero India 2025 are anything to go by
I think that role exclusively belongs to AAD (why else would they test it from INS Anvesh.
And I think in the future the 8.6m long AD-1 may also be used as Naval BMD Interceptor, but that is purely hypothetical on my part
Make no mistake I don't like this ultra long 9.5m stick approch either and if I had my way I would much rather prefer a 350mm upper stage with a 500mm ±25mm booster.
Along with a new 450 km range Interceptor
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How effective M3 at 9.5 m will be you reckon? Will it be effective say against AWACS and tankers at long ranges?
Someone here said earlier it wont be effective as BMD as much.
The graphics of naval LRSAM show it as >250 km range so only M2 will likely have a naval role. I don't remember where I got this chart from but if it's to be believed, even the M2 is 8.4m long:
Even that is very long for a SAM, but at least it's the same length as BrahMos so can work with the same 'strike length' of VLS (though the VLS would be a different model, the length clearance will be similar).
Well, either way the design doesn't match with any of the M2, M3 boosters shown so far.
The VLS on Anvesh certainly looks like it's meant to also carry something much fatter than the AAD/AD-1 though.
An exo-atmospheric 'upper tier' interceptor is likely to accompany the AAD/AD-1.
The Anvesh VLS seems to accommodate articles of up to 10m long (2nd point under 'Important Features'):
Agreed.
That said, the NGD (at least if the recent most Navy render is to be taken at face value) appears to have 3 types of VLS. One is a relatively small system that seems to be very similar in size & layout to the current Barak-8 cells (or older Barak-1 cells). These cells will likely only be able to accommodate likes of VL-SRSAM.
The other 2 types of cells appear to be roughly of similar size. I'm not sure what to make of that. Could it be that naval Kusha would share the same VLS as AD-1/2? I think the Anvesh VLS looks physically larger than BrahMos UVLM in a way that should be obvious in a graphic like this, but I haven't actually done any photogrammetry to establish that, just eyeballing it:
Even that is very long for a SAM, but at least it's the same length as BrahMos so can work with the same 'strike length' of VLS (though the VLS would be a different model, the length clearance will be similar).
Well, either way the design doesn't match with any of the M2, M3 boosters shown so far.
The VLS on Anvesh certainly looks like it's meant to also carry something much fatter than the AAD/AD-1 though.
An exo-atmospheric 'upper tier' interceptor is likely to accompany the AAD/AD-1.
The Anvesh VLS seems to accommodate articles of up to 10m long (2nd point under 'Important Features'):
Agreed.
That said, the NGD (at least if the recent most Navy render is to be taken at face value) appears to have 3 types of VLS. One is a relatively small system that seems to be very similar in size & layout to the current Barak-8 cells (or older Barak-1 cells). These cells will likely only be able to accommodate likes of VL-SRSAM.
The other 2 types of cells appear to be roughly of similar size. I'm not sure what to make of that. Could it be that naval Kusha would share the same VLS as AD-1/2? I think the Anvesh VLS looks physically larger than BrahMos UVLM in a way that should be obvious in a graphic like this, but I haven't actually done any photogrammetry to establish that, just eyeballing it:
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It's most likely M1 but you're spot-on with your analysis of the fin & TVC arrangement. The revered DFI-PK agrees
I believe the chart is from this very forum, IIRC @Fatalis made that chart
Project Kusha / Programme LRSAM / PGLRSAM
LRSAM block house in ITR is getting fixed , hope for more activity.
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Isn't that a experimental VLS meant to be able to launch any and all type of missiles, that's why the 1m+ diameter
Most likely, but I wouldn't get my hopes high on a Naval AD-2 that thing is a monster, even at a conservative guesstimate it would be similar to pralay in size
I think P18 would carry these interceptors
• VLSRSAM (50/50)
• Barak 8 (100%)
• Kusha M1 (100%)
• Kusha M2 (100%)
• AAD (100%)
• AD-1 (50/50)
• A lightweight PDV replacement instead of AD-2 if I snort a f**k ton of hopium
Anvesh VLS is quite a bit larger than Brahmos VLS, I would say at least 50% bigger