People's Republic of China (PRC) : News & Discussions

_Anonymous_

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They're still testing in the millions out there & the best part is it's all free of charge. You ought to be visiting China immediately. Why immediately, you ask? Good question. The tests they carry out include sticking an anal probe up yours. Knowing you, it's one of your guilty pleasures & an open secret here too. Do take advantage of this opportunity Paddy.
 
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BMD

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?Why did China send weapons to Russia? Russia's military industry itself is very developed.
Russia has never imported weapons from China before.
Don't know, but Russia has lost an awful lot of equipment. In fact the equipment losses are disproportionate to the deaths even. Many vehicles have been taken out parked whilst soldiers are napping, others have got stuck, or been immobilised but not destroyed, leaving the crew to flee, some have even ran out of fuel believe it or not.
 

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Don't know, but Russia has lost an awful lot of equipment. In fact the equipment losses are disproportionate to the deaths even. Many vehicles have been taken out parked whilst soldiers are napping, others have got stuck, or been immobilised but not destroyed, leaving the crew to flee, some have even ran out of fuel believe it or not.
This kind of estimation is the information balloon released by the United States and Britain.

Russia's loss of equipment is a drop in the bucket for Russia itself. China's ammunition and artillery are not compatible with Russia's, and I don't think China will supply weapons to Russia or Ukraine. Russia has also long denied that it has asked arms assistance from China.

Russia's military production capacity is huge, just because of lack of money and lack of precision guided weapons. Russia is not even as well funded as India.
 

BMD

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This kind of estimation is the information balloon released by the United States and Britain.

Russia's loss of equipment is a drop in the bucket for Russia itself. China's ammunition and artillery are not compatible with Russia's, and I don't think China will supply weapons to Russia or Ukraine. Russia has also long denied that it has asked arms assistance from China.

Russia's military production capacity is huge, just because of lack of money and lack of precision guided weapons. Russia is not even as well funded as India.
Based on the videos I see everyday, I'd say the figures on vehicles are very real. And the figures on Russian deaths may even be conservative.

Who know?

Russia has used a surprising number of more expensive long-range missiles like Iskander-Ms, various land, sea and air-launched cruise missiles and Oniks. It must be costing them a fair whack.
 

Lolwa

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Based on the videos I see everyday, I'd say the figures on vehicles are very real. And the figures on Russian deaths may even be conservative.

Who know?

Russia has used a surprising number of more expensive long-range missiles like Iskander-Ms, various land, sea and air-launched cruise missiles and Oniks. It must be costing them a fair whack.
The Russians have a lot of ego. They won't ever take weapons from the Chinese. And their situation isn't that desperate.
 
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BMD

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The Russians have a lot of ego. They won't ever take weapons from the Chinese. And their situation isn't that desperate.
400 dead per day and 60-70 tanks+APCs lost per day and zero territory gain is pretty desperate.
 

BMD

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Thats an acceptable case for them. Not a desperate situation.
9 years of a lot less caused them to pull out of Afghanistan. In under 10 weeks they've suffered 24,500 dead, in Afghanistan they lost 26,000 by NATO estimates and 14,500 by their own, and nowhere even close to as much equipment/vehicle losses. 9 years of this and well over 1 million Russians will be dead, with a projected 45,000 tanks + >100,000 APCs lost, most of which would have to be built first. 1 years of this will wipe out their entire tank inventory, they'll then have to build >4,000 tanks, >10,000 APCs and 100 fighter jets per year just to actually have tanks, APCs and fighter jets. That is not a fantastic situation. And mass mobilisation scares Putin. If he throws all in, a potential outcome is that he loses all, and his best possible outcome is a Pyrrhic victory.
 

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9 years of a lot less caused them to pull out of Afghanistan. In under 10 weeks they've suffered 24,500 dead, in Afghanistan they lost 26,000 by NATO estimates and 14,500 by their own, and nowhere even close to as much equipment/vehicle losses. 9 years of this and well over 1 million Russians will be dead, with a projected 45,000 tanks + >100,000 APCs lost, most of which would have to be built first. 1 years of this will wipe out their entire tank inventory, they'll then have to build >4,000 tanks, >10,000 APCs and 100 fighter jets per year just to actually have tanks, APCs and fighter jets. That is not a fantastic situation. And mass mobilisation scares Putin. If he throws all in, a potential outcome is that he loses all, and his best possible outcome is a Pyrrhic victory.
Afghanistan and Ukraine are two different things entirely. Afghanistan was a foreign land. Ukraine is Russian backyard they can easily accept 1million dead Russian in exchange for taking Odessa back. A full fledged russian invasion of ukraine will be dimensions more bloody than what's happening presently.