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Are they planning on the same radar design, ie, in the nose, or something else?
Honestly, I don't know but RBE2 XG will get multi fonction antenna and will have to collaborate with SPECTRA so the evolution seems to merge the two system in one, perhaps by steps, after a first step where they are separate...
But Thales said it's a new architecture.
 
Honestly, I don't know but RBE2 XG will get multi fonction antenna and will have to collaborate with SPECTRA so the evolution seems to merge the two system in one, perhaps by steps, after a first step where they are separate...
But Thales said it's a new architecture.

The cheeks, right down to the inlets, may have the largest surface area on the Rafale that can fit a GaN radar. It can eliminate the need for head-on interceptions and can improve multistatic capabilities. The nose radar is too small.

And yes, we already knew it will be a whole new design, hence my disappointment for F4. The IN may end up with F4 instead of F5.
 
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Both J-10C and J-20 shifted to WS-10 sometime back. J-20 has now reportedly shifted to WS-15 engines which allow it to supercruise above Mach 1.5.

The last Chinese fighter to shift on to WS-10 domestic engine was the naval J-15 fighter. So looks like they have reduced their dependence on Russia quite a lot during the last few years.
Majority of their fleet is running on al-31 variants. You have j-10A/B/BSH,j-11A/B and initial model D's. The j-16's run on al-31's too. Su-35 and su-30mkk's too which use al31 variants. The ws-10 is a marketing gimmick atleast for the next two years. Don't even forget the huge chunk of j-7 and j-8 variants that make 1/3 of their AF
 
The cheeks, right down to the inlets, may have the largest surface area on the Rafale that can fit a GaN radar. It can eliminate the need for head-on interceptions and can improve multistatic capabilities. The nose radar is too small.

And yes, we already knew it will be a whole new design, hence my disappointment for F4. The IN may end up with F4 instead of F5.
The APG-85 is intended for batch 17 of the F-35 block 4 which would enter service in mid-2029, if all goes well, barely 6 months before the RBE2 XG.
 
Majority of their fleet is running on al-31 variants. You have j-10A/B/BSH,j-11A/B and initial model D's. The j-16's run on al-31's too. Su-35 and su-30mkk's too which use al31 variants.
With the exception of the early part of the J15, all Chinese flankers use WS10,Another part of the J10C also uses the AL31, but it uses the AL31FN Sep3 engine, which has 1 ton more thrust than India,The early J10A/S are gradually replaced by WS10B
The WS10 is a cousin of the US F110, but has nothing to do with the AL31
 
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Enlighten us how that is possible? In what way is it F110 ?
WS10 was originally derived from the G9 core engine of the mapping and imitation CFM56 civil engine,The G9 core engine is used in the F110 engine.Of course, WS10 references some of the AL31's designs, such as the compressor and the casing
 
Enlighten us how that is possible? In what way is it F110 ?
The french and Americans shared the cfm56 tech for commercial airplane engines the Chinese used that to "reverse" engineer them into mil turbofans. There's a thread on brf. It's an interesting story.
 
J-11's,su-30mkk's,su-35 and your early j-16's all use al-31 and it's variants. 2/3's of your j-10 fleet runs on al-31's.
Like it or not, Chinese have made a breakaway in jet engine tech. They are still decades behind US and Euros. But they have almost caught up with Russia and that says a lot. Most of their current fighters are now powered by their own engines like WS-10 and WS-15.

We must not underestimate our enemy. In fact, we need to take this jet engine tech very seriously and that's exactly what GOI is doing.
 
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J-11's,su-30mkk's,su-35 and your early j-16's all use al-31 and it's variants. 2/3's of your j-10 fleet runs on al-31's.
The J-11A is an assembled production of the SU27, naturally using the AL31, and the J11B uses the WS10A, which is an improved Chinese design
I have not heard of J16 using AL31
 
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Scary sight for any opponent(including ourselves). That's why 4th gen/++ planes still have a place in modern air-combat. 10 missile load is nothing to scoff off, IMO.

PS: This PL-17 missile can only be carried by J-16 and from what I know has 500kms air to air range against AWACS/Tankers/Transport planes etc., which are its primary target. We would need to protect our AWACS from this missile, otherwise we're going to get screwed big time.
 
Scary indeed if you don't have F-35 or F-22 in your air force. Even a flight of SH with a Growler in their flight would have no issue taking it out.
 
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